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Archive 01 - May 21, 2006 - August 30, 2006

Spoiler/Speculation move

  • As per the comments above, this article is now an EPISODE GUIDE only, in line with the existing episode guide articles Lost Season 1 and Lost Season 2. If you have any questions regarding whether content you wish to add is appropriate for this article, please compare with the content in these two episode guides for S1 and S2.
  • The spoiler tag has been removed. DO NOT ADD SPOILERS.
  • Pre-existing spoilers, speculation, and general confirmed S3 information from the previous version of this article have been moved verbatim to: Lost Season 3/prespoilers
-- Contrib¯ _Santa_ ¯  Talk 18:06, 30 August 2006 (PDT)
  • Obviously we don't want unconfirmed titles in this article...but does it make sense to have known airdates? I know the S1 and S2 articles don't have them in that slot, but since there are no sections for those episodes yet would it make sense to have the dates in the episode list temporarily? As a reader, it seems like it would be convenient to have them there, at least until the episodes air. Minderbinder 08:37, 12 September 2006 (PDT)

Archive talk

Season 3 Commercial

  • Has anybody else in the US seen the new commercial? *SPOILERS, sorta* In tthe commercial it focuses on the three "captives" and in the commercial Jack opens a hatch door and water floods in. This should give way to the "underwater hatch" idea. Anyone else agree? --marik7772003 10:36, 4 September 2006 (PDT)
    • Just in case you are thinking of adding his information, it does not belong in this article. If you wish to simply discuss your theories, this is the wrong place: try the s3 prespoilers talk page, or the lostpedia forums. -- Contrib¯ _Santa_ ¯  Talk 15:55, 5 September 2006 (PDT)

I wasn't thinking of putting it in... I was just asking people what they thought about the supposed Others' "Underwater Hatch/Flame" idea. --Marik7772003 17:22, 7 September 2006 (PDT)

    • This is the article talk for Lost Season 3 episode guide. I suggest forums as a place for that discussion. Cheers. -- Contrib¯ _Santa_ ¯  Talk 18:44, 7 September 2006 (PDT)

Jack: S3E01

  • Does the identification of Jack as the focal character follow Lostpedia policy? (Does this flashback-focal-character information come from official sources?) -- Contrib¯ _Santa_ ¯  Talk 01:49, 12 September 2006 (PDT)
  • I'd agree, what's the source on Jack having the flashbacks? The page A Tale of Two Cities still lists the flashback as Kate, and while I can't find anything that seems official, many other sites are saying the rumor is Kate. -- Minderbinder 08:22, 12 September 2006 (PDT)
  • TV Guide reported that the order of flashbacks for the first four episodes were Jack, Locke, Sun/Jin, and Sawyer. Seeing as TV Guide isn't listed as a reputable source for episode names and such, we'll just have to change that back. --Fezir 15:58, 13 September 2006 (PDT)
  • Check out the pictures on ABC medianet.[1] It sure looks like a Jack flashback to me. Notice underneath each caption the date 10/04/2006 is written.--scocub
I agree but it could be multiple.--CaptainInsano 11:50, 14 September 2006 (PDT)
  • The only time they have done multiple flashbacks in the past have been with married couples (like Jin & Sun and Bernard & Rose) or in flashbacks that take place during the day they were all boarding flight 815. Given that the creators have said there will be less flashbacks from main characters I would say that this is going to be a Jack only flashback. I guess we'll see, but if you are a betting man... "Always bet on Jack..."--scocub
It's highly unlikely that it's multiple. This is going to be a Jack episode (See ABC Medianet Photos). --   Jabberwock    talk    contribs    email   - 07:30, 19 September 2006 (PDT)

Photos?

What's the big deal with people constantly removing pics around here?? --PandoraX 21:29, 13 September 2006 (PDT)

  • The pics are all from the official ABC trailer right? -- Contrib¯ _Santa_ ¯  Talk 00:22, 14 September 2006 (PDT)
  • Correct. I just reverted User:Ellie's latest removal of the pics. I'd like to know WHY people keep removing them. --Aero*Zeppelin 21:38, 14 September 2006 (PDT)
  • Another thing that is getting me about photos, which is unrelated... but still. Photos are not a confirmation of what is going to happen in the next episode. We can only confirm that once the press release tells us so. Photos released by ABC could be from any of the next few episodes coming to air. SO STOP CHANGING TALE OF TWO CITIES TO SAY JACK UNTIL WE GET PRESS RELEASE CONFIRMATION. Thank you. --plkrtn 06:46, 15 September 2006 (PDT)
  • I understand your theory but it is most likely incorrect. The previous two season worth of episodes, 46 episodes by my count, ABC's medianet always shows the date of the aired or future date episodes captioned under the photos from that particular episode. Why would they change this protocol now? I think it's ridiculous that there was no problem in putting Kate's name as the flashback with no official confirmation but pictures from ABC are not good enough.--scocub
  • Given the spoilers that have leaked in the past, and the degree to which this season's rumors are conflicting, I wouldn't be surprised if ABC makes a greater effort to keep secrets, which may even include releasing false rumors or otherwise trying to mislead. True, it definitely seems likely the first episode is Jack flashbacks, but until ABC comes out and says it, it's not 100% for sure. Is it really that big a deal to wait for the ABC press release, and in the meantime leave it as disputed? I don't see the harm in being on the conservative side. Minderbinder 15:18, 15 September 2006 (PDT)
  • You make a good point, unsigned, anonymous poster. I don't believe that ABC is intentional putting up pictures with misleading dates but I can't argue with the fact that when the press release from ABC comes out it will put an end to any dispute. I guess what I take issue with is the lack of consistency I have seen regarding Season 3 information. What has been established from the Lostpedia Theory policy as the accepted offical sources is sometimes disregarded. Please tell me what official source stated the first episode was a Kate flashback? From my understanding spoilerfix.com is not an official source. How long was Kate listed in the flashback field for "A Tale of Two Cities"? No one thought it was a problem but as soon as something that was accepted as fact is questioned, people get upset. Consistency gives Lostpedia credibility.--scocub
  • I'd agree that it shouldn't have been listed as Kate before, and shouldn't have been definitively listed on the other page either. Seems better now. If you see things that are inconsistent, go ahead and make them consistent. (Sorry I forgot the signature before) Minderbinder 15:18, 15 September 2006 (PDT)
  • After the episode airs the pictures should be moved to the episode article, leaving maybe one for episode. See how Lost Season 2 is done. --   Jabberwock    talk    contribs    email   - 17:45, 15 September 2006 (PDT)


