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Have we seen the Faith Healer before?

You may recognize him as "Scorpius" from Farscape. This is his first episode on Lost.    Jabberwock    talk    contribs    email   - 07:14, 13 April 2006 (PDT)

Contents 1 Black Rocks & Volcanic Action 2 Ayer's Rock (Uluru), Oceanic Air 3 Rose *And* Bernard ? 4 Something doesn't make sense. 5 After five months, Bernard would know 6 Why is Henry/Ben so gleeful, exactly? 7 Policy

Black Rocks & Volcanic Action

We had a lot about black rocks and volcanos in this episode.. maybe it was to sorta prove the island is not magic'ed into existence but volcano formed.. which of course a remote, mid oceanic, island would be.

We don't tend to have double bluffs on the show so far so i think its to just take away the mystique of the islands creation. Gale made it sound magical and hidden from the eyes of God.. but now we have some science going on to cool us back down.

That does sort of suggest that the island is protected in some way but I'm not sure that it being volcanic is really all that important to the final solution... but maybe...

If I recall correctly Sayid thinks that the Hatch might be geothermal powered and of course the natural heat source of the lava would allow steam powered turbines to function in the creation of power and hot water.

Bernard mentions a lava field of black rocks and Jack recognises the location of the meeting with 'the Others' partly by the large black rocks in the area.

I have to say that the rocks we saw (standing in the clearing especially) didn't look that volcanic to me but could well have been thrown out from an eruption.

--MRNasher

Ayer's Rock (Uluru), Oceanic Air

Forgive me if this has all been said, but I don't visit any Lost forums so I'm never up on the latest theories, but there might be a connection between Isaac of Uluru and Oceanic Airlines. Uluru, of course, refers to Ayer's Rock, which is a very distinctive landmark (more on this later). On the Oceanic Air web site in the lower left hand corner there's a graphic that says "Visit ancient Australia." The foreground seems to be a primitive figure drawing (more on this later, too), but the background, though it looks fairly abstract at first blush, upon further scrutiny bears more than a passing resemblance to Ayer's Rock.

Okay, I know it's sketchy, but to me the graphic looks like a plateau rising from a green plain against a blue sky. Take that for what it's worth.

But wait, I'm not done--back to the primitive drawing. In Austrilia, primitive/ancient means Aborigine, and I vaguely remember learning in high school that Australian Aborigines believe that there are two worlds: the one where you are when you're awake, and the one where you are when you're dreaming. Each is as real as the other. Upon further research (the Wikipedia article Dreamtime is a good place to start), I think the previous statement is a crass oversimplifcation, but it still has some interesting parallels to other Lost theories we've seen. But the episode Dave definitely lends creedence to a collective Dreamtime theory. If anyone else wants to do more research on Dreamtime and try to see what other parallels can be drawn, I'd love to see it.

As won't surprise you, Uluru figures prominently in Aborigine myths, and to quote Wikipedia, "The local Anangu [the Aborigine tribe which owns the land] request that visitors not climb the rock, partly due to the path crossing an important dreaming track." I'm not sure what a "dreaming track," but I'd appreciate any help figuring it out.

Lastly, Uluru is also supposed to be some kind of magnetic hotspot. I can find lots of passing references to this online, but no good citations, but it's also heavily implied by Isaac of Uluru in the episode, and we're led to believe that The Island has similar magnetic properties.

Okay, I know that was long, so here's the rundown:

• Oceanic-air.com has a graphic promoting "Ancient Australia" with an Aborigine drawing and possibly a picture of Ayer's Rock/Uluru.
• Isaac of Uluru allegedly heals people (presumably) somewhere near, and by drawing power from, Uluru.
• Uluru might be a magnetic hotspot, much like The Island.
• Uluru also figures prominently in Aborigine "Dreamtime" myths and is on an Aboriginal "dreaming track."
• Dave tells Hurley that he, the Island, and its inhabitants are all in his head, i.e. dreams, and the appearance of Libby in the final flashback of the episode suggests (but does not prove) the same.

