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It seems to me that the ancients of the island had the most insight. (Maybe not the best moral stance though) I mean, it seems like they built the wheel, smokie's chamber where Alex appears to ben... the statue (unless that was Jacob, him n Rich were alive long enough right?), etc. Smokie's chamber is intriguing because it suggests there were people who worshipped/obeyed it, despite the knowledge of its struggle w/ (good? represented by Taweret in the painting showing them face to face?) It gets me wondering whether Jacob is older than the ancient builders or has merely learned/harnessed the powers behind the mysticism. You never know who is in the know in this show anymore; after all, Hurley knew Jacob was dead before any of the idiot Others at the Temple like Dogen and Lennon. JFresh222 16:04, May 3, 2010 (UTC)