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After reading chapters from my website, let me know what you think. Crash815 06:07, 31 January 2009 (UTC)
- Hey, great job. I've always wanted to do that but I didn't have the time. I have some of thier stories in my head but nothing this extravegent! You did a really cool job. So how often are you going to come out with episodes? And what will happen if like you figure out that John Ludwig (the actor) is alive? Anyway I think you did a really great job keep up the work! -- LostCloverfield42 Talk 12:36, 4 February 2009 (UTC)
- Yes! I got some feedback from someone who isn't my dad! lol. The list of characters on my user page is just for a visual. The exact background actor/actress that I put for one of my characters isn't necessarily who I watch for when I watch the episode, other than for the background actors who've been named (i.e. Craig, Richard, Jerome, etc.).
- When I first got started, I posted an episode as soon as I finished it. Since I started writing about a year ago (In chapter 102 I mentioned the Tempest Station which was first seen in The Other Woman, so that gives a little idea for when I started writing it) I just kept writing to catch up to where the show was. Once season 5 drew closer, I decided to post only 1 chapter per week at most. I've got 4 chapters written right now (including the 2 that are posted), but if a few episodes in a row focus off-island, then I'm going to run out of story to tell for my guys. Plus, it gives me a chance to go back and change things if redshirts get killed on the show (like in Jughead). Then I can figure out how to work that in appropriately.
- Have you caught up with all of my writing? All of seasons 1-4, the Lost Chronicles, and season 5 (thus far)? Wow! My dad is only just starting the Chronicles and he's been reading them for a while. lol. Though you might not be as busy as my dad. lol. Crash815 00:50, 5 February 2009 (UTC)
When did you made this story and why? And have you already an end twist?--Station7 10:39, October 4, 2009 (UTC)
Are there more people, who made LOST-stories? Could you do this just on internet, without a reason?--Station7 17:12, October 7, 2009 (UTC)
It's just a question, Crash815.--Station7 17:37, October 7, 2009 (UTC)
How did you put those stories on internet? On this page, on your user page. --Station7 17:41, October 7, 2009 (UTC)
How did you came with the idea for those surnames?--Station7 19:55, October 18, 2009 (UTC)
I ask you this before, but who do you put stories and characters on youre page.--Station7 19:22, November 4, 2009 (UTC)
Writing
Hallo, Crash815. I writing to. It's very cool isn't it. I writing for 1 year. It would be cool that you have youre own LOST-story.--Station7 13:04, October 16, 2009 (UTC)
Facsinating background characters
I've also got a fascination with the background characters, so I've enjoyed reading your stories. (I've read everything except the Lost Chronicles so far.) I have my own fictional blog that focuses on just one character that I've created (see my user page), which is supposed to be just another background character amongst the middle section survivors. Mine's not designed to have an entertaining story with any mysteries, it's just something I started writing when I was pondering what it might be like if I was actually one of the survivors who crashed on the island. I did find your stories interesting to read, though, and I thought it was kinda funny how your background characters were discovering all these Dharma stations long before any of the main characters ever did! I also liked the whole concept of Howard's camera capturing all the mysterious visions like Walt in the jungle, Kate's horse, Christian Shephard, etc. I also enjoyed following Ryder's story, seeing a tailie become an Other and watching events from his point of view. My character basically remains oblivious to all the strange island phenomena, so he never sees the smoke monster or visions of dead people, and he doesn't visit any Dharma stations besides the Swan. I figure I can't imagine myself discovering hatches on the island without telling anyone else, but I can easily picture myself blending into the background and remaining clueless about a lot of things, just because that's my personality.
A lot of the established background characters are wide open to interpretation, so there will undoubtedly be differences between how they are portrayed in your stories and my journal entries. For example, I saw that you had Tracy make that comment that people were misunderstanding her friendship with Steve based on just their tents being next to each other, whereas in my version, Tracy really does form a relationship with Steve, despite having a husband and kids in California.
Anyway, I just wanted to drop a note and say I've enjoyed your background character coverage and hope to see more!
Celebok 22:25, 9 February 2009 (UTC)
- I was just looking at your character list and realized I mistakenly called Ryder a tailie. I forgot he was in the front section of the plane! Celebok 07:08, 10 February 2009 (UTC)
Timeline:Post-Island
The enhanced episode tells us Charlie Hume was born two years before Desmond arrived in England to find Daniel's mother. Since this happens three years after the rescue (2008), Charlie must have been born in 2006. JamesyWamesy 03:12, 11 February 2009 (UTC)
Story
That's pretty awesome. Good job with that! -- Sam McPherson T C E 21:19, 15 February 2009 (UTC)
- I agree though could you make all your edits on the story minor edits because your edits really fill up the recent changes. -- Orhan94 Talk Contribs 12:02, 18 February 2009 (UTC)
- Oops sorry about that. My computer gets really slow when I try to edit a full page, so I tend to edit in sections so that it's not so slow. I'll make less minor edits from now on. --Crash815 17:13, 18 February 2009 (UTC)
- There isn't a problem with me making all those subpages to my user page is there? From what you said, it sounded like the only problem was that I was making too many small edits. Am I understanding correctly? --Crash815 17:45, 18 February 2009 (UTC)
- The idea is to check "minor edit" before saving, so users who choose to hide minor edits from appearing in the recent changes don't see a big list of consecutive user page edits. Also, if you plan to be marking lots of minor edits for a while, you can temporarily set "mark all edits minor by default" in your preferences. -- Graft talk contributions 04:34, 15 April 2009 (UTC)
- Yep! Just make sure to uncheck it if it's not a minor edit (in regards to main article pages). :) -- Graft talk contributions 04:46, 15 April 2009 (UTC)
- The idea is to check "minor edit" before saving, so users who choose to hide minor edits from appearing in the recent changes don't see a big list of consecutive user page edits. Also, if you plan to be marking lots of minor edits for a while, you can temporarily set "mark all edits minor by default" in your preferences. -- Graft talk contributions 04:34, 15 April 2009 (UTC)
Character page formats
Hehe, at first I didn't even notice your comment at the beginning of all your character pages, but I started reading one and thought, "Hmm, this sounds a bit familiar..." No, I don't mind! :-) --Celebok 01:43, 19 February 2009 (UTC)
- lol. I didn't think you would. I was more worried about someone being upset that I made so many subpages to my user page. --Crash815 02:48, 19 February 2009 (UTC)
Diary
I was just wondering if you happend to know where a full copy of the diary that Janelle and Chris wrote in. I can only find a link to most of Janelle's, but I can't find any of Chris's. It there a website or anything that has a full copy? -- LostCloverfield42 Talk 17:03, 10 March 2009 (UTC)
Twenty-Six Years -- The Real Oceanic Six!
