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- I believe this article should be Watchmen rather than The Watchmen-- Contrib¯ _Santa_ ¯ Talk 21:24, 9 September 2006 (PDT)
ozymandias (veidt)Edit
- Pan, you should grab a copy and read it for yourself. I think the plot is even more obvious than the few plot summaries I've seen online: There is a plot to save the world, at the cost of an enormous number of innocent deaths.
- It's very clear that the chief plotter, Ozymandias, with enormous political and financial resources (like Hanso), sees the end of the world coming. He then engineers a way to avert the end of the world: He engineers a way to kill millions of people in New York in such a way that it looks like the world is being invaded by aliens. The hostile superpowers stop infighting and join in response to this threat.
Santa, thanks, I just heard about it myself, and am happy that someone who has read it can edit in more similarities! I am linking the lostblog article where I read it first (I think that's why you know, right, was I that obvious? lol). It sounds like a very cool story and I would like to check it out. Feel free to edit as much as you'd like, since I am just getting it through a secondhand report, and never feel fully comfortable paraphrasing others. --PandoraX 21:39, 9 September 2006 (PDT) PS: On the title, I put a redirect page of Watchmen over here, but maybe we should just move everything over there.
Other Watchmen References -- Black Rock, Walt/Comic book, Desmond, Jack Edit
1 -- The Black Rock maybe be a reference to the Black Frieghter http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Watchmen#Tales_of_the_Black_Freighter
2 -- In Watchmen there is a little boy (same age and ethnicity as Walt) reading a comic book about a ship wreck. The boy is killed by the appearance of a psychic monster. The monster was created on a hidden island by a secret society. Then events of the comic book the boy is reading parallel events happening in the real world. In Lost Walt was reading a comic book and events seem to happen in parallel (polar bear appearance.) same link as appove.
3 -- In Watchmen Dr. Jon Osterman is disintegrated in an electromagnetic event. Through force of will he is somehow able to re-intergrate himself. "...Jon has his 'intrinsic field' removed. He is instantly vaporised and declared dead." He reappears naked, and with amazing powers. He also experiences time in a non linear fashion. So he percieves past, present, and future simultaneously. He is not able to "change" future events though as, for him, they have "already" occurred. In Lost Desmond was at ground zero of an electromagnetic event which seemed to disintergrate the hatch. He however turned up nude some time later and appears to have a form of clairevoyance. But he careful words his "prediction" of Locke's speech not as if it will happen, but has happened. Desmond may have had an experience similar to Dr. Manhattan. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doctor_Manhattan#Transformation_and_abilities
4 -- Jack's character in Lost may be paralleling or referencing the main character (castaway) of The Black Freighter comic book (meta-fiction within Watchmen). The character is obsessed with returning home and becomes uncontrollably paranoid and irrational. He is insanely jealous. the Castaway does eventually return home, but loses his mind in the process.—The preceding unsigned comment was added by Ilgrandesilenzio (talk • contribs) 04:03, 23 October 2006.
5 -- When Locke puts the orange in his mouth and smiles he bears a resemblence to the image of a smiley face with a blood smear over its right eye used as The Watchmen front cover and in the story itself. http://www.geocities.com/mbrown123/greatest_comics/watchmen1.jpg
6 -- As of Because You Left & The Lie, the phrase "(then) God help us all" is spoken twice. This is a phrase spoken in the comic and also prominently featured in the movie trailer of Watchmen. http://nl.youtube.com/watch?v=E4blSrZvPhU
7 -- When Locke uses the hairspray and fire against the polar bear, the tactic is similar to Rorschach's defense when cornered in Watchmen
Whoever wrote this went overboard. Edit
I am surprised I don't see: There is a sun in The Watchmen. There is a sun on LOST too.
