Contents 1 Rose is healed 2 Rose is special 3 Rose and the Monster's sounds 4 Not what healed her.... WHO healed her? 5 Last Name 6 Returning? 7 Daughter? 8 Flashback 9 Unanswered Question 10 Plot Goof - The Wedding Ring? 11 Monster and Rose 12 Hair 13 Which Status? 14 Not a main character? 15 She's a Minor character 16 Profile/Portal picture 17 Voting 18 Leaving

Rose is healed Edit

Do you think that because of the magnetic field, that is what may have curred Rose's illness. Kind of like a sort of radiation

Rose is special Edit

Alpert tells Locke that Ben is worried that the Others will believe Locke is special. As Rose was also healed by the island, Rose will become equally important to Ben and the Others.

• By not appearing in Season 3 until the last two episodes, this has been set up through Locke and Ben's interaction. A Podcast revealed that Rose and Bernard will have a major storyline, which would suggest a greater presence in season 4.
• Only Rose, Walt, Michael, and the Others know Locke was paralyzed before the plane crash.
• Only Rose, Bernard, and Locke do not want to be rescued.MixMasterMike 20:05, 8 May 2007 (PDT)MixMasterMike

Rose and the Monster's sounds Edit

I'd like to change a reference in this article. I don't think Rose said that the monster's sounds reminded her of the Bronx. Here's a transcript of that part of the first episode:

REDSHIRT: It didn't sound like an animal, not exactly.

ROSE: That sound that it made, I keep thinking that there was something really familiar about it.

REDSHIRT #2: Really? Where are you from?

ROSE: The Bronx.

In fact, the mechanical sounds being made by the monster at this point are the sounds of Oceanic Flight 815 crashing. In the first episode, a flashback in which the plane crashes (and in which Rose figures prominently) plays immediately before this exchange, giving the viewer a great opportunity to rehear the plane sound effects. Anyone with a DVD copy of this episode can compare the monster's sounds and Oceanic Flight 815 crashing for themselves.

So I'd like to change this statement (In Pilot, Part 1, she says that the sounds made by The Monster remind of where she used to live - The Bronx, New York.) to the following:

In Pilot, Part 1, she says that the sounds made by The Monster seem really familiar.

Any objections? Boloboffin 23:49, 4 June 2006 (PDT)

One of the sounds that the monster makes is very similar to the sound made when a reciept is being printed by NYC taxi cabs. This may be why it's familiar to her since she is from the Bronx. -fontgangsta

That's exactly what it was, fontgangsta. I remember reading it somewhere. Some interview with one of the writers. Now if i can just find that interview I can prove it... --Quigley

That taxicab receipt sound also sounds like the machines that used to print lottery tickets. I wonder about any connection to Hurley or the numbers. MixMasterMike 21:43, 5 May 2007 (PDT)MixMasterMike

Not what healed her.... WHO healed her? Edit

I am thinking Mr.eko, because when Bernard asked him if he had retrieved any african-american bodies from the water, he declined and said he would "pray for her" ... could this be the mystery behind her miraculous recovery?

• I don't know who you're because you didn't sign your post, but sorry to burst your bubble it is the island that fixed her. It has already been confirmed in the SOS episode.--CaptainInsano

Last NameEdit

The "Lost Magazine - Issue 7" reveals Rose and Bernard's surname to be Nadler.—The preceding unsigned comment was added by Obi-Dan Kenobi (talk • contribs) .

How did we get her name to be Henderson in the first place? THE MONSTER .

I don't know. I've looked pretty hard, reading all the Rose-centric transcripts. I don't see Henderson anywhere. Until some attributes it, I'm taking it off. (Jack Dutton 00:57, March 2, 2010 (UTC))

It's all over about.com and IGN that way, but there's no clear source (maybe they purloined it from here). L. Scott Caldwell's IMDB has it as Nadler everywhere. Did you also fix wikipedia? It was Henderson on there as well but was recently changed. (Mirth23 02:01, March 2, 2010 (UTC))

• An edit from 2006 cites Lost Magazine Issue 7 for the Henderson maiden name. Does anyone have a copy? --LeoChris 03:19, March 2, 2010 (UTC)
  • I have a copy. There's a section in the magazine in which a short bio is given for each main character (plus Rose and Bernard). Rose is listed as Rose Henderson and Bernard is listed as Bernard Nadler. --SethFlight815 18:00, March 28, 2010 (UTC)