Dude! I don't normally re-read your stories, but for some reason, something made me go back and re-read "Twenty-Six Years". And it wasn't until my second time reading it that I noticed that the Flight 164 survivors basically lived the Oceanic Six cover story!! They crashed into the water, floated on cushions and debris for over a day, drifted onto the island, eight of them initially survived, one was a six-month pregnant woman who later gave birth on the island, Sean (Boone) died from internal injuries, Julia (Libby) got shot, Reuben (Charlie) died in the Looking Glass (though everyone thought he drowned), and a major event happened on Day 103 that changed their situation! I'm assuming all this was totally intentional! :-) --Celebok 22:01, 13 March 2009 (UTC)
Richard theories
Richard getting eaten by a polar bear. That's just a random made-up theory and innapropriate. Heck, for all we know Ellie could have been eaten by a polar bear or Oliva was eaten by a polar bear. It's just nonsence. Plus, he was not apart of Locke's group and did not die at the barracks. Plus, there's no evidence the mercenary team captured and killed other people, they didn't really except, Alex, Danielle, Karl and those at the Barracks. That's why I removed those unrealistic theories.--Mistertrouble189 19:15, 22 March 2009 (UTC)
- According Lostpedia:Theory policy, illogical theories shouldn't be posted, ie. the polar bear one. As for the mercenaries killing the rest of Locke's group, who else was in it? See Locke's group and you'll see Richard isn't in it and that all people are dead/accounted for besides the red-haired woman whos presumed dead. We never see Richard or confirmation that Richard went for them, so how could he be at Claire's house? The other theories are fine. Just those 3 theories are kinda illogical.--Mistertrouble189 00:00, 23 March 2009 (UTC)
Richard getting eaten by a polar bear?!?! Who the heck wrote a stupid theory like that?! Oh wait... that was me, wasn't it. Heh. Yeah, I was new to Lostpedia when I wrote that. I'm actually surprised it stayed up there as long as it did. But now that it's been removed, it gave me an excuse to add it to my Ridiculous Theories page! :-) --Celebok 01:36, 28 March 2009 (UTC)
Home Sweet Home
Yes, I'm still reading your stories! :-)
This isn't really a complaint or critique, but just a minor thought/observation I had while reading "Home Sweet Home" (5.10). I noticed that you're making a few assumptions about things that may or may not be proven false on the show at some point. For example, it seems that you're suggesting that the time period in which they steal the Via Domus and escape the Island is March 2006. Obviously this is almost two years before the Oceanic Six return on Ajira Flight 316. Yet on the show, during what I'm assuming is the same time flash, the main left-behinders find the canoe with the Ajira bottle in it. At this point, we don't really know what time period they were actually in, but it seems like we may discover that it's the same time period that Ajira 316 crashed in.
Also, I thought it was interesting that you brought Jill into the story. My thinking is, we don't really know anything about Jill or why she was helping Ben. Is she really an Other, or does she have some connection with Ben that has nothing to do with the Others? Your story seems to answer that question when Andrew talks to her, but as far as the show, we really don't know for sure if she knows any other Others or if she'd be inclined to help the Via Domus Six.
Either way, I still enjoy reading your stories. My only concern is what happens if the show ends up revealing something later that contradicts what you've written. (This is the main reason I haven't continued my 815Survivor journal just yet.)
