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was looking back on some of the seasons and ive become rather confused, in season 5 finale ben is like "i needed to wait to see you" basically moaning he never see's jacob and that kinda stuff, but when ben takes locke to jacobs hut it would appear that he has been there afew times and doesnt have to worry about waiting to see jacob, also ben says jacob ignored him even though he speaks to him or is ben just lying supose that could explain why he says "what did he say" when jacob says "help me" to locke, but over all i think it was stupid that ben moans to jacob so much sayin that only richard was a messanger but oh well, what you guys think bout the ben jacob love, hate, kill relationship?