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In response to all the "They all died in the plane crash" theories

10529231 June 20, 2010

After the series finale aired, many users started a revival of the "they all died in the plane crash" theory, or some such similar theory - I won't list them all here.


Most of these theories don't have specific evidence; theory-makers only seem to care that they fit with the facts, not that there's proof in the show for the theory. Critics of these theories will often point out that there doesn't appear to be any proof for the theories. Apologists point out that there doesn't appear to be any proof against their theory either. Critics can't seem to think of any proof that disproves the theory (or at least, proof that the theory-maker is satisfied with). Lots of arguing ensues. People get angry. It's the same thing every time.


I would like to highlight a specific point in these arguments. Both sides point out that the other is wrong due to lack of evidence. This is a logical fallacy, called an "Argument from Ignorance". The fact that it hasn't been proven false does not make a theory true. Neither does the fact that a theory hasn't been proven mean that it is false.


Allow me to illustrate my point. The next paragraph is a theory that I just came up with. I do not believe this theory to be true. That said, I have put together this theory specifically so that it's unprovable. Nobody will be able to actually prove or disprove my theory, no matter how hard they try. Here we go:


Lost is about a group of people who died in a plane crash in 2009, we'll say. Everything that happens in Lost didn't necessarily happen, but is the collective subconsciouses of everyone on the plane exploring their pasts. As it turns out, Jack Shephard wasn't actually a spine surgeon during his life, but actually worked in a box company. John Locke was Jack's manager at this box company, but felt he never deserved the job. Kate was going to marry Jack but left him at the altar. All of these people lived in LA (a very significant city in the show) and often vacationed on Oahu. Their lives were often tied together in curious ways, but they never ended up on the Island together.


This theory can't be proven wrong, but that doesn't make it true. It doesn't make it untrue just because it can't be proven right either. So how do we differentiate between all the different equally valid theories and accept one? Occam's Razor. "The simplest explanation is usually the correct one". Occam's Razor isn't always right. But when we don't have anything else to work with, it's a good tool to use.


What's the simplest explanation, then? What you see is what you get. Whatever happened, happened, exactly as the show portrayed it to happen. It was all real.


I know some will disagree with this, but this is why I don't believe they died in the crash.

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  • @Harcourt OMG I've never thought of that before!!!

  • So do we include this as canon?

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZDgbKJWDxcE

  • LOL.... 8-)

  • @ Harcourt, Yes, much evidence supports this. I've even seen interviews where Jack , Kate etc reveal themselves to be actors playing a part. We should note this somewhere.

  • Harcourt, are you a retard?

  • And why do you believe this?

  • I don't think it was all real, I think it was a story! my theory is ALL the characters are figments of imagination to begin with, and only exist in a fictional universe where nothing is real and character means lots of soap opera drama in your life.

  • He's edited and expanded it since I read it, I can see what he means now.

  • @Pexxoum, He is explaining that people who have not seen the entire show, or misunderstood certain reveals will have a different theory, but that does not make them stupid.

  • @Panglossa, I'm not quite sure what you're trying to say.

  • seems like most of the people still on lostpedia understand that they lived on the island, and only the flash sideways was an existence outside of life. Christian Shepard makes it clear as day with what he tells jack in 'the end.' perhaps some of those people were trolls.

  • I agree with you 90%. But we can't call "theory" this "they were all dead from the beginning" thing. It is much of a misinformation. It is like you hear say about Beethoven's 9th symphony and say that it is a great opera.

    By the way, we can "prove" such sayings wrong (please note the quotation marks around "prove"), with evidence from the story. Using your example, I would point that the story line began in 2004 from information unambiguously given in the story, and ended in 2007 also from what is stated in the show. And everything that happened, happened, as Christopher told Jack at the end (also "actual" information from the show). There is a line between a theory, which may be "proved" false or wrong from actual data from the story, and hoaxes or bogus sayings created by those who simply missed parts of the story or simple heard say about it.

    As a last example, these days a friend of mine told me about a story of some people dealing with a criminal while they were stranded in a desert island. After some time trying to explain the story to me, he was able to remember its title: Lost. Only then did I deduce that he had probably seen only one or two episodes from Season 1, somewhere between the point in which they find out that one of the passengers was a prisoner and the moment they discovered the prisoner was Kate. So, this thing about Lost being a story about people trying to find out who is the criminal in a desert island could not be called a "theory", it is simply something born out of misinformation.

  • agreed with the blog post, but some of the comments are a little harsh. Let's not insult anyone's intelligence, there's polite ways to disprove theories too

    by Jf518
  • I havent read any of these theories about everyone dying in the crash, but I dont understand the point of it. As a fan of the show, I wouldnt WANT to believe a theory that everything we watched was for nothing. They might as well have ended the show with Hurley waking up and everything was a dream. Is the theory that everyone died in the crash actually more satisfying than everything actually happening? Not if you ask me.

  • Some people are just born stupid.

  • @ Pexxoum: Agreed. The idea of a "They all died in the crash" never seemed like a possibility to me when I watched the finale.

    @ Aj0125: They're definitely a minority, though I'm not sure it would be proper to discount their intelligence. I don't think that endorsing these theories makes them unintelligent. They're just trying to work out the show like everyone else.

  • Everything was real, end of story. You can think differently but you can't possibly provide more evidence than a character pointing this fact out in the final moments of the show. In terms of quality of evidence, this trumps all.

  • I don't think that most intelligent lost fans think that they died in the 815 crash, but what do i know?

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