RE: Subpages
Hi, Crash815. An admin will have to do that. -- Sam McPherson T C E 04:59, 5 April 2009 (UTC)
Re: Delete
Done. -- Sam McPherson T C E 01:05, 17 April 2009 (UTC)
The man who shot Larry
So was it supposed to be obvious who the man was who shot Larry in the jungle that Chris recognized from his past? When I first read it, I had no idea who it was and felt like this was a major cliffhanger, until I read your comments at the bottom about Chris talking with Richard Alpert and the fact that it tied in with Chris meeting Alpert as a child. I'm not sure if you intended for the reader to make this connection right away, but I only did so when I read those comments afterwards. --Celebok 02:40, 27 April 2009 (UTC)
My Survivors: Elliott Maslow
Yeah, I am aware that i dont have Elliott Maslow as part of my survivors. I'm going though a process of redoing all of my survivors and I'm trying to include all the named survivors. I'm not sure if i want elliott and lisa in my group because im trying to only use actual seen background memebers. So I'm completely sure what I'm gonna do. -- LostCloverfield42 Talk 14:49, 29 April 2009 (UTC)
My Survivors
Thanks for commenting on my table. I wasn't completely finnished with it yet thought ... guess I should have left it on my sandbox page. Oh well. But good news is that it's mostly completed now. I expanded on my character backstories and such. I'm still debating on whether or not I should put the main characters and Rose and them on there. What do you think? Should I? I'm not completely sure. Well I just wanted to let you know what I did. Oh, and by the way I like all of your episodes, really cool, although, I am really sad that you decided to kill Craig. You should use some of the island's magical healing powers to bring him back :) Anyway, great job on your writings. -- LostCloverfield42 Talk 02:49, 2 May 2009 (UTC)
- Regarding my deceased tailies, I'm pretty sure that I'm correct on that. On Day 3 Libby states to Ana Lucia "It's Donald, his leg. The infection is getting worse. He'll be the 4th to go." This implys that 3 survivors have died on or before day 3 at them time Libby talks to Ana. My second unknown tailie must have died within that time period. All my page says is that he must have died within 3 days of the crash. So he did die before Libby told Ana about Donald, no error there.
- As for Larry, Chris, and Janelle, semi-goof on my part. There are some deuterocanonical/expanded universe things that I really like. For example, I really Like Janelle's Diary. Then there are some that I don't like. I'm not a fan of Chris's diary, because it seems to go against the show a bit more. Like, the whole things about Steve being buried in the graveyard, I don't buy it. So there are somethings that I really like, and others I don't. Where I got my Chris and Larry friendship thing from was a scene in Exodus, Part 2. When Locke has his flashback, actors Dane Justman and Ben Merdock, Larry and Chris respectivly, are standing at the boarding counter together. Their action seem as if they are traveling together. I base all of my characters off of what they do in show. I guess I didn't think about the whole Larry hits on Janelle, Larry and Chris friends, Chris doesn't know Janelle thing. I'll have to consider revision on that. But thanks for your input it's really valuable. -- LostCloverfield42 Talk 03:44, 2 May 2009 (UTC)
- Oh, gosh, haha, my bad. I apologize. Yeah, I gotta change that. Thanks!-- LostCloverfield42 Talk 03:50, 2 May 2009 (UTC)
- Well for Faye Murphy, I completely made up that name, couldn't figure out a name to give her, so that name might change in the future. But on Page 70 in Endangered Species, Faith is helping some survivors, including George, go through some luggage. There a woman with reddish-brown hair gives Faith some shoes.
- Oh, gosh, haha, my bad. I apologize. Yeah, I gotta change that. Thanks!-- LostCloverfield42 Talk 03:50, 2 May 2009 (UTC)
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"Here." One of the other helpers, an older woman with reddish brown hair, held out a paid of white Keds. "It looks like you need these. They should be about your size, I think." ... While the red-haired woman and a couple of others stayed behind to continue sorting through the luggage, Faith, George, Boone, and Hurley headed for the tree line. | ” |
- It never tells her name and I can't think of any other person that it could be that we know, so I decided that I would make it Faye. As for Richard and Craig, at first they were not aware about their connection. In "S.O.S.", before Bernard runs up to Richard, Craig, and Jerome, the trio was talking about their lives before the crash. Craig mentions his sister Roxanne and then Richard remembers a Roxanne he went to school with and then they talk about it. So to answer you question, No. Richard and Craig did not know each other before the crash, Richard only knew Roxanne, and even then he did not know her very well.
And as for Robert D. West, that is one of the many kinks that I'm currently trying to figure out. For my list of survivors, I wanted background actors that have been on the show for a very long time, that way there would be more observations I could make and more stories I could form. I had already had a list of actors/actresses that I wanted. Unfortunately the characters of Elliott Maslow and Robert D. West did not make the cut. The Lisa Gellhorn that I have shares nothing in common with Lisa Gellhorn from Lost:Via Domus besides her name. So there are certain things that are missing from my stories, but I hope that I am able to re-tool it so that I can include all of the characters and actors that I want. So long story short, yes, I did intentionally leave Robert off of my list, but I hope to somehow get him into my characters.
Oh, I also wanted to say what you did with Elliott's story in 'The Inconstant' was great. It made perfect sense, so good job.-- LostCloverfield42 Talk 23:56, 2 May 2009 (UTC)
- It never tells her name and I can't think of any other person that it could be that we know, so I decided that I would make it Faye. As for Richard and Craig, at first they were not aware about their connection. In "S.O.S.", before Bernard runs up to Richard, Craig, and Jerome, the trio was talking about their lives before the crash. Craig mentions his sister Roxanne and then Richard remembers a Roxanne he went to school with and then they talk about it. So to answer you question, No. Richard and Craig did not know each other before the crash, Richard only knew Roxanne, and even then he did not know her very well.
