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The Numbers non-explanation

Mfiman March 20, 2009

I know it's kind of late. But I just finished reading Damon Lindef's statement regarding The Numbers (wiki/Numbers). I was more than disappointed.

I believe his statement that "We call it the midi-chlorian debate, because at a certain point, explaining something mystical demystifies it," is mainly a cop-out. In Star Wars, there was never any mystery surrounding the origins of the Force. It was accepted as part of the Star Wars universe, in the same way that the possibility of time travel is accepted in the Lost universe, without need of a detailed explanation. The Force was never raised as a mystery to be solved in Star Wars.

The Numbers are quite different. They were the focus of major plot mysteries in season 1 and into season 2. Why were those particular numbers selected to be entered every 108 minutes? Would it have mattered if different numbers were entered? Could it have worked with 107 minutes? Why was Hurley so involved with the Numbers and not any one else?

There are secondary related questions as well: Why maintain such an important function (typing in the numbers) via a system that is so prone to possible human failure? Why weren't the Others checking in at the Swan? Did they really just assume that Desmond would never fail to reset the switch? Why not just press the fail safe button in the first place and avoid all the hassle of entering the numbers (I believe I know the answer that but I'd still like to see it answered officially)? Why was the system needed at all? Presumably there was no such system before the Dharma people arrived; how and when did the need for it arrive? And so on and so on.

Even if we assume that the meaning of the Numbers has to do with the Valenzetti Equation (although I believe that was never clearly stated on the show itself), it still doesn't answer any of these other questions.

For me, to dismiss the answers to such questions as of "no interest whatsoever" is simply saying: "We screwed up. We didn't have a good explanation when we went down this road. And now, rather than coming up with one, we're going simply say it doesn't matter."

I'm really sorry to see this.

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  • I understand the whole concept behind the Valenzetti equations and so forth, but for Lindelof and Cuse to not tie the Numbers into an episode again would be a mistake. Even if they did something as simple as this:

    RADZINSKY: I decided that the code for the computer is going to be 4 8 15 16 23 42. CHANG: Why? RADZINSKY: Cuz those are the numbers, man. The answers to the equation. The meaning of life. It's all in here. (holds up a text book written by Valenzetti) The end of the world is nothing but a bunch of little digits. CHANG: Stop smoking crack.

    Okay, so the dialogue is horrible, and the last line was a joke, but you get my point; even if they explained the numbers in passing, it would be better than saying, 'Nah, that really wasn't anything special. Sorry.'

  • Wasn't this comment made a few years ago? Before they had their end date? They would be fools as writers to not elaborate more on those details of the numbers as you described above. No one is looking for specific reasons to each number, but an actual explanation as to how they came to exist and what they are being used for in more specific detail for the Swan station, etc. is of huge importance to the show.

    If they further elaborate on the numbers I definitely feel as though Lost will be considered one of the best TV series of all time, no question, hands down. If they still ignore it in their end game on the show then they are fooling themselves... The Numbers as a mystery is one of the big over-arching questions that has kept us guessing this whole series. We want to find out more. And if we don't, then millions of viewers will ultimately be left disappointed. I think they should understand that... so now that an end date is clear, and they are working towards it, and we are in DHARMA time on island I think it is more than likely we will find out more. I'm counting on it. Don't let me down Damon and Carlton! I can't wait to find out what you guys have in store for us.

  • I'm pretty sure that after the entire series ends, Damon and Carlton are going to have tons and tons of unanswered questions like these thrown at them by the fans. I'm hoping they'll have a special bonus segment on the Season 6 DVD where they answer a bunch of them.

  • The "protocol" of the numbers is needed due to the first incident that takes place in one of the Swan's rooms after the Swan station is built. The Others didn't know about the Swan until after they took over (Kelvin being the last surviving member of the DI after the Purge...until Desmond kills him of course). I'm guessing once the Others found out, they assumed to leave well enough alone. Of course, since Kelvin died on the day 815 crashed, they may not have realized there would be an issue with only one man manning the computer as they had bigger fish to fry :-)

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