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Contents 1 The Number 23 2 Reunions 3 Ulysses 4 Separation 5 Lighthouse 6 Spam 7 Man in Black

The Number 23

hey. please check out my new blog. I think you will like it. love,--Sawyerslawyer 05:28, February 27, 2012 (UTC)

Sure, I'll read it. --- Balk Of Fame ♪ talk 05:38, February 29, 2012 (UTC)

Reunions

Hey, good point on Sayid and Ben; sorry for being slow with the page as I'm re-watching the series and making notes. What do you think so far? --stu4488 00:26, August 6, 2012 (UTC)

It's coming along well! One thing though - take a look at any page's code to see how we insert images. We avoid using the default File/thumbnail method because it sticks usernames in the article. We also don't put file credits in captions because we can do that on the image's own page.

So the "Exodus, Part 3" image, for example, should use this code:

{{I|I=Season_1.jpg|w=200|a=right|c=Sayid and Charlie return Aaron to Claire.{{crossref|1x25}}}}

--- Balk Of Fame ♪ talk 09:41, August 6, 2012 (UTC)

Can do. Thanks!

--stu4488 00:17, August 7, 2012 (UTC)

Ulysses

yo. why so deadset against reincarnation in Ulysses?--Kmkmiller (talk) 00:14, September 1, 2012 (UTC)

It doesn't really seem relevant. I'm sure Ulysses shares dozens of themes with Lost, but the link would have to be pretty strong to be worth mentioning. In particular, why mention Molly calling it ""Met Him Pike Hoses"? Is there some connection there that I'm missing? --- Balk Of Fame ♪ talk 00:41, September 1, 2012 (UTC)

Re: "Met Him Pike Hoses" that's just fun trivia. Re: Re-incarnation, it's a topic that stands out (Caton-Ranier, the episode "Outlaws", etc.). It is clearly relevant to LOST. And while most people do know Ulysses is based on the Odyssey, it is not well known that re-incarnation is in Ulysses. And, indeed, I think a shared theme (especially one as idiosyncratic and distinctive as re-incarnation) is MORE relevant than Fionnula's history with the text. Because Fionnula's acting history as it relates to Ulysses has nothing to do with LOST. Re-incarnation does.--Kmkmiller (talk) 01:07, September 1, 2012 (UTC)

Reincarnation, though mentioned a couple times on Lost, wasn't a huge theme - we don't even have a separate article for it - and I'm not sure how large a theme it is in Ulysses either. On the other hand, though I haven't read it, I'm fairly confident that Ulysses also touches on leadership, religion, free will, relationships, parent issues, redemption... themes that are much bigger in Lost and that actually appear in this episode, but that connection still wouldn't be notable. It wouldn't even qualify as coincidence. Now, if Leopold and Molly had a conversation about a moving island or putting shoes on a corpse that might be an interesting connection. --- Balk Of Fame ♪ talk 01:40, September 1, 2012 (UTC)

leadership, religion, free will, relationships, parent issues, redemption are themes in all texts. What I mean is I can go get 20 books off the shelf right now and connect them to LOST with those kinds of themes. In which case, choosing to have Ben reading Ulysses is arbitrary. Might as well be Hamlet if all you're trying to do is build a connection on those themes. (and I wouldn't be surprised if Fionulla Flanagan was in a production of Hamlet too!) Reincarnation is a very specific thing that links LOST to Ulysses and very very few other texts have it. Anyway, thanks for letting me state my case. I see the FAQ advises to not make Jackface and just let it go. So I will do that. --Kmkmiller (talk) 01:58, September 1, 2012 (UTC)

Separation

Hello there, again,

I was listening to a Lost podcast (either After Lost or Looking Back at LOST) and it mentioned something about separation, and, looking back, off the top of my head I came up with at least 25 instances of separation. I know I'm still working on the reunion page (and I've been revising the Revenge page, too) Any chance I could add a Separation page to my list? Stay LOST!