Petition for Locking

I say that this page should be locked. People are constantly messing it up with the fake episode names and whatnot. By the way, those "spoilers" like "Further Instructions" and so on, were reported as False by the sites that posted them. Shi no Kyoufu

I have already asked for it to be protected, see here. But no one has answered me back.--CaptainInsano 08:39, 17 September 2006 (PDT)
Done - locked. Might want to leave a message with a sysop if your requests for protection aren't being locked at promptly. --   Jabberwock    talk    contribs    email   - 09:05, 17 September 2006 (PDT)
Locked for how long? --Jambalaya 05:43, 19 September 2006 (PDT)
It should be unlocked just before it airs....so around 8/7c on October 4th. (I was referring to the episode page. I think that after the season begins we'll may have to leave this page locked since it's likely the trend will continue. If you have something to add to the page, post it in talk or leave a message with a sysop. --   Jabberwock    talk    contribs    email   - 07:32, 19 September 2006 (PDT)

Votes

  • Agree: I agree with the protection of this page. That way users will have to give a sysops a source, and if it is a proper source then the sysop can add it.--CaptainInsano 08:46, 17 September 2006 (PDT)

Episode 1 IS Jack's flashback.

Promo shots have been released for the first episode, including ones of Jack with his dad and Sarah. I found them here. --Fezir 19:53, 17 September 2006 (PDT)

  • Also, ABC has officially announced the guest star list. Found it here. --Fezir 13:41, 18 September 2006 (PDT)
  • It looks more and more likely (extremely likely at this point), but we still don't know 100% that it's Jack's flashback. The pictures aren't necessarily from that episode, but the guest list makes it sound like Jack. Minderbinder 16:25, 18 September 2006 (PDT)
  • The pictures are from that episode. The airdate appears under the pictures on ABC medianet. Check all previous pics online, the airdate is below them. It has been that way for 46 episodes.--scocub

Sneek Peek

I don't have sysop prevliges and I don't know where to put this but here's a clip featuring Sawyer in a prison, and a promo for season three: http://www.thatlitevideosite.com/video/3290

Further Instructions - Confirmed by ABCMediaNet!

Well, we have a confirmation! press pictures have been released on ABCMN here. Searching for press release now, and requesting someone add the new information. Be right back with more info! --Aero*Zeppelin 20:43, 21 September 2006 (PDT)

Thanks, I have updated the relevant pages. --   Jabberwock    talk    contribs    email   - 07:34, 22 September 2006 (PDT)
  • Further Instructions additional info from ABC medianet. See press release[2] “Further Instructions” was written by Carlton Cuse & Elizabeth Sarnoff and directed by Stephen Williams.--scocub
Is someone going to update this information?--scocub
Updated. --   Jabberwock    talk    contribs    email   - 08:00, 26 September 2006 (PDT)

It says Claire finds Nikki and Paoulo in Jack's tent. I didn't think he had one. First he was living in the caves and then the Hatch, yes?--Tricksterson 08:43, 28 September 2006 (PDT)

He has/had one.--CaptainInsano 14:55, 28 September 2006 (PDT)

Possible Spoilers from TV Guide?

I was reading the article in this week's issue and found a spoiler section with info about the upcoming season, most prominantly that the October 25th episode will be Sawyer-centric (although I forgot the episode title they listed). Should I add these or would TV Guide be a horrible resource for this type of information?--Mighty Rearranger 12:47, 26 September 2006 (PDT)

The Glass Ballerina is on October 11th!

[3]

"The Glass Ballerina" - Sayid's plan to locate Jack places Sun and Jin's lives in grave danger. Meanwhile, Kate and Sawyer are forced to work in harsh conditions by their captors, and Henry makes a very tempting offer to Jack that may prove difficult to refuse, on "Lost," WEDNESDAY, OCTOBER 11 (9:00-10:01 p.m., ET), on the ABC Television Network.

Editors Note: This episode replaces "Further Instructions" which moves to Oct. 18.

