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Jughead and the Swan

Kirkempk May 12, 2009

Just some thoughts a friend and I were batting about;

What if when it comes down to the wire, Jack is unable to detonate Jughead- maybe he bottles it, maybe Sawyer, Kate and Juliet stop him, whatever- and the Incident occurs, and the button is installed in the swan station as described in the orientation film (Yes, I subscribe to the Whatever Happened, Happened theory). Now suppose that, in the aftermath of the incident, rather than trying to move the bomb, Dharma bury it in concrete under the Swan station, and hook it up to the swans systems- specifically to the fail-safe key. They don't know if Daniel/Jack's plan will work, but they do it anyway. In 2004, when Desmond turns the fail-safe key at the climax of 'Live Together, Die Alone', he is in fact detonating Jughead, negating the energy successfully just as Daniel said it would.

Way back when they first got into the hatch, Sayid said the only time he had heard of concrete being poured all over something like that before was Chernobyl. Evidence?

Apologies if this has been theorised before. And also I have to give duel credit to my good friend Stewsith for this theory!

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Oh well, nice try! I love to be outwitted by Lost though!

May 15, 2009 by Kirkempk
sorry bout the lousy spelling above yes, but....what about he radiation? Would the electromagnetic force cancel radiation? I'm not a scientist, does any one out there have that answer?

May 13, 2009 by Sarenaty
yes, but....what about he raiation? Would the electromagnetic force cancel radiation? I'm not a scientist, does any one out there have that answer?

May 13, 2009 by Sarenaty
You nailed it exactly Kirk. I think that makes complete sense.

May 13, 2009 by IslandJintheSun
Could make a nice twist as well, seeing Jack fail to detonate the bomb, but then seeing Dharma incorporating it into the design of the Hatch and the failsafe, and us realising the plan would have worked because we know Desmond does it in the future. Would support whatever happened happened, but still leave things nicely ambiguous, i.e. if only he HAD detonated it!

May 13, 2009 by Kirkempk
When Daniel talks about the bomb 'negating' the electromagnetic energy, I see that as effectively meaning 'cancelling out', rather than simply destroying it. These two huge forces react and cancel each other out- meaning there would be no radioactive fallout post 'Live Together, Die Alone', if indeed this theory turns out to be correct. Not scientifically feasible perhaps, but we are talking about a Science Fiction show here!

May 13, 2009 by Kirkempk
Why was he naked indeed? Did his clothes melt off?

May 13, 2009 by DriveSHAFT
Great theory!

May 13, 2009 by NotAnOther
It is a good theory. The only problem I see with it is if Desmond detonated Jughead when he turned the fail-safe key, wouldn't that have released radiation all across the island? I'm not an expert on hydrogen bombs so I don't know for sure, but it seems like it would have some effect on the island's inhabitants in 2005.

May 12, 2009 by LostDetective
Something for the ladies?
lol

May 12, 2009 by LiamOf12
Anyone ever had a theory as to why Desmond was running naked after he turned the fail-safe key?

May 12, 2009 by HurleysHeroes
good theory that makes good sense, it also supports the whole whatever happened happened thing.

May 12, 2009 by Somekindoflostfan
Very reasonable. I like.

May 12, 2009 by Jacobsturtle
Actually Dharma jay, if they'd just stood still, they still wouldn't have changed anything because WHH. Ha!!!! Just had to say that.
I have never read this theory before, but I can't think of anything better. This is a very good idea based on the info we have been given. Turning the fail-safe key was a last resort because of it detonating Jughead & they weren't sure what the true result would be. Very good theory!!!! I'm impressed. I'm gonna mark this blog/theory down.
FYI, Kirkempk you should add this theory to Jughead/Theories as it is a very good one. There is enough evidence with Sayid's comment & Daniel's belief of how Jughead could stop The Incident, to support the theory.

May 12, 2009 by NEVERGIVEUP
very well thought out theory and it's the one that I beleive in. When they first showed us juggead I thought that's got to be why they poured concrete under the swan station. Then last week we saw that it's under "new otherton" the village. So for a minute I was like "maybe I was wrong" wouldn't be the first time. But now I think sayid with his expert know how with bombs and electronics he'll remove the thermo nuclear core and bring it to the swan. Why else would sayid be there. He has an important role to do to fofill his destiny and ensure what ever happened happened. Even though he thinks he's changing the timeline he's actually just doing what he's always done. If the losties what to change the time one they should have just stood still and not get involved with the d.i. Thus changing everything. Just a though. I'll probably be wayyyyyy off....... as always.

May 12, 2009 by Dharma jay
very well thought out theory and it's the one that I beleive in. When they first showed us juggead I thought that's got to be why they poured concrete under the swan station. Then last week we saw that it's under "new otherton" the village. So for a minute I was like "maybe I was wrong" wouldn't be the first time. But now I think sayid with his expert know how with bombs and electronics he'll remove the thermo nuclear core and bring it to the swan. Why else would sayid be there. He has an important role to do to fofill his destiny and ensure what ever happened happened. Even though he thinks he's changing the timeline he's actually just doing what he's always done. If the losties what to change the time one they should have just stood still and not get involved with the d.i. Thus changing everything. Just a though. I'll probably be wayyyyyy off....... as always.

May 12, 2009 by Dharma jay