This all might seem trivial, but Nadler is noticeably absent from the lists of candidates. She or Bernard may appear at another time on candidate list. I thinks its a huge oversight that two people that want to stay on the Island are not considered candidates. Rose and Bernard would be the perfect counterparts to Jacob and MIB. (Jack Dutton 15:52, March 2, 2010 (UTC))

For what it's worth, Henderson is on the list. --LeoChris 22:20, March 2, 2010 (UTC)

I think that's why a few people noticed that there doesn't appear to be any canon source for her maiden name being Henderson... (Mirth23 22:26, March 2, 2010 (UTC))

Exactly. There are several prominent numbers without identified candidates. Eliminating Rose as a candidate requires attributing her to a non-canonical last name. It is just as accurate to say that "Nadler" is #9 as it is to say that "Henderson" is Rose. (Jack Dutton 18:24, March 3, 2010 (UTC))

Returning?Edit

Are there any sources out there that confirm that Rose (and Bernard) are ever returning? Because I really miss Rose (and Bernard) and I'd like to see her (and him) back on the show. So can anybody find any sources that state that they're going to return any time soon? --Kbmusiclover 7:17, 9 April 2007 (PDT)

Daughter? Edit

One of the unanswered Qs asks who her daughter is. I vaguely remember a reference to one, but I don't recall where. Can someone jog my memory? And maybe add a crossref.--TechNic|talk|conts 20:07, 18 May 2007 (PDT)

I think it was from a deleted scene. She says her daughter 'had passed'. Since it's deleted, I'm not sure that question should really be there. Blackannis 13:23, 23 May 2007 (PDT)

FlashbackEdit

Should we add a flashback characters link like the main survivors have. She did have a flashback episode. --Gluphokquen Gunih ▲ 12:02, 21 May 2007 (PDT)

• You mean the Pilot appearence. Well since the Pilot was a shared flashback for three characters, I suppose you could. Dont know?
  • The flashback was "S.O.S.".--Phil (talk) 06:53, 26 May 2007 (PDT)

Unanswered QuestionEdit

"How did Rose know that the tail section people were alive?"

Surely this is a case of her 'believing' or having faith that her husband had survived? It's not some kind of mystery and we won't get an 'answer' to it, so it doesn't really belong...Liquidcow 08:56, 22 June 2007 (PDT)

Plot Goof - The Wedding Ring?Edit

LOST is remarkably good at keeping its story sorted out considering how complex it is, but I'm a little bummed to think I've found one rather glaring problem with Rose and Bernard's story. In Walkabout, she tells Jack "Bernard's fingers always swell when we fly so finally I just decided to wear his ring on my neck", but in S.O.S. we learn they were on 815 flying back from their none-too-successful honeymoon. So...unless they did a lot of flying before their marriage, and unless Bernard had a wedding ring before they were married...you see where I'm going with this? Unless they did a lot of flying between their marriage and their honeymoon, but then it'd be weird to delay the honeymoon. Or am I missing something here? --Cyhunter 01:01, 22 February 2008 (PST)

Post-script: I did come up with one possible explaination, but it's a bit of a stretch. We know Rose lives in Brooklyn and considers New York her home. It is thus likely that when they first left for Australia, it was from the East Coast, and considering the rotation of the Earth and geography, that they would have flown eastwards over Europe, thus necessitating layovers along the way. (And although 815 was Sydney-to-LAX and thus a one-stop trip, there's no reason to assume that Rose and Bernard weren't then planning to take another plane back to the East Coast.) In this manner, it is easy to quickly become an "old hat" at flying with someone and the effects of high-altitude finger-swelling. Thus, it is not entirely unbelievable that Rose would use the phrase "His hands swell up whenever we fly...", although not so much "He started having me hold on to his wedding ring whenever we took a plane trip", which indicates multiple vacations entirely. At this point, you have to start falling back on the old "they're delirious from shock" excuse, but it'll have to do, I suppose.