"Lost" stars Adewale Akinnuoye-Agbaje as Mr. Eko, Naveen Andrews as Sayid, Henry Ian Cusick as Desmond, Emilie de Ravin as Claire, Michael Emerson as Henry Gale, Matthew Fox as Jack, Jorge Garcia as Hurley, Josh Holloway as Sawyer, Daniel Dae Kim as Jin, Yunjin Kim as Sun, Evangeline Lilly as Kate, Elizabeth Mitchell as Juliet, Dominic Monaghan as Charlie and Terry O'Quinn as Locke.

Guest starring are M.C. Gainey as Mr. Friendly, Tania Raymonde as Alex, Paula Malcolmson as Colleen, Michael Bowen as Pickett, Byron Chung as Mr. Paik, Tony Lee as Jae Lee, Sophie Kim as young Sun, Joah Buley as Luke, Tomiko Okhee Lee as Mrs. Lee and Teddy Wells as other.

"The Glass Ballerina" was written by Jeff Pinkner & Drew Goddard and directed by Paul Edwards.

Full TV Guide Info:

From the October 2-8 edition (I have a subscribtion):

Small article on right of page 24 says MAJOR SPOILER ALERT. In it is the following: -- REMOVED SPOILERS -- I'M SICK TO DEATH OF SEEING THEM IN THE INCORRECT PLACE AND HAVING THIS SHOW RUINED -- Plkrtn  talk  contribs  email  10:57, 9 October 2006 (PDT) Any questions? Is this canon? Please help! --Mighty Rearranger 12:01, 27 September 2006 (PDT)

Not canon, but you can add all the rumors to Lost Season 3/prespoilers. --Minderbinder 12:44, 27 September 2006 (PDT)

Yes, this should all be moved to the Lost Season 3/prespoilers article. --   Jabberwock    talk    contribs    email   - 14:03, 27 September 2006 (PDT)

S3E04 - Every Man for Himself

It's official according to ABCMediaNet now: http://abcmedianet.com/ams/assets/both/2006/010/09/100906_13.html Timdorr 14:58, 10 October 2006 (PDT)

Look down we already know.--CaptainInsano 15:00, 10 October 2006 (PDT)

According to WCHSTV [4], episode S3E04 is going to be called "Every Man for Himself". They've also posted a short synopsis:

"Sawyer discovers how far his captors will go to thwart his and Kate's escape plans; Jack must scrub up to save an Other's life; Desmond's behavior perplexes the survivors when he starts constructing an unknown device."

Is this a reliable source?  ODK Talk   Sandbox 14:43, 7 October 2006 (PDT)

Nope the only reliable online source is infact ABC Medianet.--CaptainInsano 14:46, 7 October 2006 (PDT)
Correct. ABC Medianet is the only official source for episodes. The titles, plot summary, and guest actors are in the press release, which normally comes out a few weeks before the episode airs. No need to rush to create a whole bunch of articles that could just get deleted anyway. --   Jabberwock    talk    contribs    email   - 20:41, 7 October 2006 (PDT)
IMDB [5] also states that the title of S3E04 is going to be "Every Man For Himself". --Jezza 02:50, 8 October 2006 (PDT)
IMDB is like a wiki , everyone can add spoilers or something , so imdb is not confirmed ^^ Cool Man 0912 04:06, 8 October 2006 (PDT)

WCHSTV gets the info before ABC put its onto Medianet people, its an reliable source indeed like TVGuide/Ausiello.—The preceding unsigned comment was added by Jaga (talkcontribs) .

What makes them a reliable source? I wouldn't consider Ausiello a source either, he's a rumor/spoiler guy. --Minderbinder 10:43, 9 October 2006 (PDT)

Eko, Locke, Desmond, and the hatch.

Are we not going to see them until episode 3? That's the way it's sounding right now. The first episode focused only on the Others' prisoners and it looks like the second will be about that and Sayid, Sun, and Jin's rescue attempt. Maybe the third will be about those two things and the hatch? --Fezir 15:44, 7 October 2006 (PDT)

You are right. We won't be seeing the rest of the survivors till episode 3. -- Plkrtn  talk  contribs  email  02:07, 10 October 2006 (PDT)

Every Man for Himself Confirmed

Episode 4 of Season 3 has been confirmed by ABC medianet [6] I would guess this is episode is Sawyer-centric since Kim Dickens as Cassidy is listed as a guest star.--scocub


its also at http://www.abcmedianet.com/ams/assets/both/2006/010/09/100906_13.html -brianopp 22:05, 9 October 2006 (PDT)

Someone with editing privelages want to add the title for 304? It can also go on {{Season3nav}}. --Minderbinder 11:03, 10 October 2006 (PDT)


  • Hey , I was also looking at IMDB and Every Man for Himself and The Cost of Living were confirmed episodes. So someone should take care of that. --James W. 17:41, 11 October 2006 (PDT)
  • IMDB is *not* a reliable source for future information. Information is added wiki style by users, and it often has wrong info. Source titles need to come from abc or abcmedianet.com to be considered confirmed. --Minderbinder 06:28, 12 October 2006 (PDT)

Update this page!