Fanon
Hey, great stuff, but please add fanon alerts to the articles about your series.Thanks, -- Roobydo talk contribs 23:24, 2 May 2009 (UTC)
Lara no longer theory
Good point!--Jim in Georgia Contribs Talk 23:26, 20 May 2009 (UTC)
Origin of Howard's photo
So Howard effectively gives the photo of his parents to himself as a baby, so it ends up in his possession as an adult so he can take it back to the island to give to himself again? Just like the Richard-Locke compass paradox? Heh. --Celebok 05:44, 21 May 2009 (UTC)
The Phoenix Project (SPOILER FOR THOSE WHO HAVEN'T READ 5.24)
WHOAH!!! Andrew's non-aging was caused by the Phoenix Project?? Didn't see that one coming! So the Phoenix Project is like some immortality experiment or something? --Celebok 02:16, 23 May 2009 (UTC)
Locke and Ajira 316
Really? I just have to laugh... Well, I don't like edit wars, so if they keep trying to add him, I'll just ask some admin to lock the page and open a discussion or poll to decide... --Metalpotato - Talk - Contributions - ✉ 15:18, 24 May 2009 (UTC)
- I think they can't see the word "survivor". Any way, maybe in season 6 some events will make us think differently about people on board every plane and we'll have to rename pages to "passengers" or something like that. I'm just speculating around with the people in coffins and all that... --Metalpotato - Talk - Contributions - ✉ 15:25, 24 May 2009 (UTC)
Losties in the Second Time Shift
I was just thinking, I know you mentioned before that you've gone back and made minor edits to your stories after the show has revealed new information. "Follow the Leader" revealed that the 2nd time shift (in which Richard gave Locke the compass by the fallen plane) was in 2007. Your "Just Survive" (5.02) chapter shows the Losties noticing that their camp is back and feeling relieved. I would think that they would also notice that their camp has suffered from three years of decay, as we've seen on the show what the camp looks like in 2007. Just a thought. I'm finally working on new ideas for my 815Survivor journal, now that the show has revealed the fate (or lack thereof) of the remaining survivors. --Celebok 16:08, 25 May 2009 (UTC)
Ah, I see your edit now. I probably would've noted the fact that most of the structures were broken and partially collapsed, but what you wrote is vague and brief enough that the details don't really matter, and it doesn't affect the rest of the scene. --Celebok 08:55, 27 May 2009 (UTC)
Tuck Everlasting
I really enjoyed reading about Andrew's backstory and seeing all the various mysteries about him that were set up throughout the season come together. How long ago did you come up with the entire story of Andrew; his origins, how he got to the island, abducted by Dharma, the Phoenix Project, and his off-island adventures? Anyway, nice how you aligned your story with the end of the season in both timelines. I was confused about the ending at first, because I couldn't remember when Marc shot Tyson, and I had to go back and dig through your pages to find it. I think the intended shock at the end would've been more powerful if you'd provided some kind of reminder of Marc's encounter with Tyson at some point toward the end, since it happened so long ago and at a time when I had no reason to think Tyson was a significant character. But anyway, I'll certainly look forward to seeing where you take your characters in the final season! My journal ideas are continuing to come together, but I still have a few logistical kinks to work out before I finalize where I want my character to go. Hopefully I'll be ready to start posting entries within a few weeks. --Celebok 20:17, 2 June 2009 (UTC)
RE:Text format
Hey I think I fixed the problem
-- CTS Talk Contribs 18:31, 6 June 2009 (UTC)
RE:Dexter Stubbs?
Hey! Thanks for the comment! I try to pair those expanded universe/duetrocanon backgrounders with actual extras on the show according to physical descriptions. I was able to do this with some survivors. Do you think Dexter matches with anyone?--Mistertrouble189 04:34, 14 July 2009 (UTC)
Finishing Touches
Yo dude, I haven read your actual episodes, but I want to and I have pretty much read your summary page. This is crazy, and I won't be suprised if one of the directors of LOST saw your episodes and planned to write a series on your stuff. I just had a worry about something. Once Season six/the show is over, all the questions will be answered. The thing is...is that some things that you have answered, like little things, may be answered in the final season, and I was wondering how you are planning on fixing up the past episodes if this happens. I'm pretty sure you'll think of something though. Hope to read all the episodes before the final season.--The Lucky11
BOAT CHRONICLES!!!
Hey, I finally started reading your Boat Chronicles -- I just read the first four chapters yesterday. It seems like it's pretty much all character development thus far, but I'm still interested in reading about what happens. I'm really having to refresh my memory of who all your existing characters are and their relation to each other! Fortunately I remembered enough of the Sam/Nathan/Sonya story to follow those characters, but I think I need to review Oscar's story. (As I did before, I'm reading printouts of your stories while I'm away from a computer, so I can't look things up on the spot.) Anyway, I'm looking forward to reading more of your Boat Chronicles and Ajira Chronicles as you post them, and it's a great way to pass the time while waiting for Season 6! --Celebok 15:59, September 9, 2009 (UTC)
Heh, thanks for the character summaries! They definitely help! :-) --Celebok 16:03, September 10, 2009 (UTC)
I like that titles and personages. really really cool. The first i saw it, I thought cool. I'm writing to but this is awesome, really awesome. No more words.--Station7 20:17, September 12, 2009 (UTC)
Also very good humor about that for example 1564 words or 2331 words. Very very good humor.--Station7 20:28, September 12, 2009 (UTC)
Mayhew, Susan, Flight 164, etc.
When I read your stories, I generally like to read at least two chapters at a time, since they're so short (I try to have the right amount to read while I'm eating lunch). So I just now read chapters 5 and 6. I'm still having some trouble remembering the significance of certain characters. Like, I know that your recap at the beginning stated that Susan was the pregnant woman from Flight 164, but I didn't remember what else she did in your stories or who her child was. Your family tree page showed that Jessica was Susan's daughter (and therefore Mayhew's daughter), but I couldn't figure out who Jessica was (I couldn't find any info on her from your links). So even if this latest chapter revealed that Mayhew's daughter is a character I might've met before, I have no idea who it is.