One single leg of New York to stopover airport to LAX to Sydney would be sufficient for Rose to have first-hand experience Bernard's swollen hands (especially since LAX to SYD is about 13 hours one way, and they were on their return trip when the crash happened). However, another reasonable thought might be Bernard flew a lot in his life before Rose, and knew his hands swell from flying, fullstop. Add his wedding ring, and you have the pain of swollen fingers, plus the cutting off of circulation. It's not a goof, IMO. -- LOSTonthisdarnisland 10:53, 24 April 2008 (PDT)

Monster and Rose Edit

Danflave added the UQ "Why did the the 'Monster' sound 'awfully familiar' to Rose?" My guess is it was just part of the elaborate in-joke surrounding the use of the NYC taxicab receipt printer sound effect as the Monster's "chitter". See Official Lost Podcast transcript/May 21, 2007. Robert K S (talk) 18:24, 23 April 2008 (PDT)

That's correct. Damarlton confirmed it on a podcast or audio commentary or something. --Blueeagleislander 18:48, 23 April 2008 (PDT)

Any sort of actual confirmation or citation on this? I still maintain this is an UQ. I may need to review, but I don't believe the "chitter" sound effect even played during this particular scene. Danflave 15:16, 14 May 2008 (PDT)

P.S. I read the transcript from May 21st and see no indication that Rose's comment was a conscious "in joke" related to the taxi sound. Danflave 15:20, 14 May 2008 (PDT)

Hair Edit

Sometime between S.O.S and Greatest Hits Rose changed her hairstyle. Ok, so I'm no expert, but is it even possible to get hair like that in such a primitave standard of living. I know they had all the Dharma stuff and the pallet, but HOW do you get hair like that. I was just wondering if it was possible. User:Lostcloverfield42

The most likely explanation is the unseen red shirt, Margery did it. Cuse and Lindelof have joked about her a few times, it will probably never be answered. But if it was this would be the most likely reason. --The Whsipers 14:40, 10 August 2008 (PDT)

Which Status? Edit

Now that the freighter exploded, on which she was supposed to be (she was taken there by Miles), which status can she take? Can we count her as dead or rather as unknown status? Gfz12 11:36, 31 May 2008 (PDT)

Good question. Even if she managed to abandon ship prior to the explosion with a life preserver on, she'd be stranded in the middle of the ocean with no nearby land, no provisions, no watercraft... Robert K S (talk) 11:51, 31 May 2008 (PDT)

• Umm you do remember her saying she was staying on the island? We never saw her on the boat in the episode nor did we see her in the last group on zodiac raft that never made it to ship due to its destruction. Her status should be alive, but her whereabouts unknown due to the island's moving. --The Cartographer 11:57, 31 May 2008 (PDT)

Not a main character? Edit

Someone deleted my trivia item about Rose and Sawyer being the last main characters still at the camp. Is Rose not considered a main character? If Nikki and Paulo were considered main characters, then how could Rose and Bernard not be? --CurlyHairedGuy 13:12, 7 June 2008 (PDT)

Its because Nikki & Paulo were intended to have much larger parts in the Season, it was their unpopularity that meant they had premature deaths, therefore they were planned to be main stars because we'd have seen a lot more of them. Whereas Rose and Bernard were always intended to be reccurring. --The Whsipers 14:41, 10 August 2008 (PDT)

She's a Minor characterEdit

"Rose is the only minor character that was inside the hatch." What about Kelvin? :P And Desmond was a guest star when he was in it...now, minor survivor maybe...--Golden Monkey 21:34, November 25, 2009 (UTC)

But Desmond, was in season 3 a main character, so minor = main. But Kelvin that's another one. Maybe Rose is not the only minor character.--Station7 21:37, November 25, 2009 (UTC)

Well he was a minor character when he was first seen in it...also they said that everyone had a shift planned, so even though we mostly only saw Jack and Locke bickering like school children in there it's possible more people were in there. --Golden Monkey 23:33, November 25, 2009 (UTC)

Profile/Portal picture Edit

Can we please change Rose's profile and portal picture? She looks absolutely horrible in the picture that's in use now. The actress is much more attractive than she looks in the current picture. I propose using the picture I've added here, which in its full size is appropriate to use as a profile picture. I've also uploaded a cropped version of the picture that is the appropriate size for the portal picture. This proposed profile picture here is actual used for the Rose Nadler article in [the Hungarian wikipedia]. As a mixed black woman myself, I actuallly really feel strongly about this, as the beauty standard for women that is generally the most valued in Western society is already that of caucasian women; so I would really like for the main picture of the most prominent black woman on the show to not be so unattractive. I mean, we all take bad pictures every once and a while, but I feel that there's really no reason to continue to use the current photograph. --—   lion of dharma    talk    email   19:51, April 5, 2010 (UTC)