The Glass Ballerina has already been shown, can a sysop change the "Air Date: October 11, 2006 (scheduled)" to just "Air Date: October 11, 2006" and "This episode replaces "Further Instructions" which moves to Oct. 18." to "This episode replaced "Further Instructions" which moves to Oct. 18." Also, the image could be this one. --Phmall 15:50, 13 October 2006 (PDT)

Same for Further Instructions--NotARedHerring 11:08, 20 October 2006 (PDT)
Although I think we should include the info that the two episodes were switched from the order originally planned. --Minderbinder 06:35, 21 October 2006 (PDT)

"The Cost of Living" Confirmed by ABC

Episode 5 of Season 3 has been confirmed by ABC medianet see the doc here[7]--scocub

Episode 6 kind-of confirmed.

There is a spreadsheet on ABC Medianet showing the schedule grid for the next four weeks. The fourth week shows the title of episode six as "I Do."[8] Kate flashback I'm guessing. Not really sure if this qualifies as official. It's on Medianet, but it's not a press release. --Fezir 13:37, 17 October 2006 (PDT)

Do you have a link? --CrystalSkull 14:34, 17 October 2006 (PDT)
Found it myself [9] --CrystalSkull 14:44, 17 October 2006 (PDT)
Good find, however It's probably best to wait for the full press release to come out before adding it to the official list, nav, and creating an article. There really isn't much we can put in the article without it. --   Jabberwock    talk    contribs    email   - 18:23, 17 October 2006 (PDT)
BTW, press releases generally come out on Mondays, look for a press release on this episode next Monday here. --   Jabberwock    talk    contribs    email   - 18:24, 17 October 2006 (PDT)

Further Instructions

"Further Instructions" says Meanwhile, Claire is shocked to find Nikki and Paulo in Jack's tent. This was not in the episode at all. Please remove. --Snarf 10:13, 19 October 2006 (PDT)
That's what was in the ABC summary. It's what goes to TV guides, the DVD boxset, and everything else. So regardless, that is what the official summary of the episode is. --Keyes 08:01, 25 October 2006 (PDT)

It was in the summary and may have gone to TV guide, but it didn't end up in the episode, so it's simply not true. It won't end up in TV guide for reruns, and if it ends up in the boxset I'll eat my hat. That line isn't anywhere on abc.com, is it? --Minderbinder 15:04, 25 October 2006 (PDT)

Picutres

Can one of the SysOps add the pictures that appear in the episode's infobox to the sections in this page?  ODK Talk   Sandbox 18:20, 26 October 2006 (PDT)


Episode 7?

I have heard that the Episode 7 will be based on Juliet's flashbacks. The episode will be called, "Not the portland". I will try to find the source where I heard about this     Nusentinsaino     talk    contribs    email   12:25 PM, 1 November 2006 (EST)

It will get added to this page once ABC announces it in a press release. In the meantime, it's probably already been mentioned on the page Lost Season 3/prespoilers. By the way, please don't talk about spoilers or potential spoilers on this page. Thanks. --Minderbinder 09:26, 1 November 2006 (PST)

ABC has now made such an announcement so lets get it added.

Please read the notice in bold letters at the top of the page. You can also read this spoilerish page. -- Cheers 09:41, 1 November 2006 (PST)

My mistakes, thanks for the info.     Nusentinsaino     talk    contribs    email   12:48 PM, 1 November 2006 (EST)

Now JULIET is CONFIRMED for 3x07 (Video Podcast) ----

Episode 10 - Hurley Flashback

According to the Official Lost Podcast, Episode 10 of Season 3 is Hurley's flashback. Is there a place in the article where this can be added? Nick2010 19:38, 2 November 2006 (PST)

No, not at this time, but feel free to add it to the prespoilers article. --   Jabberwock    talk    contribs    email   - 22:57, 8 November 2006 (PST)

Is it January 31 or February 7?

When does Lost return: January 31 or February 7? If it returned January 31 then there would be 17 episodes, a total of 23. But if it starts February 7 as many are saying, then that's only 16 episodes for a total of 22. What's the verdict? ShadowUltra 19:21, 7 November 2006 (PST)

The first episode should be February 7, but I imagine there will be a recap episode the week before on January 31st. --   Jabberwock    talk    contribs    email   - 22:55, 8 November 2006 (PST)
You maybe confused, I think the Australian S3 debut is Feb 7 --Blueeagleislander 22:58, 8 November 2006 (PST)
US return is Feb 7 [10]. There will be 16 episodes, I assume the last will be a two hour special for a total of 23 hours (1 hour shorter than previous seasons). It's a safe bet they will have a recap show either a week before, or Feb 7 in the earlier hour. --Minderbinder 14:27, 9 November 2006 (PST)

Main Themes

Now is a good time to start entering some text into the main themes part of this page. Please write some paragraphs here and a sysop can add them to the article. Thanks, and namaste --   Jabberwock    talk    contribs    email   - 22:53, 8 November 2006 (PST)

Anyone care to take this on? Surely we can write a summary of the themes so far. --   Jabberwock    talk    contribs    email   - 15:11, 22 January 2007 (PST)

Sneak Peaks on Wednesdays

I'm not sure if anyone has taken the initiative to add this yet, but there was a sneak peak during Day Break last night and I was wondering where to put a brief sumarry. It seems like they're going to show a new scene weekly, so do you think a separate page (with spoiler warnings) should be made or should it all go on the prespoilers page?--MightyRearranger 15:20, 16 November 2006 (PST)

I have a transcipt:

[Start]

[Desmond walking by Charlie on the beach]

-Charlie: Hey, I don't know what you are doin', but you best tell us.

