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Lost Rewatch: "Across the Sea"

BalkOfFame January 18, 2012
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Across the Sea

Across the Sea
See main article: "Across the Sea" (Transcript)

Episode number: 15

Original air date: May 11, 2010

Flashback: Jacob & The Man in Black

Written by: Carlton Cuse & Damon Lindelof

Directed by: Tucker Gates

Plot: The history of the relationship between Jacob and the Man in Black is revealed.

Guest starring: Kenton Duty as Jacob (age 13), Allison Janney as Mother, Lela Loren as Claudia, Mark Pellegrino as Jacob and Titus Welliver as The Man in Black

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  • This is still my least favorite episode, by a wide margin, but let's brainstorm ways to improve it. Not little things to fix the individual ways the episode went wrong. I mean total overhauls.

    • Do the whole thing in Latin. You never cringe at dialog when it's in another language. You normally notice no flaw at all, and when you do, you chalk it up to bad translation and enjoy hearing the foreign words themselves. Sun and Jin's best scenes? All in Korean. Sayid's best flashes? They all have someone speaking Arabic. My favorite scenes from season 5's first half? Possibly the Rousseau ones, where everyone spoke French. I admit, it might have been hard getting the kids to say their lines in Latin, but we failed at getting them to do so in English, so I don't see how Latin could have been worse.
    • Eliminate all dialog. Now that I think about it, who needs dialog at all? This wasn't an episode where we had to relate to the characters. This was a grand myth. So why not leave it silent? Except for the music of course. Better still, convert it to a ballet. We would have been annoyed as Lostpedians, being unable to note exactly what happened, but it would have been so much more fun to watch.
    • Cast the actual Lost cast as the characters. We like the cast. Even when it's a new character, like the Man in Black in seasons 5 and 6, we like seeing someone we know play them. So have every actor we know take turns playing the characters in the episode. This would have confused many, leading to further entertainment.
    • Replace the cast with muppets. Casting known muppets, like Miss Piggy for Mother or Sweetums as Oldest hunter, might be controversial, so instead create new muppets to play them. This way, adults would voice the child parts.

    Any other suggestions?

  • Man I friggen LOVE this episode! Without this bit none of the final season would make any sense... its not as important to the rest of the series as some may say, but it is fun to buffer the ideas off of from every episode from the pilot on up.

    Now we've gone over the whole black and white, good and bad thing a dozen times, but I want to just dip into a small refresher, since we are at the heart of the island here. The power of the island does not belong to one source... it belongs to two sources. Black and white. While whatever force of nature created black and white probably intended for the two forces to work together, in the end it always seems to be that one stands alone.

    That in my guess was true for the mother of the island.... well skilled in the art of bashing b*tches heads with rocks, at some point she found herself to be the last (wo)man standing on the island. This is where we find her at the beggining. Alone. But nature does not intend for people to be alone too long (thousand years tops!) Just enough for a mother to understand how to protect her island.

    Years of living alone with nothing but the smoke on one side and the light on the other caused her to realize what was really important. When the island brought her twins, the pieces came together in her mind. Two sides, one black one white. Her responsibility is to allow the two to live together, so that they don't have to spend that 1000 years alone.

    BUT, the power of black is fickled. Never satisfied, always looking for some sort of loop hole. Why should black and white live together forever? One must die and the smoke saw to it. One must draw lines in the sand, set boundaries, choose sides.

    But in the end it doesn't matter if black wins in the end or if white wins in the end,,, because there is no end. Eventually it all plays out again, and again and again, as if crossing through the same intersection no matter what road you take. As Jacob noted once; it's all progress. Ultimately all that matters is that in a world where black vs. white, once in a while black and white come together,,,

    As Jacob laid his mother and his brother in the cave, the only two people who he had ever learned from or even associated with up until that point, he gave one a black stone and one a white stone, and looked ahead at his time alone on the island.

    by Wallyp

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