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Who can effect 'Past?'[]

When Faraday mentioned about "no new streets rule" he himself put an exception for Desmond, that's OK. However Desmond remembered meeting with Faraday, 'after' Faraday went back and affected past. That's OK too.

But I'm somehow disturbed Locke's affecting past (Richard & Widmore) what do you think?

  • You need to distinguish between affecting the past and changing the past. It seems Desmond is special in being able to change the past, albeit in only minor ways because of course correction. (It's unclear how the flash-sideways fits into this and whether all that is wrong because of that, so we'll leave that aside until we know what's going on there.) Locke is not, as far as we know, special in the way that Desmond is, and so he wouldn't be changing the past. But then we've seen nothing where he has done so. Every time he's affected the past, just as with all the other characters, it's consistent with "whatever happened happened". Desmond's specialness seems to be that he isn't limited by that the way the others are. Parableman 13:11, April 27, 2010 (UTC)

Section headings[]

Why are all the section headings done using the <big></big> tags?--  Lost Soul   talk  contribs  03:28, 25 June 2008 (PDT)

- Because i am very inexperienced at editing here and i recycle much of the code i see on other pages, also with the events featuring the candle man video at comic con and all that i think it's clear the direction lost is beginning to take, i am simply not able to on my own but i'd suggest we look into making a non-crappy (mine) unified 'time' / timetravel' article? I believe i was one of the first ones that enspired the creation of the 'time' article as both its creator and I saw this coming a while back. You're welcome to fix up the article if you wish, at the moment i am looking to add info from the candle video. Thanks. Thumper.

Reverse Time Travel[]

I would like to see something posted about Mrs. Hawking being able to time travel in the past.

"LINDELOF: Unless you travel back in time, like Mrs. Hawking does." http://www.ew.com/ew/article/0,,20036782_20037403_20038202_3,00.html --Kansasgal71 17:41, 1 August 2008 (PDT)

Just updated now what[]

didnt know if i needed permission or anything to do this, what shall i do get rid if the rewrite thing at the top? conoreff

I just did it for you. -- CTS  Talk   Contribs 12:25, 8 August 2008 (PDT)
thanks alot, im a bit of a noob here that was my first try at doing something conoreff
That's alright, we were all noobs at one time :). If you want to erase a banner just click "EDIT" and delete the banner at the top of the page then click "SAVE" -- CTS  Talk   Contribs 12:30, 8 August 2008 (PDT)

Time Travel Overkill[]

I like the few uses of time travel within the show, but unfortunately the often rabidly overzealous fans of the show have used it as an excuse to assume that every moment in the show is somehow linked to time travel. Pandora's box has indeed been opened. --Christian BC 17:28, 30 December 2008 (UTC)

Time Travel Overkill Redux and the Solution[]

I have to completely agree, but specifically about time travel to the past. While we have seen that an individual's consciousness can be shifted into the past (e.g. Desmond, Mrs. Hawking), there is no evidence whatsoever that any actual physical time travel to the past is possible within the writing of the show.

I point out my argument here: [1], but in essence it boils down to something very simple and important. The Comic Con Orchid video implied that time travel is possible both backward and forward. However, the final version of the Orchid Orientation video was edited to clearly contradict that. (Just watch the two back to back and you will quickly see what I am saying.) The version that actually aired only showed that time travel is possible forward through time. There are way too many misinformed people running rampant on Lostpedia with backward time travel theories when the show has specifically not included time travel to the past (with the exception of consciousness). Not only have the show's writers carefully made it clear that travel to the past is not part of the canon laws of physics on the show, by completely recutting the Orchid Orientation Video, but it also makes sense both story-wise and according to our real world laws of physics. (Before you jump on me about that last one, you have to understand that according to the Theory of Relativity, that physical objects including people can by external forces be accelerated through time. It's hard as hell to do, but within the laws of physics. Going back in time, however, is not within the laws of physics.)

So: People, can we have a lot more discretion about time travel to the past? It's been made canon that time shifts into the future are possible on the show. However, there is no evidence whatsoever, and there is in fact evidence entirely against it, that time travel to the past is possible within the confines of the Lost universe.

We need to clean up Lostpedia in regards to this. Let people have there discussions about it, but it's leaked all over onto all kinds of pages and this is completely misinforming people looking for simple verifiable information. New fans and old fans trying to get back into the show are immediately put off as a general rule when they read things on Lostpedia about time traveling to the past. There are way too many misconceptions and misinformative articles on here. It did not used to be this way.

So, I say to you, as a community, that this is a community problem. There is a very serious misconception being perpetrated by fans that are confusing lots of people about time travel to the past. This serious problem needs to be fixed. I ask you as a community: when you see that there is incorrect, non-canonical information about time travel to the past (outside of an individual's consciousness), then I beg you to edit or delete the bad information because it is becoming pandemic. I will do what I can, but I am fairly new to writing and editing on wikis, so it's going to take me a while to learn to do things according to the proper etiquette. I want to make sure that any and all changes I make are done respectfully and within the rules of Lostpedia. Thank you, community.--Japhy Ryder 09:45, 9 January 2009 (UTC)

college level[]

"Any college level physicist will tell you that time and space have a connection that extend across many areas of physics and it is difficult to fundamentally discuss or analyze one without the other."

what the hell is that supposed to mean? I am college-level physicist (ok not really, I study math and compsci but I had one semester of physics :) ) and I don't understand what this sentence is trying to say --Running 05:30, 5 February 2009 (UTC)

Locke's Exit[]

Under "Confirmed Human Cases," it says "The only difference was that unlike Ben's 10-month-skip, Locke travelled 3 years into the future." Locke traveled from the time when the statue was intact and there was no orchid to 2007 -- which is more than 3 years. We don't know exactly "when" it was prior to locke setting the wheel on its axis.—The preceding unsigned comment was added by Mfbridges (talkcontribs) .

Remaining "Meta-Time" Paradox[]

It is worth noting that the concept of "course correction" does not in fact resolve all paradoxes of time travel. Even if the future cannot be changed, from the point of view of the time traveler who has gone to the past, the most minute change in the past itself, whether it has consequences for the future or not, constitutes a paradox where two contradictory pasts somehow exist. For instance, in Desmond's past, he both buys the ring from Ms. Hawking and doesn't buy the ring from her. This is a paradox. And if the past can be overwritten, why not the future? As many physicists are quick to note when discussing this subject, there is no "meta-time". That is, to take seriously the fact that "whatever happened, happened," is to admit that absolutely nothing, not the slightest detail about anything can ever be altered via time travel.

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