[Desmond keeps walking]

-Charlie: Oi, don't walk away from me. Don't know how your doing what your doing, but I know a coward when I see one.

[Desmond turns around]

-Charlie: Yeah a coward, you heard...

[Desmond tackles Charlie to the ground]

-Charlie: get off.

[Desmond puts his hands around Charlie's throat]

-Desmond: You don't want to know what happened to me when I turn that key. You don't bloody know what happened to me.

[End]

The last part where Desmond is saying "You don't want...". He is weeping and drunk so it is hard to hear what exactly he is saying.--CaptainInsano 19:00, 16 November 2006 (PST)

S3E07- Not In Portland

It has been confirmed by Carlton Cuse in the December 6th podcast that this is the title. We should add it to the main page and to the Season 3 Nav.--LOCI!

No they didn't, you must've been half awake listening to it or something. Carlton Cuse asked Damon Lindelof if he would care to comment on the title "Not In Portland" and Damon replied that he wouldn't like to. This doesn't confirm anything accept they know of the title. Although I think this is what the title will be, I don't think we should try and pre-empt this. Also look at the top of the page which specifically states the only accepted source is ABC MediaNet. -- Plkrtn  talk  contribs  email  02:11, 8 December 2006 (PST)
Isnt that abit OTT? If it turns out the episode title changes then we change the name of the page, i dont get what the big deal is, especially as the title of the episode is near enough confirmed by the podcast. I think by asking Damon to comment he meant commenting on the relation to the epsisode and the name, not the fact that the title may be wrong. --lewisg 02:57, 8 December 2006 (PST)
  • I haven't actually heard it, I just have heard from other people who had access to it that THEY heard that title. I'm sorry.—The preceding unsigned comment was added by Lost On Craphole Island (talkcontribs) .

Not in portland is now confirmed by abc medianet. so lets get it added.

New promo picture

Season 3

New promo with Juliet, Nikki and Paulo, Eko removed.

There is a new promotional picture for Season 3 (basically the same as the current one, except Eko has been removed and Nikki, Paulo and Juliet added). Should it be added, or should the original stay? >: 4 8 15 16 23 42 08:54, 18 December 2006 (PST)
I think that one is a better picture. --   Dee4leeds  talk  contribs  all  11:06, 18 December 2006 (PST)

Henry Gale?

In the first paragraph, about third sentence the page says

"Michael Emerson joins the cast as a regular in his ongoing role as "Henry Gale"."

Should this be changed or, at least the link changed to Benjamin Linus?--Mr.Leaf 19:01, 30 December 2006 (PST)

This was from the press release released before Season 3 started, so they didn't want to use spoilers in press releases. I do agree with changing the link. --Aero*Zeppelin 13:50, 31 December 2006 (PST)

Season 3 Second Part synopsis

This paragraph was added to Lost's page on ABC Medianet. [11] I think it should be added to the Season 3 page.  ODK Talk   Sandbox 08:44, 7 January 2007 (PST)

As the second part of Season Three opens, Jack seems to have gained the upper hand, as Ben’s life literally rests in his hands. His demands are simple – release Kate and Sawyer as prisoners of “The Others,” let them safely return to the island and he’ll stay behind. But does Jack have a hidden agenda? Kate finally made her romantic decision between Jack and Sawyer by choosing the smitten con man – but were her feelings for him genuine? Juliet – one of “The Others” -- makes a shocking decision that could endanger her standing with her people. After the death of Eko, Locke’s obsession to uncover the secrets of the island leads Sayid to believe that his intentions may not be in the best interests of his fellow survivors. Sun and Jin will continue to celebrate their pregnancy – but is the child really Jin’s? Just as Charlie returns into the good graces of Claire and her baby, Aaron, Desmond drops a bombshell on him that could change the course of his life forever. After the hatch imploded and the electromagnetic charge was expelled, questions arise as to what effects it had on the island – as well as the outside world. Will Penny Widmore find the island and her long, lost love, Desmond, and can the survivors find a way to interact with the outside world?

"Not in Portland" is now official!

ABC released promotional photos of "Not in Portland", with a confirmation to the episode's title. [12] (click on "View Full Caption").

In the return episode, "Not in Portland," Jack is in command as the fate of Ben's life literally rests in his hands. Meanwhile, Kate and Sawyer find an ally in one of "The Others," and Juliet makes a shocking decision that could endanger her standing with her people.  ODK Talk   Sandbox 07:02, 12 January 2007 (PST)

Hoorah! --lewisg 06:59, 12 January 2007 (PST) So can an admin stand up and take notice of this? or ignore the now obvious? --lewisg 14:20, 13 January 2007 (PST)

  • Ok well if nobody says otherwise im going to add NIP to the Episode 7 part. Any objections add here now. As i see no reason not to. --lewisg 03:13, 14 January 2007 (PST)
  • Ok maybe not. Although, to any Sysops that read this - Why aren't we adding this, apart from the fact its been confirmed by ABC Medianet, therefore its DEFINATE! Unless theres a last minute change.

Even so, even if this wasn't definate, its been confirmed by medianet, and even if it does change, we can change it as information is released. Why do we have to keep skirting around the issue? Just add it. If it changes, which is VERY unlikely, change it to whatever it becomes. (Sorry to be so 'to the point' but all the ignoring of the issue and putting it to the side is getting tedious). --lewisg 03:23, 14 January 2007 (PST)

WHY IS THIS BEING IGNORED!--lewisg 05:23, 17 January 2007 (PST)

So lets get it added.