No, just no. She's already older. She's three older on the new picture. That was from season 1. This one is from season 5. I 100% disagree.--Station7 19:53, April 5, 2010 (UTC)

Your right she looks bad but thats the point shes three years older and has been living in a shack for three years. The wear and tear is part of her character. If there is a good picture then the newer pics should always win over older ones. -- B1G CZYGS  Talk  Contribs  21:17, April 5, 2010 (UTC)

So does this mean we should go and change all of the characters' pictures so that they are more current? Because many of them are also quite dated. -- —   lion of dharma    talk    email   20:05, April 5, 2010 (UTC)

Actually this means nothing for every character. It's 2 against 1 if you not have a better picture from Rose in season 5?--Station7 20:07, April 5, 2010 (UTC)

• Argh, I just looked at the picture of Bernard from last season and I guess he's got the scruffy look for last Season as well. I just hate that she looks so horrible in this picture. The woman is so much more attractive.

And how does this mean nothing about every character's profile, Station 7? my point is that her profile should be held to the same standard as everyone else. And 2 against one over the time span of 5 minutes is really not something to point out. Anyway, I'll look for a better picture from last season later. I have to go now. --—   lion of dharma    talk    email   20:11, April 5, 2010 (UTC)

But use never an old picture!--Station7 20:15, April 5, 2010 (UTC)

Her profile is held to the same standard if there is a newer picture it is always used. Please name some examples of when the newer pic isnt used. My examples are Walt, Widmore, Penny, All the Main characters. They are all either from recent episodes or the last ones they appeared in. -- B1G CZYGS  Talk  Contribs  21:17, April 5, 2010 (UTC)

Added by Lionofdharma

I found another picture, it's from her last appearance. They really did make an effort to make R&B look like crap in that episode, because this one isn't fantastic either, but at least she's smiling. Is it always the case that the portal pic is a crop of the profile pic? If not, I have an image that would be great to use as the portal pic that is also from her last appearance (but wouldn't work as a profile pic because it is wider than it is long), but I think the portal pic is usually a crop of the main one. Just thought I'd ask. -- —   lion of dharma    talk    email   08:11, April 6, 2010 (UTC)

Added by Lionofdharma

Here's another one, just not sure if it's too much of a close-up. ok, I'm done. -- —   lion of dharma    talk    email   08:38, April 6, 2010 (UTC)

I like that second one! It's so much better than the current one--SuperJar 11:30, April 6, 2010 (UTC)

Good job. I choose to the second one.--Station7 11:58, April 6, 2010 (UTC)

Yay! I'll go change it. Poor Bernard, I think I might go find a new pic for him too. :-) -- —   lion of dharma    talk    email   20:33, April 6, 2010 (UTC)

• Not that I want to create a huge argument, but Rose and Bernard's profile pictures should go back to the way they were. The pictures worked fine. Besides, all the other supporting characters, with the exception of Sarah, make use of promotional photos. These pictures are often higher resolution, and have certain look to them. For consistencies sake, I think they need to be changed back. -- LostCloverfield42  Talk  05:17, April 7, 2010 (UTC)

• The previous images used were crops from screencaps from The Incident, as are the new ones. And I have proof of that if I'm not believed. So what's the problem? If you want me to upload them again at an even higher resolution, then I'm perfectly fine with that. --—   lion of dharma    talk    email   06:03, April 7, 2010 (UTC)

• The previous pictures of Rose and Bernard we not screencaps, they were promotional photos. All the rest of the recurring characters have promotional photos for their character image. -- LostCloverfield42  Talk  17:19, April 7, 2010 (UTC)

But I have to say it Lion of dharma, but I like the old pictures, more then this one. Her head is to big.--Station7 17:22, April 7, 2010 (UTC)

• Like I said, LostCloverfield, they are cropped screencaps. Did you even read my comment? I'll go find the screencaps for you now. --—   lion of dharma    talk    email   17:39, April 7, 2010 (UTC)

I can't find the screenshots online right now, and really can't afford any more time to look for them, but I swore I saw them the other day. There is always, of course, the chance that I was wrong, as we all are sometimes. That said, Sarah is not the only supporting character to have screenshots as profile images. So do mikhail, diane, horace, jason, karl, and naomi. Then there's 4 characters whose profile pictures are not marked as either screenshots or promotional pictures: phil, carmen, nadia, and anthony cooper. In the case that you decide to be absolutely inflexible about this, then the picture above with her holding the bowl is indeed a promotional picture. I really can't see any argument you can give for not using that one, since it adheres to your oh so strict rules.