--stu4488 19:17, October 25, 2012 (UTC)

Yeah, separation sounds like a good theme for an article. We need to carefully distinguish it from isolation though. I suppose isolation is separation from everyone or everything, while "separation" is separation between two specific things? Maybe we can come up with a better name for it.

"Division"? Sounds too much like conflict. Partition? Estrangement? Schism? --- Balk Of Fame ♪ talk 05:00, October 26, 2012 (UTC)

Good point; how about "Alienation?" --stu4488 00:57, October 27, 2012 (UTC)

On second thought, maybe I've misunderstood what you mean by "separation." What do you mean by it? --- Balk Of Fame ♪ talk 11:46, October 27, 2012 (UTC)

Here are a couple of examples: Jack, Kate and Sawyer when Jack is forced to stay in Hydra Station and Kate and Sawyer are in the bear cages (A Tale of Two Cities) Jin and Sun when Sun leaves on the helicopter as the freighter explodes and the island is moved and Sawyer from the Oceanic Six when he jumps from the helicopter (There's No Place Like Home, Part 3). Jack, Kate, and Hurley from Sun, Ben and Lapidus when Ajira Flight 316 lands on the island, but some of the Oceanic Six return in different times (316) I'm looking to say something along the lines of: Members of the Lost universe experience different scenarios where they are forced away from groups in different ways - physically, legally, etc. Something like that ... --stu4488 00:18, October 28, 2012 (UTC)

Ah, yes, that was what I'd thought you meant. I think "alienation" may be misleading - it sounds even more like "isolation" than "separation" does.

Actually, separation's very much the inverse of "reunion," isn't it? And the two go hand in hand more often than not. Jack, Kate and Sawyer are separated... but they reunite eventually. Jin and Sun separate... but they reunite, three years later. The 316 passengers separate... but they reunite, at the ends of "Dr. Linus" and "Everybody Loves Hugo".

Maybe the two would go well in a single article called "Separation and reunion," listing how characters split and then come together again. --- Balk Of Fame ♪ talk 05:12, October 28, 2012 (UTC)

Yes, I was thinking the same thing last night ... okay, I'll try and finish up the "reunions" and then start on the "separations". --stu4488 15:45, October 28, 2012 (UTC) Yeah

Lighthouse

Hey bro, I added something to Lighthouse about it not having a flashback, and you took it out. How should I have done it?Glassonion0 (talk) 03:49, December 9, 2012 (UTC) You're right, thanks bro. Glassonion0 (talk) 15:20, December 9, 2012 (UTC)

You posted a comment about the Lighthouse article within the article itself. Instead, you should have posted it on the article's talk page (or simply edited the article directly, and left the comment as an edit summary).

But you also seem to have misunderstood what the article was saying. It doesn't say that "Lighthouse" contains a flashback. It says that, counting "Lighthouse", Jack has had his own flashback episode ("White Rabbit", among others), flash forward episode ("Something Nice Back Home") and flash sideways episode ("Lighthouse"). --- Balk Of Fame ♪ talk 07:00, December 9, 2012 (UTC)

Hey are there still active members on this wiki?--AngelsRock44 (talk) 23:07, January 16, 2013 (UTC)

Sure. There's not a whole lot of discussion, or much new material, but there's still plenty of work left on the articles we have. --- Balk Of Fame ♪ talk 06:07, January 17, 2013 (UTC)

Spam

Hi BoF - Came across this profile which is obviously spam, but had no way of marking it as such: http://lostpedia.wikia.com/wiki/User:Squirrel128 How do I report it? Also what is required to become an ADMIN on Lostpedia? I spend hours a week here so thought I would check. Thanks, Greg. --Gregaus (talk) 08:03, February 5, 2013 (UTC)

It doesn't look like we have any formal reporting feature. If you tell Baker1000, he'll ban the user (but if the user's a bot who posted once and left, he might just have thought it harmless).