In the future you can leave a note on my talk page and I'll notice it faster. Lots of updates went in to the locked pages today. --   Jabberwock    talk    contribs    email   - 15:13, 22 January 2007 (PST)

The new Clip Show's name

According to ABC Medianet [13], before "Not in Portland", ABC is going to air another clip show - "Lost Survivor Guide". I think it should be added to this page to Season 3's template.  ODK Talk   Sandbox 09:09, 17 January 2007 (PST)


According to IMDB i.e. [14], the titles for episodes 8-11 have already names. I´m not shure if abc does confirm that. User:Blecheimer 19:49, 21 January 2007 (CET)

  • Yes they have so why hasnt that been added?? --lewisg 11:02, 21 January 2007 (PST)

Opening Paragraph

Erm. The opening paragraph suggests that both Sun ans Jin are pregnant. I don't think thats true. Lol. THE MONSTER .

Season 3 part 2 already started!

On the top of the page there is a note US Season 3 Part 2 start date.... It should be removed, part 2 started just hours ago!

NIP IMAGE

Could someone change the Not In Portland image to a picture more relevant, like Juliet or something. --lewisg 03:44, 10 February 2007 (PST)

Jin Pregnant?

There is an awkwardly worded sentence that say's Sun and Jin continue to celevrate their pregnancy. Jin isn't pregnant. Although it would be an interessting plot twist... --Princess Dharma (banned) 05:42, 17 February 2007 (PST)

Well, I'd say the sentence is OK, but of course it might not be Jins :) -- Plkrtn  talk  contribs  email  15:10, 17 February 2007 (PST)

The Man From Tallahassee

This is the title of an episode confirmed in the 2/20 podcast!

  • Great catch, Thinker. The new page has been created. --Marik7772003 21:48, 23 February 2007 (PST)

Episode reception?

I don't know if this is the right place to mention this, but I thought it would be nice if in every episode article, there could be a section about how the episode was generally recieved by fans. You could obtain this information fairly easily by looking in archived episode revieves or podcasts. Let me know what you think. thanks.

Sypnosis

As much as I love this article, the beginning sypnosis assumes the reader has watched the mini-season and continues from there onwards. Could anybody either write a small passage summing up the mini season or unprotect the page for a short while so I could do this I would be very grateful. Any thoughts ? DrGiggles 09:48, 29 March 2007 (PDT)

Left Behind

Could someone please update this page with an image for Left Behind? Sirius 17:10, 9 April 2007 (PDT)

Promo material

Also, for future episodes, can someone put up this image as a placeholder? Image:Sea3casta.jpg or Image:Sea3cast2.jpg It's the *brand new* season three promo material. Thanks! (Isolation815 17:38, 10 April 2007 (PDT))

Possible issue with spoilers

Do we really need to have the flashback character for future episodes in that top box? I had the Desmond flashback for the Season 2 finale when I was just reading an episode page. I think it'd be better for the top box to have the links for episodes that haven't aired yet say "Episode xx", with the number, and have them link to the page for that episode with a title of the episode and a note of who the flashback character is. Minor spoilers are still spoilers, and there's no harm done in making people who want to know future information click something. Good idea? Shit idea? Svmenhovex 21:25, 10 April 2007 (PDT)

  • Wait... what? Maybe I'm just stupid, but I have no earthly idea what you're talking about... (Isolation815 21:45, 10 April 2007 (PDT))
  • Sorry, I was running on like 4 hours of sleep when I wrote this. Lemme try and explain more clearly. In the navbox for Season 3 on individual episode pages, it lists all past and future episodes. However, some, including myself, would consider the titles and flashback characters for future episodes displayed in the navbox a spoiler. To minimize this risk, I think that unaired episodes in the navbox should merely be listed as "Episode xx", with xx being whatever number in the season this episode is. The real title and flashback character would then just be listed in the episodes individual page. Is that better?—The preceding unsigned comment was added by Svmenhovex (talkcontribs) .
  • I have changed the FB for these future episodes to avoid being spoiled by that. Although I don't think there is any need to change the episode titles. if the titles ever give anything major away such as "Ep 24 Kate Dies, because the Monster doesn't like her" we will definitely look into something like that. However at the moment the episode titles don't really give much away. -Mr.Leaf 17:07, 11 April 2007 (PDT)
  • Of course, one could just avoid the page altogether until after the episode has aired...--paulski 09:28, 13 April 2007 (PDT)
You misunderstand. He's talking about the navbox for season three. You can't avoid it since it appears on every episode page of this season. I like the idea of either leaving future names off but since the titles are vague I don't think it's really a spoiler to put them on. --Minderbinder 14:05, 16 April 2007 (PDT)

The Man Behind the Curtain confirmed

Episode 320 is confirmed as being called "The Man Behind the Curtain". Please add to main season 3 page.—The preceding unsigned comment was added by Isolation815 (talkcontribs) .

Done --Nickb123 (Talk) 12:43, 14 April 2007 (PDT)

Which episode had footage reshot?

