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Lost Rewatch: "The Candidate"
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If any children reading this will cover their ears for a bit, I was watching a movie a little while ago tht featured a scene of depressing shower sex. Or rather a few seconds of shower sex that stopped when the woman, standing, told her husband below her to give up. And it reminded me of Lost, but I didn't realize of exactly what... till I realized it was this episode.
That's one more tragedy to add to Sun and Jin's death: no reunion sex. During their last reunion in "Collision" (which capped a separation of only four days before which they'd been in the same camp but purposely lived apart for a week) they immediately turned to a night of muscular, Korean intercourse. But this time? No suck luck. They're walking around this episode, holding hands, just waiting for a moment alone. And then they die.
But wait! Flash sideways to the rescue! Between reuniting and moving on, they do have a night together!
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They could have re-enacted the Kate/Sawyer sex scene in the cages...but it would have been a little bit awkward for everyone else. But wait, who knows what went on in those final minutes in the watery sub?!
In all seriousness though, I do feel like the Sun/Jin reunion scene was a little too rushed. I would have liked a full scene where they discuss what happened, and for Sun to tell him a little about Ji-Yeon. All we had was a very quick scene where Sun gave Jin back his wedding ring and that was it. It felt forced, and it lacked the emotion that it should have had. I guess there wasn't too much time to dwell on it, especially in a fast paced episode such as this. It's one of the sacrifices of having shorter seasons and really driving towards the end goal. A number of scenes and conversations between characters, the likes of which we would have seen in the first two or three seasons, just weren't important enough for the writers to spend time on. Conversations such as a Claire acknowledging Alex as the girl who helped her escape the Staff, and perhaps thanking her. We can assume this happened off camera, but it's something I would liked to have seen.
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Yeah, the whole reunion was too rushed. Even apart from their first scene together, which Ill avoid analyzing again for the sake of my own sanity.
Could this episode have put a little more time to Jin and Sun? Even if it couldn't have spared a single action scene, what if they cut the Jack and Claire FS scene seriously shorter? I was a good scene, not as good as a proper Jin and Sun one would have been.
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But hold on. Maybe we're being a little too superficial with our opinions. "That reunion was way rushed"? That's just-watched-the-episode-talk.
We now know that the show reserved a whole third of the season for a special place that the characters MADE to reunite in. So the Island had answers, and action, and sadness, but if you wanted reunions? Those were for the flash sideways.
I was being flippant before when I said "flash sideways to the rescue," but on second thought, I was right. Sun and Jin had their "there's no more danger anymore! you're okay!" moment in the flash sideways hospital in "The Last Recruit", and they had their "we're together at last, and oh what a couple we are!" moment in the finale. They had their "we're together, let's have sex" moment in "The Package", even though they didn't realize the significance at the time.
Some of these scenes seem hollow because, well, they're dead, and the scenes shouldn't have the same significance as reuniting before a life together. But if that's true, a more elaborate reunion on the Island in "The Last Recruit" or "The Candidate" would have felt even more hollow - they were about to die, and there's the end of whatever joy we were watching.
So yeah, Sun and Jin's reunion was cut short. And Claire had no dramatic reunion with any of her friends after three years - hers, with Jack, and with Kate, and with Charlie, and with Aaron, and even with Desmond, all went into the flash sideways. (No flash sideways scenes with Hurley. But, thinking about it, how many scenes did she even have on the island with Hurley, throughout any of the first three seasons?) The mandatory, at-least-once-a-season drawn out musical reunion in "Dr. Linus"? Cut short, not only by Richard standing alone, and Ben standing alone, but by the arrival of 70s spy boat - all those characters who mattered would have real reunions in the flashsideways; except Richard, so he got to have his on the island itself in "Ab Aeterno".
It's a wonder the writers even let Jack and Kate kiss on the island. But I bet they had to debate between on the island or in the flash sideways - both was not an option.
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Well, now I feel silly for saying it! You're right of course, the flash sideways were where the emotional reunions took place, and the Island was left with all the action. I prefer seeing Jack and Kate kiss on the Island though, as it's a farewell kiss rather than a "I missed you" kiss. We had plenty of those in the flash sideways, a good example being Claire and Charlie.
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Anyone else disappointed the music from Sun and Jin's final moments got changed for the soundtrack release? The last part, when you see the sub sinking and their hands drifting apart was changed. I find the one in the episode a lot more emotional, although maybe it's because it makes me recall the footage from the show.
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I was... for a while. But that part of the the episode has no dialog, so if you paste that audio on to the mp3 from the soundtrack, the result sounds great!
And you also still have the actual track, which has its own merits...
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No crying but I was sad because they were beginning to kill off some MAJOR characters and the end of the show was near!!!!
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They should use a like button on Wikia. I like this comment also :P But you're right! ;)
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The is the only episode is the history of the show which actually managed to make me cry. Right at the end, after Jin and Sun's death and then Hurley crying!
The Incident came close, but I didn't - I controlled myself! :D
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I only cried during this scene and that time Juliet brought Jack a cheeseburger... but there was no ketchup :'-(
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Hahaha. Well the moment Sun sees Jin get "blown up" still makes me go all blurry with tears welling up. Even though I know he doesn't die, and that they find each other again eventually. It's a credit to Yunjin Kim's performance really.
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Sun and Jin's deaths were the most shocking to me, because I never expected both of them to die, but one survive.
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Same here. We'd seen plenty of Sun mourning Jin, so I was sure we'd end up seeing Sun die and leave him. And Sun getting shot in "The Last Recruit" just reinforced that idea in my mind. But not so...
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I did find out that Sun and Jin would die on the Sub, but the manner in which it happened was a complete surprise to me. I think I was more tense during the episode because I knew I would see them die, rather than if I knew nothing and watched the drama unfold. Needless to say it's one of the saddest episodes of the series, but also one of the best to watch as it's so fast paced. Even the flash-sideways story has quite a bit of emotion in it. Anyone who watches this episode and doesn't at least well up cannot be considered normal.
And anyone else actually get emotional just seeing Jack break down at the end too?
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Still get emotional seeing Jack break down at the end. And no matter how may times I see the episode then cut to MIB and Claire, I still picture the scene with Jack cutting to s silent "LOST" title card.
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I liked this episode, but I think it was definitely one of the saddest ones of the whole series.