One thing that's kinda sad about reading the Boat Chronicles is that I already know what eventually happens to most of these characters! Like, Jay Brandon is on the Kahana because he hopes to find his cousin on the island, but I already know from The Constant that he never even makes it to the island alive! Oh well, it's still fun to read. --Celebok 22:21, September 14, 2009 (UTC)
Ah, thanks for the Susan and Jessica clarifications. I only vaguely remember those things happening. Yeah, I would imagine it's pretty crazy and overwhelming to keep track of that many characters! I don't know how you do it! :-)
Oh, I almost forgot... in your Mayhew flashback where he abandoned pregnant Susan... did you literally copy the dialog from Claire and Thomas's conversation? I was reading it and thinking, this sure sounds familiar! Hehe. --Celebok 02:35, September 15, 2009 (UTC)
Thank you for your answer.--Station7 16:28, September 18, 2009 (UTC)
All your story's are funny, cool and incredible good. The one is beter than the other one, but they are all good on there on way.--Station7 19:40, September 20, 2009 (UTC)
The Oscars
Okay, I finally got caught up through "Game Over". And I couldn't remember who Oscar Talbot was, so I had to look it up on Lostpedia. I also looked up Oscar Wolfe while I was at it, only to find that Lostpedia doesn't give any more information than you do in your stories. So anyway, after that, I'm still going, "Huh?!" at the ending of B08.
Oh, and I thought I'd also let you know that I decided to start rereading your Season 5 stories! I realized that there was just too much stuff from there that I just wasn't remembering, too many characters to keep track of, plus I'm just generally bored waiting for Season 6, so I figured rereading your stuff would be an interesting way to pass the time. (I'm also rewatching the actual show's Season 5 in parallel.) I started a couple of weeks ago, and I've done the first ten chapters so far. It's interesting reading the earlier parts of Season 5, and how things make a little more sense the second time around, like the mystery of Andrew's blood, Marc's history with the Others, the people who were on Flight 164, etc. And the whole thing where Susan talks about her boyfriend who abandoned her after getting her pregnant, now that I know that it was Mayhew. So thanks again for providing this extra entertainment during the off-season! --Celebok 20:04, September 22, 2009 (UTC)
The Call and Jealousy
Somehow I find it hard to imagine that Charles Widmore, being the big corporate CEO that he is, would contact that many potential recruits himself, or that the Kahana recruiting line would go directly to Widmore. Seems more likely that he'd have Naomi or Abaddon take care of that (for the recruits who have personal reasons for going on the mission), and otherwise have Keamy recruit his own soldiers, and have Captain Gault recruit his own boat crew. I'm not saying that Widmore couldn't speak to new recruits, and you're free to write this how you want, but it's just something I was thinking as I was reading it.
I like how you tied in with the scene where Gault beats up his men for trying to take the Zodiac and explained their motivations for wanting to take the Zodiac to the Island. I also like how you explained Dawn hugging a guy at the New Year's Eve party -- something I probably wouldn't have remembered if I hadn't re-read that story recently! :-) --Celebok 22:46, September 28, 2009 (UTC)
Thanks
Thanks Crash815, I like it. This is totally awesome.--Station7 14:35, October 15, 2009 (UTC)
Re: Behind???
Actually, I finished reading your Boat Chronicles a few days ago, but I just never got around to commenting. There were a few chapters in there where I didn't really have any comments. I meant to comment on the ones I read this week, but then I got distracted. I don't remember at the moment what I wanted to say... probably something to do with Oscar and Tyson. Well, I'll have to go back and browse through those chapters to remember what I wanted to say. I'm pretty tired right now. --Celebok 08:46, October 16, 2009 (UTC)
Oscar, I am your father...
Okay, that was a pretty good twist with Tyson being Oscar's father, and Oscar finding out by going to Miami and seeing himself as a baby. Except I had the same problem with this finale that I did with your Season 5 finale, in that I didn't remember much about Tyson, so the shock wasn't as effective on me as you probably meant it to be. But I later read through Tyson's profile for a recap of all the things he's done, so I was able to see what an evil character he is. Are you planning to continue with the story arc of Oscar planning to kill Tyson? Or will that have to depend on what happens on the show in Season 6? (I know Oscar is still in 1977.)
There's one piece of the dialog that I think could've been written better. Oscar's mom seems a little too quick to believe that Oscar is her son from the future. It just seems way too outrageous for her to believe just because he tells her, and then she immediately believes what he tells her about Tyson's work. I think it would make more sense if Oscar offered her some proof, like showing her a birthmark that no one outside the family would know about.
Oh, and for some reason the way you wrote Jay's death made me laugh -- just how it got more and more intense, and then suddenly he was dead and that was it. Heh.
Okay, and I see you already started posting the Ajira Chronicles, so I still got some catching up to do! --Celebok 16:56, October 19, 2009 (UTC)
"Ajira" Chronicles?