There was a news article a month or two ago that some footage had been lost in a Hawai'i airport X-ray machine mishap... can anyone tell me which episode had the reshot footage? If I had to guess, I'd say the Nikki/Paolo one... JoelVanAtta 12:58, 30 April 2007 (PDT)

I think it was "D.O.C." - I remember Daniel Dae Kim saying he had to refilm some of the flashbacks. >: 4 8 15 16 23 42 08:46, 3 May 2007 (PDT)

Episode count for when page is unlocked

Only the dead ones are official, of course, but we have a template at least to start.


Main Cast Returning (In Order of Episode Count)

Matthew Fox as Jack (xx/23) Terry O'Quinn as Locke (xx/23) Jorge Garcia as Hurley (xx/23) Josh Holloway as Sawyer (xx/23) Evangeline Lilly as Kate (xx/23) Daniel Dae Kim as Jin (xx/23) Dominic Monaghan as Charlie (xx/23) Naveen Andrews as Sayid (xx/23) Yoon-jin Kim as Sun (xx/23) Emilie de Ravin as Claire (xx/23) Adewale Akinnuoye-Agbaje as Mr. Eko (2/23)

Joining (In Order of Episode Count)

Henry Ian Cusick as Desmond (xx/23) Michael Emerson as Ben (xx/23) Elizabeth Mitchell as Juliet (xx/23) Kiele Sanchez as Nikki (5/23) Rodrigo Santoro as Paulo (6/23)

--Jeff 00:17, 10 May 2007 (PDT)

Unlocking & Episode Count

Could this page please be unlocked as soon as possible, seeing as Season 3 has officially finished?

Also, here are the episode counts:

Returning (In order of episode count)
Evangeline Lilly as Kate (20/22)
Matthew Fox as Jack (19/22)
Josh Holloway as Sawyer (18/22)
Naveen Andrews as Sayid (16/22)
Dominic Monaghan as Charlie (16/22)
Jorge Garcia as Hurley (15/22)
Daniel Dae Kim as Jin (14/22)
Terry O'Quinn as Locke (13/22)
Yoon-jin Kim as Sun (13/22)
Emilie de Ravin as Claire (12/22)
Adewale Akinnuoye-Agbaje as Eko (3/22)

Joining (In order of episode count)
Elizabeth Mitchell as Juliet Burke (17/22)
Henry Ian Cusick as Desmond Hume (16/22)
Michael Emerson as Benjamin Linus (15/22)
Rodrigo Santoro as Paulo (7/22)
Kiele Sanchez as Nikki Fernandez (6/22)


    • Shouldn't Ian Somerhalder, Maggie Grace and Malcolm David Kelley be listed under special guest star, since that is how they were credited? --Jeff 01:28, 26 May 2007 (PDT)

Boone, Shannon, Walt & Unlocking

I think that the special guest stars should include Shannon, Boone and Walt in the following order (including mr. lashade)
Ian Somerhalder as Boone Carlyle (2/22)
Maggie Grace as Shannon Rutherford (1/22)
Billy Dee Williams as Mr. LaShade (1/22)
Malcolm David Kelley as Walt Lloyd (1/22)
Also, could the person that is responsible for this page please unlocke it? This is just because all the other season pages are unlocked and others may want to contribute and add information that is needed that has been missed. Thanks heeps! —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Browndog (talkcontribs) .

The Season 3 Navigation

Could whoever that is able to edit the Season 3 navigation template please put next to the "Greatest Hits" column: (Charlie & Karl) as Karl had a flashback in this ep. Browndog

Move episode list to top, please?

I like to use the Season pages as portals to get to the episode I'm looking for. This page was much more useful when the episode list template was at the very top of the page. Robert K S 06:20, 9 June 2007 (PDT)

Nikki/Paulo Dispute

What dispute? Who wrote that bit? Because, honestly. Have you even CHECKED abcmedianet.com and their press releases? RODRIGO AND KIELE ARE LISTED UNDER GUEST STARS. Doesn't that settle the "dispute" well enough? Hell yes, it does. So, no, whether they're guests or regulars is not a matter of personal opinion. It's a fact that they're not. And I'm going to update it right now. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Remus Lupin (talkcontribs) .