So.. 1) what do you think, and 2) how do we work this into the relevant articles? InterruptorJones 13:12, 17 April 2006 (PDT)

• • Okay, I'll have a shot. "Dreamtime" or "Dreaming" in indigenous Australian culture doesn't quite mean the same as it does in Western culture as being "asleep", it more translates to "In the beginning", sort of a Genesis or Creation legend, but then mixed with a kind of parallel, timeless existence on which every action of the present still leaves its mark. On the arrival of white settlers there were many thousands of indigenous nations in Australia, and there were - and still are - several variations. "Aborigine" is a fairly generic term - similar to "European", so there is no one creation legend you can actually point to.

"Dreaming" can also roughly translates to sacred tradition or law. There can be many reasons why a path or place equates to belonging to a tribe's dreaming. Interestingly enough, some of the major highways in Australia, particularly those around Melbourne and Sydney are built on old Dreaming paths. The early white explorers utilised the services of indigenous people to make the first surveyed trails, and of course the only way to go were the ways that the locals knew best. Treehouse 00:34, 28 May 2007 (PDT)

Rose *And* Bernard ?

I wonder if this a Rose flashback episode. Not a Rose & Bernard Episode

I agree. Rose was alone when she met with Isaac and when she saw Locke. -- Lostpedian 07:53, 19 April 2006 (PDT)

I have re-assessed it. The first two flashbacks seem to be Bernard's, showing his personality and motivation. The last two are Rose's. That said, not all Korean flashbacks should be classified as Sun & Jin --Jono4174 19:59, 25 April 2006 (PDT)

Something doesn't make sense.

If the island's healing properties work from approximately the same principle as Isaac, and people healed by Isaac stay healed even after they leave, then wouldn't Rose stay healed even if she left? 1.618033989

• No, I don't know who you are because you didn't sign your post. That is why Isaac couldn't heal her, because different places affect different people, so just because Isaac's patients stayed healed doesn't mean the island's would still be healed.--CaptainInsano 13:25, 12 September 2006 (PDT)

Please try to be civil. I was assuming, of course, that Isaac and the island function from the same kind of phenomenon. Also, wouldn't either Rose or Bernard have thought of this? 1.618033989 03:26, 15 September 2006 (PDT)

After five months, Bernard would know

In the Niagara Falls flashback, when Bernard asks Rose to marry him after they've been seeing one another for five months, Rose explains that she's dying. Bernard is so smashed that it seems like this is new to him. Yet Rose's hair suggest that her last chemo was two months ago, tops. That scene still strikes me as very odd. - Karin Spaink 17:32, 14 February 2007 (PST)

Why is Henry/Ben so gleeful, exactly?

Of course Henry/Ben is happy to see that he has sown the seeds of mistrust amongst the losties, but on re-watching this epidode, suddenly I wondered whether Henry/Ben *wanted* to button to be no longer pressed. As we now know, not pressing the button causes serious mayhem - the crashing of flight 815 being one of them. Do the Others _want_ things like this to happen? - Karin Spaink 17:41, 14 February 2007 (PST)

• There's evidence to suggest that Ben wanted it to happen. Not sure ALL of the Others did. Evil-pineapples 09:42, 27 May 2007 (PDT)

Policy

What's the policy regarding the episode articles and revealing information from later episodes? Wouldn't it be logical to keep the articles about an episodes clean of information from later episodes and only write about the actual episode and earlier episodes. If not there should be a spoiler warning on each page. One could want to read about an episode without revealing later episodes! / Dreamingtree72 12:43, 16 February 2008 (PST)

See (and participate) here: Lostpedia:Spoiler Policy (proposed) Robert K S 14:59, 16 February 2008 (PST)

I've read that, but I don't think it answers my question... but since it's a "proposed" policy I will move this discussion there! Thanks! / Dreamingtree72 15:39, 16 February 2008 (PST)