Jack's story doesn't add up

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is it just me, or did the writers for Lost completely butcher the story that Jack told Kate in the Pilot part 1? in that episode, Jack made it seem like he cut the girl's whatever sac, which would make her paralyzed. he said he felt extreme fear, and the only way he conquered it and sowed her back up was by counting to 5, and letting the fear in. then he didnt feel any fear, and got the job done. when the writers decided to show us this story in the finale for season 5, it turns out Jacks dad was involved, something Jack left out in the Pilot. turns out christian put jack in a time-out. this turned out to be such a dissapointment for me, and seems like the writers couldve done a better job with that scene. thoughts?

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Black Project 05:13, July 5, 2009

I agree, though it could just be that Jack didn't feel like mentioning that it was his dad's idea. That would be kind of embarrassing.
MRMIKE 05:21, July 5, 2009

Hey, what can I say, "All the Best Cowboys Have Daddy Issues"!
Elliebellie 07:21, July 5, 2009

nahh like every experience jack is explaining it how it happened for him his memory, if you ask two people to relive an experience each would have there way of telling it. jack told it like jack would.
Outlaw2448 07:47, July 5, 2009

Jack just didn't mention his father which as already pointed out "All the Best Cowboys Have Daddy Issues"
Pissedoffgiraffe 11:23, July 5, 2009

I agree with Elliebellie. Besides, I don't think it was the right time (i.e. Kate stitching him) to get into more specific details. Not to mention that he might as well have said the story that way, in order to give Kate courage.
Dottorcere 18:34, July 5, 2009

Poor Jack. Crashed on the island, tired for saving 108 people, with back-pain and bleeding... and first person he sees, is Kate! Poor dumb Jack...
Pissedoffgiraffe 18:44, July 5, 2009

"I had her... and I lost her". Pretty LAME reason to nuke the island, don't you think?
Elliebellie 20:29, July 5, 2009

yes i think its the lamest thing i heard from jack and that is saying something. the thing that gets me is why the hell would jack someone of science and proof, believe that nuking the island is going to magically put him and everyone else back on 815 and they will all land safe. 1. they were already going in the wrong direction before they crashed (they were off course) so something is clearly going on before desmond hits the failsafe, i think theyd have crashed regardless. and 2. what makes him think they d all land back on 815, who says thats where the reset would start.boom, then he believes they all will just pop magically onto 815. i never understood the logic(yes i get the whole if the button isnt pushed your plane never tears into two and crashes here)--well could nt they have just crashed anyway with out the plane ripping in half, if jacob wants them on the island they ll be on the island in another way.
Quakerpimp 01:00, July 6, 2009

Jack was likely really, really embarassed by what his father did, and too proud to admit that it was his dad's idea to count to five.
As for nuking the island because life sucked so much without Kate, yeah, that's a really lame reason. However, I think there was a bit more too it: Jack came back to the island looking for some kind of destiny and by God, what better destiny than to change everything back to the way it was before? Jack never wanted to be on the island, and the only reason he went back is because he felt hopeless and guilty about the people he left behind. In other words, I think there was more selflessness in Jack's reasons for setting off the nuke than the short, dumb, Kate-centered answer he gave Sawyer.
Can I just add that Juliet's reason for changing her mind was STILL twenty times lamer than Jack's? So pissed at Juliet for that...
U2hmtmkmkm 08:57, July 6, 2009

They wouldn't just pop magically back on 815... the point of the hydrogen bomb is to eliminate the timeline that has existed since the crash of 815. thus, by eliminating it, what's left is a new timeline that has been generated. They don't "pop" anywhere. They don't move anywhere. They cease to exist. And what does exist is the Jack from 2004 landing at LAX. But that Jack from 2004 doesn't pop anywhere either. That's not how it works.
And furthermore, his reasoning for blowing up the hydrogen bomb is actually BASED in science and logic as much as it is based in faith. He has faith in the science and logic of it. If people in the audience don't see the logic of detonating the hydrogen bomb, that's because they are ignorant, not Jack.
People hate Jack's comment about losing Kate because they hate Jack, not because what he says is stupid. That's judging the person the wrong way and says more about the person doing the judging than it says about the person judged.
HurleysHeroes 19:45, July 6, 2009

Jack also has always tried to "Fix Things", so throw that in with another shot at Kate and you have him trying to set off the bomb.
LostFreak408SJ 21:03, July 7, 2009

It wasn't butchered, it was a different version of the same story.
The point of Jacks story in the Pilot is to INSPIRE Kate... and sometimes to tell an inspiring "to the point" story, you don't include all the details, just the main point ... easily explainable
Never told a story a different way depending on who you're talking to and when ?? The details can change depending on your point for telling it...