Who's coming?
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This is the most intriguing question of s6 in my oppinion.
Just before Jacob dies he says: They're coming.
This could just mean that hes talking about Ilana and Bram knocking at the front door of the statue but I think its a hint towards something more.
Who or what do you think Jacob is talking about?
Personally I think that hes talking about the folk that are stuck in 1977 that just zapp back as soon as the bomb is detonated.
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This is beside the question of subject of discussion, just a personal idea *
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![[Ber418]](http://images4.wikia.nocookie.net/messaging/images/1/19/Avatar.jpg)
I think whoever is on the ship that we saw, is coming. I know most people think that it was the Blackrock, but I think the conversation we saw between Jacob & Nemesis took place in the future. I don't think people circa 1845 said words like "'cause", "aren't" or "wanna" .
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It was not in the future. They clearly discuss the loophole while sitting on the beach. Not to mention the statue is still standing when we first see them. Then under the destroyed statue, Jacob says to Nemesis "I see you've found your loophole".
The ship we see in the opening scene is almost definitely the black rock.
The fact that they were using words like 'cause", "aren't" or "wanna" could simply indicate that they are time travellers. How else would Jacob know to go visit Sawyer in 1977 when he doesn't arrive on the island until 1974. And how else would he know to give him a pen to write that letter.
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well time is irrelivant especially for Jacob and the MIB.
Also the statue was fully constructed in the time the conversation took place, so Ber418 I have to disagree with you :p
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All very good points, and I completely understand why no one would agree with me...but I still have this feeling about that scene.
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We know there is a war coming, but it's not necessarily between Jacob and his nemesis. Maybe those who are coming are the enemy. On the beach the nemesis wasn't mad at Jacob because he brought the Blackrock to the island, he got mad when Jacob said "it all ends once and anything that happens before that is just progress" it's like he knew what Jacob was planning to do and he wanted to stop it, and when Jacob said "they're coming" the nemesis got angry and kicked him into the fire.
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![[Iburnedthemuffins]](http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/common/avatars/8/83/1235536.png?20091110164555)
I really wonder what Terry O'Quinn thought the "They're coming" line was suppose to mean because he reacts with such shock and almost rage or disgust. I found it strange that one moment UnLocke almost acts concerned for Jacob as he kneels down to hear what Jacob is whispering. Then when he hears it, he freaks out and kicks Jacob into the fire! Surely the actors were given some emotional direction as to how to handle this scene and the editors chose takes that projected the story that the writers wanted to tell, but I often wonder what goes through the minds of the actors when they have no idea what the scene they are playing is really about.
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the only thing to me that explains why fake Locke would react that way is that "they" is referring to Ilana and Bram who are coming to show the Others the real body of Locke, thus showing that fake Locke isnt who he says he is
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"They" are people Unlocke was obviously unconcerned with and perhaps oblivious to until Jacob says they're coming; I think they're people Unlocke believed he'd already dealt with, but he didn't know about Jacob's loophole, Jughead. What if the Losties course corrected, but not in the way they expected and what really needed to be changed was the purge? "They" could be the Dharma Inititative. Doesn't somebody still have to change that Valenzetti equation before the earth becomes extinct?
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![[U2hmtmkmkm]](http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/common/avatars/d/d1/1278378.png?20091112023941)
In the original post, you say that the Losties from 1977 are the ones on their way to Jacob and co. but you also say that the plane would never have crashed. They would seem to be mutually exclusive events. As a lot of people are saying, by stopping the Hatch from being built and therefore preventing the crash of 815, it would prevent the Losties ever getting to the Island so there would seem to be no way for them to be zapped to Jacob and co. in 2007.
I actually have had the same view as you for a while. I think WHH is a crock. My view, like yours, is that the Hatch's existence will be negated and 815 will have landed in LAX. This will allow Jack to bury his father (I think the reason Christian has been on the Island is because he is trying to find a way for himself to get back to the real world and be buried rather than be a walking, talking undead person). But then how the hell do they come to be on the Island? This is something the WHH believers can't get their heads around. I think they get back via Ajira 316. By negating the Hatch, 815 will land in LAX, the survivors will live for three years off the Island, with memories of their past life on the Island, and then they will all board Ajira 316, which will crash on the Island.
But I think they will have an excursion between 1977 and 2007, like being timeflashed from the Incident to another odd time period. However, there are rumours going round that Matt Fox has been fibbing in his interviews around the world, intentionally fibbing. So his recent comments that have been discussed on here might be brought into question...
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Iburnedthemuffins: I also wonder what the actors are thinking/what they´re told by the directors when they react in cases such as this. From a performing point of view, it must be like acting in front of a green screen imagining a big invisible dinosaur: and while many times the actors get it right, sometimes they overact, in retrospect. Let´s take the (in)famous "They´re coming" line: so Jacob is dying, or whatever, and he mumbles "They´re coming", and UnLocke kneels and kind of helps him and has his very powerful reaction. So, if we take such response, such a performance, heavy with so much emotion, we can´t help but think: "HOLY MOTHER OF GOD! THE PASTAWAYS ARE COMING TO THE PRESENT!" But what if it´s only Ilana and Bram and the rest? I mean: UnLocke knows they´re here; he talked with them right? There´s no point in reacting in such a way if he knows who they are, and if he knows they´re coming. Unless, of course, he doesn´t know who they really are. But, considering the evil-supernatural-mastermind he is, and considering he has smoke monster by his side, it only makes sense that he knows, at the very least, who is in the island right now. So, a reaction like the one we saw would be perfectly natural if "they" are the pastaways. And it would be great acting. I mean: it IS great acting, but misleading. That´s probably my point. Hope it was clear! Hehehe
hmm i want to know this too
maybe widmore or something more sinister
or the wrong team ( the one bram asked miles not to join) which is widmores team