Hey, so I've read the first four chapters of Ajira Chronicles, and the first question on my mind is... how exactly is this "Ajira" Chronicles? Aside from the 4th chapter, they seem to all take place long before Flight 316, and some seem to focus on characters who weren't even on Flight 316. Am I confused about something or missing the point? --Celebok 20:39, October 28, 2009 (UTC)
Ah, okay, it makes sense after you've explained it. The title just initially gave me a slightly wrong impression of what it was going to be about. And I agree, at least it's a better title than "Found Chronicles". :-) --Celebok 06:33, October 29, 2009 (UTC)
Confusing Connections
I'm probably just not remembering a lot of the details -- like I've said, it's hard to keep track of all these characters and the connections between them. So I've got some questions after reading "You've Got Mail":
- Did we already learn before that Jenna went to the same university as Craig and Larry and that she knew them?
- How and why did Dexter seek out Jenna and ask her to deliver those four messages? And why was Dexter in Sydney?
- I sort of remember that Dexter and Janelle found out they were brother and sister much later after the crash (Season 5, I think?), but I don't remember the story of how they got separated when they were younger. It appears from this story that both of their parents knew?
- Who is Ethan Ward? How does he know Dexter? And why does he say, "There was no vacation... Daisy went with him..."?
- How did Dexter's mom know Jenna? How did she know Jay??
Okay, I think that's enough questions for now! Hehe. --Celebok 17:23, November 6, 2009 (UTC)
Oh, never mind about the Jay question. I forgot he and Dexter were cousins. Hehe. --Celebok 20:27, November 6, 2009 (UTC)
- Thanks for the answers to my questions. The main reason I have questions like these is that I just don't remember what facts you've already revealed and what facts are being revealed for the first time. Like, I didn't know if Jenna knowing Craig and Larry was a new revelation in this story, or if it was old news that I just forgot. Likewise, I wasn't sure if Dexter visiting Jenna in Sydney was something I'd already seen and was supposed to make a connection, or if you were presenting a new mystery that you intend to explain later. I'm basically just trying to understand how I'm supposed to be reacting to these facts that you're revealing. It's kind of like when my friend and I were watching Season 5 of Lost, he said, "Wait, Jack and Claire are brother and sister??!" and I was like, "Uh... we already learned that back in Season 3." Also, I'm totally not familiar with any of the Lost novels, so I probably need some help with some of the facts from there. That's why I had no idea that Dexter and Jenna knew each other in high school, or that Jenna wasn't just a character that you made up for Nathan's story. Anyway, I guess I'm good for now with your latest explanations, but I'll be sure to ask more questions as I come up with them. --Celebok 20:05, November 7, 2009 (UTC)
love your stories
I still love your stories, maybe if you had the time you could read my stories. Here's the link:http://losthejourney.wikia.com/wiki/LostTheJourney_Wiki. Good luck, Crash815!--Station7 19:25, November 14, 2009 (UTC)
More questions!!
- How many times has Abaddon actually appeared at Kristi's window? Is he actually trying to kill her, or is he just trying to scare her into keeping quiet about the Island? Or is this still a mystery?
- Have we already learned before that the Dobson brothers are Mitch's cousins?
- Who is the Emily that calls Christine, and how do they know each other?
- I'm still confused as to why Dexter chose Jenna to deliver those letters. Why not deliver them himself just before boarding Flight 316? Or mail them, if he didn't want to deliver them in person?
I keep thinking I had more questions, but that's all I can think of for now. --Celebok 00:22, November 18, 2009 (UTC)
Thanks again for those clarifications. I remembered that Abaddon had shot at Kristi through her window before, but I couldn't really remember the details of that encounter, so I wasn't sure if the scenes from this recent episode included a recap of that same incident, or if they were additional encounters with Abaddon.
Oh, I just now remembered my other question. What exactly were Eli and Zander doing spying on Verena in that flashback of Kristi's dream? --Celebok 04:56, November 18, 2009 (UTC)
- Hmm, well, I had to go back and look at those particular scenes to see what you're talking about, even though I've read all of your Season 5 stories twice. I think the problem is that each of those scenes by themselves seemed a bit confusing, but didn't seem significant enough to remember to the point of connecting them later. Actually, in this case, I do remember that Hunter had made a promise to Verena to see her on a certain date, and I remember reading those other scenes you mentioned that referenced this fact, but I didn't remember that it was Zander who actually delivered the message to Verena. So that's the main reason why I had no clue why Zander and Eli would be looking for Verena. --Celebok 18:22, November 18, 2009 (UTC)
A12 cuts off
Yesterday I was about to copy and paste the text of A11 and A12 into a Word document so I could print it and read it during lunch, but then I noticed that A12 seems to be cut off at the end, like it just ends mid-sentence. Is that a mistake? I haven't actually read it yet to know what's happening there. --Celebok 19:44, November 21, 2009 (UTC)
Huh, weird, your chapter was that long?? Oh well, glad you were able to fix it. The timing of you posting your finale works out for me, since I probably wouldn't have time to read it over the Thanksgiving weekend anyway. It'll give me something to look forward to when I have to go back to work on Monday! Hehe. --Celebok 18:08, November 23, 2009 (UTC)
A11-A13
"Photograph": This was pretty interesting. It makes me wonder about the possibility of any DHARMA people on the Island in 1977 who left the Island before the Purge, then several years later still had a copy of the 1977 recruits photo and recognized that Jack, Kate and Hurley of the Oceanic Six were the same ones in that photo! But anyway, this was a pretty interesting twist on providing a means of people knowing that their loved ones are still alive on the Island -- a nice alternative to all those twin dreams.
"Sibling Rivalry": So, do Amon and Eddie happen to have grandparents named Abraham and Sarah, and a sister-in-law named Leah? :-) Oh, and that was pretty weird that Eddie had a dream about Amon talking about his dream about Eddie. Oh, and Jason Ward is Daisy's brother, right? Was his fate a mystery until now, or did we already know that he died right after the crash? I remember wondering about that before.