I'm not sure exactly what's involved in becoming an admin. I imagine that the current admins meet in a dark room every year or so to discuss such matters. I'm fairly certain though that the new inductee has to kill their father as a gesture of free will. --- Balk Of Fame ♪ talk 09:00, February 7, 2013 (UTC)

Hi, Balk of Fame, just wondering why you removed my edit on Bloopers and Continuity Errors on The Constant. If you know why this isn't a logic error, can you please explain to me? It seems like the only flaw in a basically flawless episode. Thanks! :)

Hi Balk of Fame, just wondering if you could explain what I thought was a discrepancy in The Constant (Eloise knowing how to run the maze). You removed it from Continuity Errors and I'd like to know how it makes sense. Thanks! :) Yaacov613 (talk) 16:03, March 19, 2013 (UTC)Yaacov613

I left a short note in the "edit reason" box.

In the scene where we see Eloise dead, we learn that Desmond was passed out for 75 minutes. This is enough time for the rat to wait an hour, learn the maze, mentally travel back in time, mentally return to the future and then die. Desmond only experienced a few minutes during this time, but longer than that passed in 1996.

By the way, welcome back after almost a year! --- Balk Of Fame ♪ talk 18:59, March 19, 2013 (UTC)

Thanks! :)

so u completely deleted my entery did you go look at the episode? this is Justin chatwin im fairly positive... he was definitely on the plane that brought the oceanic 6 back to the island... though I don't think he is seen again—The preceding unsigned comment was added by M0umningstar (talk • contribs) .

That character's named Jed. He's played by Matt Hoffman, who's also been on CSI and Criminal Minds. He does look a bit like Justin Chatwin though. --- Balk Of Fame ♪ talk 09:22, April 1, 2013 (UTC)

my bad then I thought the different name could have just been an alias, after all he is known for being an undercover agent. yes they do look alike, actually at first I thought it was Aaron Paul from breaking bad, if you ask me they could all be brothers.—The preceding unsigned comment was added by M0umningstar (talk • contribs) .

Yeah, they both do look like Aaron Paul. And Matt Hoffman, no joke, has a twin brother - who's also an actor. --- Balk Of Fame ♪ talk 10:39, April 1, 2013 (UTC)

SPAM WARNING: I noticed you commented on a blog article but it's actually spam. This is one is quite deceptive but look carefully and you will see it. There are two links that are SPAM SITES as well as an email address which is for spam as well. It is on this blog article which I note two people have commented on! http://lostpedia.wikia.com/wiki/User_blog:JHenry/Lost_-_The_Musical_Tribute --Gregaus (talk) 11:23, April 27, 2013 (UTC)

Ah, yes, that was spam. But at least someone tried to disguise it as Lost content. Don't you wish they all did that. "Hey remember back when Hurley used to listen to those headphones all the time? He was funny! I liked Shannon too; she had great shoes." --- Balk Of Fame ♪ talk 06:30, April 28, 2013 (UTC)

Man in Black

I see you reverted my edit, and you don't think the Man in Black was disguised into his own form. Disguised may not be the exact word for it, but he did take over his own body. The episodes The Incident and Ab Aeterno are set after the events of Across the Sea, the episode where the Man in Black becomes the smoke monster. It wasn't his real body that convinced Richard to kill Jacob in Ab Aeterno, because that rotted for 2000 years and is found by Jack, Locke, and Kate. --Orcward silence (talk) 22:21, April 29, 2013 (UTC)

I get what you're saying, but it's still inaccurate to say, "This is the only episode where the Man in Black appears 100% directly." You're trying to say, "This is the only episode where we see the Man in Black in his own body before he the Heart of the Island transformed him." Though technically true, that's just a roundabout way of saying, "This is the episode that shows the Man in Black's origin," which isn't trivia - it's a valid summary of the episode and currently appears in the article's overview. --- Balk Of Fame ♪ talk 15:06, May 1, 2013 (UTC)