And Station7, thanks for changing your mind all of the sudden. I'll keep in mind you're not always sincere. -- —   lion of dharma    talk    email   18:40, April 7, 2010 (UTC)

I did that for you. But from you we have to change the picture immediality. Well that's my meaning. From Bernard, OK tha'picture is better then from Rose. But here I already told you truth from the beginning. I only said that picture 2 was better. I was not lying. No! Just telling the truth. Maybe you didn't understand it.--Station7 18:46, April 7, 2010 (UTC)

Completely reverted Bernard, changed Rose to new promotional picture --—   lion of dharma    talk    email   20:13, April 7, 2010 (UTC)

• The one being used now is hideous. We should use the one from the side of her face. It's not an accuracy issue. Rose may look "bad" in her look since leaving the beach but the least we can do is use a flattering shot. Alexisfan07 June 8, 2010

VotingEdit

To make results quicker, who agrees with reverting Rose's profile/portal photo to her headshot from "The Incident, Part 1"?

•  ODK  Talk  Sandbox  22:21, April 7, 2010 (UTC)
• I'd love to know the reason why you're voting to keep it, ODK. The policy of using a promo picture is being followed. So please explain your reasoning behind it. -- —   lion of dharma    talk    email   22:36, April 7, 2010 (UTC)
  • Because a profile picture should feature the character in great detail. This image might show her entirely, but not in a big and centered way. She seems too far away, while the other picture shows her entire upper body with her face in detail.  ODK  Talk  Sandbox  22:37, April 7, 2010 (UTC)
• Use the promo picture headshot. -- LostCloverfield42  Talk  02:52, April 8, 2010 (UTC)
• So far as I've read, no one has given reason sufficient for using the headshot. The only real argument goes to consistency, and lionofdharma has given a number of examples showing other characters with non-headshot promo pictures on their pages; which leaves that argument out.--Mittelman 04:27, April 8, 2010 (UTC)

• The reason those characters do not have promo pics for their profile is because they do not have promo pics of them. When a promo picture is available that is what is used. -- LostCloverfield42  Talk  04:39, April 8, 2010 (UTC)
• Then my point stands: you have no consistency. If randomly using the promo pic based on availability satisfies you, why the objection here? Simply because another promo pic exists? Besides, if it's a question of promo pics, lionofdharma provided the above which meet that criteria. So this is just a popularity vote?--Mittelman 05:44, April 8, 2010 (UTC)

• I'm not trying to be argumentative, but what do you mean I have no consistency? If a promo picture is available for a character, then we use said picture. If not, a screen capture is used. The previous promo picture of Rose worked well. The problem I have with this new promo picture, is that it is too far away to give Rose any detail. -- LostCloverfield42  Talk  05:53, April 8, 2010 (UTC)

• Consistency from page to page can't be maintained if promo pics don't exist for every character - that's all I meant. Not that you lack consistency. I see this is just a difference in viewpoints. I find the new picture detailed enough.--Mittelman 06:49, April 8, 2010 (UTC)

• --Destinedjourney 20:27, April 8, 2010 (UTC)How do I vote? I don't know where to make the plus/minus mark but I vote negative. I like the shot that has Rose holding the bowl of fruit. If a picture is supposed to convey the character than that one does it best--Destinedjourney 15:51, April 8, 2010 (UTC)
• I don't like this picture. It's the worst of the three. That means that I agree with Obi-Dan-Kenobi. --Station7 20:44, April 8, 2010 (UTC)

• In the interest of fairness, Station7, I should point out that means you should have used the symbol. Even though you're not voting the way I did. :)--Mittelman 23:22, April 8, 2010 (UTC)

• I have done it Mittelman.--Station7 21:23, April 10, 2010 (UTC)

• old one reasons above —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Czygan84 (talk • contribs) 2010-06-07T18:32:00.

LeavingEdit

Rose is not the only mid section survivor to not leave the Island. Boone, Shannon, ..etc.

However, she is the only SURVIVING mid sectioner not to leave. Four4elements 04:54, May 31, 2010 (UTC)