richard
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ok first question- i wish richard never said to sun "i saw them all die" this doesnt make any sense to me, if it is the incident, how can he watch that ? where is he ? --my only theory is that perhaps at the temple you are able to watch over the other parts of the island somehow--cindy is there and when we see her at the cages with jack and jack asks whats she doing with them she replies, we re watching)--whispers are watchers of some kind too, ok, my point is richard sees kate in 2004 when he makes the deal to save ben from that keamy guy. so how did he see her die in 1977 but meets her in 2004 and he is saying this in 2007 ?? second question does anyone think that it was almost prearranged for ben and richards first time meeting ? richard seems maybe to have an interest in ben like locke--if one of them is detined to be the island s leader but maybe he is checking out both of them, as they both have mothers named emily, born premies, born off the island(i would have thought the islands leaders should have been island born) like a proficy of some kind but to whom it means ?? why is this the only time we ve seen richard looking all beardo the pirate on us :) ????? any thoughts
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![[Lostfan101190]](http://images4.wikia.nocookie.net/messaging/images/1/19/Avatar.jpg)
I think that we will find out next season that Eloise woke up shortly after being knocked out by Richard and demanded to see Jack/Daniel's plan through to detonate the bomb. He would oblige because Richard always listens to the leader. They will get close enough to see the incident, but not enough to get caught in the explosion, which will probably transport Jack, Kate, Sawyer. etc. back to 2007. Eloise might get hit with a blast, though, which is how she got her ability to see the future (just like Desmond was able to after getting the full blast of the swan implosion after turning the failsafe key). Maybe Richard figured out that Kate had to have time traveled from the time she helped him stop Keamy to 1977 since she was the same age both time periods (about). Then, Richard would have known that Kate would eventually (appear to) die in the incident explosion when they met in the season 4 finale. Finally, I think that the porate Richard was actuall Jacob's nemesis posing as Richard with an image of him from the last time they met (which was probably when Richard gets off The Black Rock and has a showdown with him). Jacob's nemesis would do this to fuel a rage inside Ben about always having to be patient.
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He probably thought that Sun was talking about everyone in that picture, so Richard may have reffering to The Purge, not The Incident. Thats my opinion anyway.
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![[Beardo the Pirate]](http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/common/avatars/d/db/1408853.png?20091015172908)
I like Virus's idea. Maybe he didn't really take a good look at them, just saw Dharma, so he knew they were all dead.
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![[Pat108]](http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/common/avatars/e/ec/1413575.png?20090827014251)
I dont think thats the case. The line was supposed to make us think Jack and the rest of are main characters died in 77. I think it would be more complex then Richard just talking about Dharma in general. But who nos
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![[Iburnedthemuffins]](http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/common/avatars/8/83/1235536.png?20091110164555)
I agree that Richard could have thought the people in question either died in the Purge (which he saw firsthand) or in the blast of the incident (which he would have seen at least some of no matter where he was on the Island). As for not recognizing Kate, whenever he's met the Losties in a different time period, it takes him a minute or two to put together that he knows them from somewhere. If you met someone for 5 minutes and then saw them again 20 years later looking exactly the same, you might not immidietly make the connection.
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Ever think Richard is a liar? He has been on the island for years and years and years and knows a lot about some stuff, but clueless on others. Perhaps it is an act and he is evil.
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Richard said that he "watched them all die" because he was there when Eloise led Jack and Sayid to the hydrogen bomb. He led them to where they could enter the DHARMA barracks, and then he took Eloise back because he's protecting their leader. He knew their plan, and he was around, and later he felt the explosion or saw it from a distance. In that way, he "watched" them die. He knew it was a suicide mission, and he assumed that they all died. Plus, him seeing Kate in 2004 wouldn't contradict what he said. He knew that they were time traveling when he and Sawyer had their talk in LaFluer. I think Richard is a genuine guy, and is doing everything in the best interest of the island.
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Maybe Richard has the ability to see into the future, or has flashes like Desmond, or maybe he is from the future and he "saw them all die" in the future. He did not specify WHEN he saw them die, did he? Has anyone ever thought Richard might also be some kind of manifestation of Smokey?
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seeing kate would contradict it, as it is 1977 richard time and in 27 years he will meet kate and she will be alive. i guess this falls into if you beleive whh or not and yes exactly obsessed !!clueless is the perfect word for it. and if richard sees the explosion he is assumming they died he did nt see them die.
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![[Lost247]](http://images4.wikia.nocookie.net/common/avatars/b/b9/1424343.png?20090810062147)
I think richard knew hes seen them in that past but can't interfere with wats going on cause if locke was going to be the leader sometime down the road.see he's tried gettin locke to the island a couple times as a child but locke wasnt ready the first time and the second time locke just flat out said no to the invite to the "science camp".So with him knowing that he probably just decided not to get in the way. Cause wouldn't u think once he knew locke was on the island he would have gotten locke from day one of knowing he was there?so he knows that locke someday down the road will be leader and lets locke find his way as leader like it would have happened in the first place. the only time we know of richard helping locke get into the others was when he told locke that sawyer would kill his father cause he knew locke couldnt do it himself.i wouldnt say richard believes in WHH hardcore but just lets things play out.As for him knowing that they died is hard to say cause it could of been in 77 with the blast, or maybe he thought she meant all of the D.I. and thought the purge;or maybe another time. but hey idk i dont write for the show. i would just put my money on he doesnt want to interfere with whats supposed to happen.....Sorry for the blurry of words been celebrating the 4th all day long.
Boy, isn't Richard going to get a shock next season when they all come back. (ha ha). I wish he hadn't of said it either. The Ben/Locke beginnings are suspect that the island leader must meet a criterion aren't they?