"Two Pieces": Now this certainly went in some pretty wild directions! I didn't know Sam and Talbot were on Flight 316! Or that Talbot has been to the Island before! I'll have to think about this a bit to come up with some theories! And I'm pretty confused about these "two pieces" of some formula that Sam apparently knows about that Talbot is looking for. And of course, you got the crazy connection of Sam's dad being Todd from Flight 164! This all seems to put a different light on Sam and his earlier quest to find Flight 815!
Oh, and I noticed your "Previously on LOST"'s are a lot more thorough now. They really help a lot! :-) --Celebok 03:34, November 24, 2009 (UTC)
- Yeah, it took a while for me to notice the whole Biblical names reference. At first I noticed that their parents were named Issac and Rebecca, but I didn't think about it beyond that, until further in the story I noticed that Amon's wife's name was Rachel, then I was like, "Wait a minute..." and then I remembered that their sons' names were Joseph and Benjamin, and that's when it finally clicked! :-) Did you have that planned since the very beginning when you introduced Amon's story?
- I guess I'll have to go back and review everything I know about Oscar Talbot from Find815. I'd kinda forgotten about that whole story. Oh, and I totally didn't catch the Todd-Kate parallel... but that might just be because Kate is my least favorite character on LOST. :-)
--Celebok 21:53, November 24, 2009 (UTC)
- TYSON. --Celebok 22:47, November 27, 2009 (UTC)
- Hehe, I don't know what about Tyson. It was just a thought that I had for some reason. :-) Like, I was going to try to figure out what Oscar Talbot's connection to the Island might be, then I realized that Tyson is another evil character who also has a lot of unanswered questions, and I was looking at your character list and saw your note about Tyson not having a picture because he's a character we already know. And the fact that Tyson was seen off the Island in the mid-90's and showed up on the Island again in 2007/2008 after Ajira 316 crashed... and the fact that Talbot didn't want to be seen by Marc and Andrew when they boarded -- two characters who had a history with the Phoenix Project... I don't know, just some random thoughts that popped into my head. ;-) --Celebok 22:37, November 28, 2009 (UTC)
Are we concurrents?
Are we concurrents? I write a LOST - story to, you to. Make that us concurrents? --Station7 08:02, November 27, 2009 (UTC)
Are you made at me that I'm writing a LOST -story to or not?--Station7 18:42, November 28, 2009 (UTC)
Thanks, that's the only thing I wanna know. We both use humor in our story's.--Station7 18:48, November 28, 2009 (UTC)
Some well, some not
Some pages from you, can't lostpedia except like Diane Ward or Robert West. Why? Because Sam Thomas could it well except.--Station7 19:07, November 28, 2009 (UTC)
I have that to, like Henry Gale, Jack, Hurley, Ben etc. I think sometimes that we actually made a own page for that, but I think that the admins that don't like. Because of our own story.--Station7 19:44, November 28, 2009 (UTC)
When?
I write my stories sometimes 1 part in the morning, 2 parts in the midday/night my stories. When do you write your stories? --Station7 21:52, November 28, 2009 (UTC)
... In Time?
What word has to be before In Time? Lost4ever in Time or Lost In Time?--Station7 16:59, November 29, 2009 (UTC)
My stories
Do you read my stories? I read your stories when I have the time. Or do you have it to busy for that? It's just a question. --Station7 19:09, November 29, 2009 (UTC)
I like that and you could making an accountant on the site!--Station7 20:07, November 29, 2009 (UTC)
And if you have questions to me, ask them or edit them on the pagesi f you're on the site.--Station7 20:18, November 29, 2009 (UTC)
TYSON!
Woooooooooooooooooooo!!!!! I was right!!! :-) (-: :-) The funny thing is, I was totally guessing about Tyson before! Hehe. Of course, now this makes me wonder what Tyson was doing on the Christiane I and how (and if) it fits in with his Phoenix Project objectives. Overall, I thought this AC finale was really good, and I like how you showed what happened after your S5 cliffhanger. I have to admit, when I read the first few chapters in AC a couple of months ago, I wasn't all that thrilled about reading what seemed like just off-island filler stories, but it all came together nicely at the end and provided a nice lead-in to Season 6. By the way, Jacob didn't touch Sam, did he? ;-) Oh, and I thought it was pretty funny that Verena was totally caught off guard when Jed asked her why she was flying to Guam. Like, "oh crap, I hadn't thought of that!" :-) --Celebok 23:42, November 30, 2009 (UTC)
Fans
Do you have many fans, Crash815? I have fans, I would say 10 fans. This is not to have a HUGE ego from who has the most fans, it's just a question.--Station7 20:52, December 3, 2009 (UTC)
Re: The rest of the hiatus
I think it's great that you're doing minor character bios, and I think it'll help me become more familiar with all these characters and their connections with other characters so that I won't be as confused anymore... hopefully! But I'm wondering if your user blog is really the best place to post them. A lot of Lostpedia users read those blogs, but I get the feeling that not very many of them read your stories. (The only people that seem to be commenting on them these days are myself and Station7.) Unless you don't mind constantly explaining to people who have no idea what you're posting or why, especially since new people are joining all the time. Sure, you could put a brief explanation at the beginning of every entry, but it still seems like this is a kind of thing that's only meaningful to people who have already been following your stories. Just something to consider. --Celebok 10:17, December 5, 2009 (UTC)
- I agree not many people are aware of that you make stories. Even they are good, not evrybody understand that. So, they said to me that I had to use an own wiki for maybe you to? At some point, it maybe is going to annoying them.