  • Actually, Sanchez and Santoro were credited as guest stars after the mini-season, during the mini-season they were credited as part of the main cast, hence the dispute. If you rewatch the first six episodes of Season 3, you'll see that Kiele Sanchez and Rodrigo Santoro where listed as main cast. Yet starting in "Tricia Tanka is Dead" they are credited as guest stars. This makes they're status debatable. --Mr. Crabby (Talk) 16:30, 10 June 2007 (PDT)
    • No more disputable than Shannon, Boone, Artz, Michael, Walt etc. etc. They were main cast members, then ended up later on as guest cast. Exactly the same in my eyes. -- Plkrtn  talk  contribs  email  07:26, 11 June 2007 (PDT)
      • It is interesting however to note that in all the ABC press releases they have been changed from main characters to guest stars only in the episodes they appeared in, so really they were nothing but guest stars. -Mr.Leaf 08:17, 11 June 2007 (PDT)
        • Oh, come on. I read spoilers every day and I read those press releases the SECOND THEY CAME OUT. And guess what? Kiele and Rodrigo weren't listed under "Starring". They were listed under "Guest starring" in all the episodes they were in. ALL OF THEM. They weren't even in the OFFICAL PRESS RELEASE FOR THE NEW SEASON. Those two weren't regulars at all. Never were. Gregg Nations (someone who actually WORKS ON THE SHOW) himself said that they were not regulars, that they just had good agents or something. So, ABC and TPTB have both admitted that they were not regulars. I'm going to move them back under "guest starring" now and PLEASE, people, DON'T MOVE THEM BACK. Thank you. User:Remus Lupin
          • The press releases listed them as guests, yes, but IN SHOW, they were listed as starring. (For the first 6 episodes and Exposé, atleast, I haven't had the time to recheck TTID and Enter 77 yet ... ABC Medianet makes mistakes. Alot of them. As they were credited as starring IN SHOW, they should be in my opinion concidered regulars ... Doesn't the show have the first cannon priority ? --LeoChris 14:18, 13 June 2007 (PDT)
            • Agreed 100%. The show should have first priority. Not all of the fans look up these minute details on this site. This site isn't even for the public to see. Somehow, we just know about it. It's not like they were left off of episode they weren't part of. They were listed in episodes 1-14 as regulars, no exceptions. That's the end of the discussion. Plus, when they were casting for the year, they were casting 3 new regular roles, and all the news media sites deemed them as such.--Alexisfan07 19:44, 13 June 2007 (PDT)
              • Clearly, this is a dispute. Credits vs. Abcmedianet. The credits agreed about Emilie's middle status for the fist part of season one and about Malcolm in season two; this time they didn't, but I have to go with the credits more so than anything else. Putting the dispute paragraph back up.--Alexisfan07 19:49, 13 June 2007 (PDT)
                • No. No. NO. NO! IT IS NOT A DISPUTE. The credits may say so, YES. ABCMedianet says they're not. ABC says they're not. TPTB of Lost say they're not. When one of the workers on Lost (Gregg Nations, I believe) was asked why Rodrigo and Kiele were not on a panel discussion with the Lost cast and crew, Gregg said that they weren't because they aren't regulars on the show. Isn't that enough evidence, dammit? The only thing that says they're regulars is the credits on the show. ALL THE OTHER THINGS SAY THEY'RE NOT. User:Remus Lupin
                  • When four or five sources say one thing upon being explicitly ASKED about it, and one source claims something else, my money would be on said source being in error. Let's assume episode titles would be displayed on the screen. Now let's assume the title of the Nikki/Paulo episode would be erroneously spelled "Expos" on the screen. The ABC press release says "Exposé", the summary on the ABC website says "Exposé", the Fuselage sub-forum says "Exposé", Damon and Carlton say "Exposé", and Gregg says "Exposé" and insists that the title was misspelled on the screen. Would you insist that "it was 'Expos' ON THE SHOW and that's what has priority for me" as well?--Nevermore 05:45, 17 June 2007 (PDT)
                    • No, because that would never happen. And the credits have had more accuracy than abcmedianet has in the past.--Alexisfan07 10:58, 17 June 2007 (PDT)
                      • Why would that never happen? Misspelled episode titles have happened on other shows, and errors have happened on Lost.--Nevermore 16:03, 17 June 2007 (PDT)
  • I can see people have very strong feelings toward this, so I'm just going to leave my opinion. I personally think that they count as main characters. A) The were credited as such for six episodes and B) They had a flashback episode. I personally think the rule we should have on Lostpedia is "Once a main character, always a main character". There is no doubt though that they were at one point main characters. Here's a screenshot from a Tale of Two Cities (an episode Paulo didn't appear in) listing Rodrigo Santoro in the credits [15]. If he was a guest star, he only would have been credited for the episodes he appeared in. --Mr. Crabby (Talk) 19:37, 21 June 2007 (PDT)
  • Rose and Bernard had a flashback episode. And Desmond had a flashback episode before he became a main character.--Nevermore 16:03, 17 June 2007 (PDT)
  • No matter what your opinion is on this topic we certainly have reached a conclusion. The original post was debating where this argument about Nikki/Paulo came from and if it even existed. I think we can safely say it does. And to add to the Nikki/Paulo main characters argument, they were included in the Season 3 poster for after the break, something that no guest star has ever done, it's always the main characters.-Mr.Leaf 16:47, 17 June 2007 (PDT)
  • On screen credits are subject to legal approval. Credits are vetted through the title and credit administration dept. to make sure every I is dotted and T is crossed. Guilds and unions get VERY angry when their members aren't properly credited on screen. Conversely, press releases (what you see on ABCmedianet) are put out by network marketing departments. While all press material has to be approved by legal, it is never scrutinized the way on-screen credits are. After all, a press release is nothing more than a piece of paper while an on-screen credit is an expensive contractual requirement. Wrecktum 17:33, 18 June 2007 (PDT)

Sayid's episodes

Someone changed his episode count down one, but the chart shows him as being in the earlier number. Which brings up the question: does "Expose" count for Jack and Sayid, since it's just stock footage? Do we have a unified policy on if brief stock footage counts? Since it differed in season 5. --Golden Monkey 23:14, December 7, 2009 (UTC)

  • I've always thought stock footage counted. For example, Nikki's season 4 cameo is included on the Season 4 page. --LeoChris 23:19, December 7, 2009 (UTC)

Remember when ...

Looking back, when this article was written, its interesting

http://tv.ign.com/articles/745/745595p1.html

--stu4488 00:34, July 21, 2012 (UTC)

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