The above things has nothing to do with your story, just the critism people on this site Crash815. So don't take the wrong way.--Station7 17:26, December 5, 2009 (UTC)
Wiki?
Crash815, why do you use you user page for this? Is it not better if you use your own wiki for that. Not that it's a bad point or so, but is that not better. I'm just curious with you think about that.--Station7 21:35, December 6, 2009 (UTC)
Re: Re: The rest of the hiatus
Cool, that works. And I like how you linked them to the Lostpedia pages so I can see where they appeared in the Lost universe. Weird, I never heard about that Bob Jones message stuff on the ABC website. I remember when those characters appeared toward the end of your Season 5, I was like, "Huh? Who are these guys??" --Celebok 22:45, December 7, 2009 (UTC)
- I just realized, the picture you used for Bob is of the same extra whose picture I used for my 815Survivor icon! I didn't officially intend for my Bill character to be associated with that extra, though. I just picked it because it was a picture of a random person standing at the survivors' camp, and you can't really tell who it is when shrunk down to 100x100 pixels. I'm not trying to suggest any Bob=Bill theories or anything. ;-) --Celebok 23:52, December 7, 2009 (UTC)
- Hahaha! Yeah, the thought of our stories intersecting has crossed my mind before, but then I quickly realized that we already have too many contradictions, such as Tracy and Steve forming a relationship in my version, but being just friends in yours, or the fact that Steve makes it back to the beach in your story, but is never heard from after joining Locke's group in my story. The main problem was that I didn't even discover your stories until we'd both already written through most of Season 4, so I'd pretty much filled in my own gaps. I was actually thinking of creating a page that lists all of the contradictions between my Lost universe and yours! --Celebok 08:35, December 8, 2009 (UTC)
- Haha, true, our stories really diverged significantly during Season 5. But now that I think about it, it would've basically required a bunch of minor changes to my story to be consistent with yours -- not killing Craig in the flaming arrow attack, having Jack already aware that some people made it off the island, having Bill recognize the Oceanic 815 survivors in the back of Ajira 316, etc. But then I'd run into other weird scenarios like the fact that Bill never talks to any of your characters. Basically it would've had to be a joint effort from the beginning to make it work. --Celebok 20:10, December 8, 2009 (UTC)
- Hmm, I don't really have any specific characters in mind, as in, anyone whose background I've really been wondering about for a long time. Usually it's more like, I'll be reading one of your stories, and a character is mentioned, and I'm thinking, "Who was that again?" So it really depends on which characters would be most helpful to be reminded about in your upcoming chapters. --Celebok 22:13, December 14, 2009 (UTC)
Nancy Jones and Bob Jones
What are those two from each other? Are they cousins? Niece and nephew?--Station7 15:09, December 8, 2009 (UTC)
Ironically in my story are those characters nice and nehpew, Bob Crash and Nancy Glass. Because of that Nancy's mother Diana Rumble is the sister of Patrick Rumble, the father of Bob Crash.--Station7 22:38, December 8, 2009 (UTC)
Immortality
Just to let you know, I removed the whole bit about Richard being immortal from his theory page entirely, because it was obviously confusing people. Now it just says that he is ageless, but can still be killed. Trust me, that means the same thing as immortal, but since the term is misleading people, I decided it would be best if it were just removed.
Trust me, I am well aware of the definition of "immortal," but the vagueness of it is exactly why you can never just go by the dictionary definition of a word; you have to also know its connotation, and sometimes even its history. The word "immortal" was used to distinguish the gods from mankind. The gods were not subject to age and death like people (mortals), thus they were referred to as immortal (literally "not mortal"). However, the gods could still be killed (and they very often were). So that has always been the meaning of the word. Over time, it evolved additional meanings as well (e.g. our immortal souls, which live on after death), but the original definition is still appropriate.
I'm sorry for the long-winded message, I just wanted to make sure you knew where I was coming from, and that I really wasn't just spouting hot air or being difficult. But again, I changed the terminology on the Alpert page in order to avoid this confusion altogether. Cheers, Managerpants Contribs Talk 16:58, December 9, 2009 (UTC)
Season 6 chapters?
I'm wondering, how is it that you're already able to come up with a list of chapters for Season 6, which characters appear, etc., when we have no idea where Season 6 on the show is going to go? (Or do you know something that I don't?) --Celebok 21:32, December 9, 2009 (UTC)
- Ah, okay. So, has your approach throughout your entire series always been to focus primarily on the characters' flashback stories, and simply plug them into whatever is going on in the show's timeline? I mean, obviously you have ongoing story elements on the island for certain characters, like Howard's camera capturing other people's visions, or Amon repeatedly going back to be interviewed by the Others, but a lot of characters seem to be mostly observers on the island, but each have their own complicated backstories. I pretty much took the opposite approach with Bill; I focused entirely on what he does on the island, and only mention things about his past when it's relevant to how he handles things in the present. But then again, that's what led to the biggest complaint about my journal entries, that it's just a recap of what we've seen on the show from the point of view of a character people don't care about. But then, I did establish early on that my purpose in writing the journal wasn't to entertain people. Anyway, I'm rambling now. --Celebok 10:03, December 10, 2009 (UTC)
