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Die Hard

Why people who scape the island can´t be killed? Remember Tom saying to Michael he can´t die until he return to the island? And Ben can´t kill Widmore (and either can Widmore kill Ben) off the island? Strange... this makes Walt, Widmore, Eloise and Desmond immortals? --Harrare 19:17, 14 August 2009 (UTC)

Pregnancies

Shouldn't the the occurrences of pregnant women dying be included on this page?--Enzo ValenzettiEnzo-Valenzetti 14:26, 17 June 2007 (PDT)22.26 16th June 2007

A New/Old Mystery?

I have searched the site and have not found a link or write up in regard to the electrical tubing leading from the ocean, to the beach, and up to Danielle Rousseau's (old) camp, as found by Sayid (& Hurley?). Should the link come off of the theory of the underwater station The Flame? Or should it be a mysterious portal? I think it bears mentioning either way, but I'm new, and thought I should ask.

Namaste,
--Jess angell 13:58, 24 May 2006 (PDT)


This http://lostpedia.com/wiki/Cable ?—The preceding unsigned comment was added by Moogle (talk • contribs) .

  • I agree.

Daka 09:19, 17 May 2008 (PDT)

Color coding

I think the colors should go like this: Red-unsolved yellow- Partially solved green- solved --Tehfrog 21:55, 3 May 2009 (UTC)

why did the directors mess up the timeline for the crash?

the flight departed sydney in the afternoon. if you look at hugo's ticket on the oceanic booking screen I think it was schedule for 2:55pm.

from the pilot the radio went out when they were six hours in, they turned back to land in Fiji. When they hit turbulence they were 1000 miles off course. Implying, of course, 8 hours into the flight (Assuming 500mph).

For compmarison purposes, If you go to qantas and check QF391 it departs Sydney at 13:10 and arrives local time Fiji 18:55. about 7pm. So a 2 hour later flight would arrive in Fiji around 9pm. If they "turned back to land in fiji" it should be nightfall., probably around midnight.

for the month of september: sunset is around 6pm. http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/astronomy.html?n=82&obj=sun&month=9&year=2006&day=1


when the plane crashes on the island it appears to be mid afternoon.


--Slamkal 11:26, 3 June 2006 (PDT)

  • The island has a time dialitaion effect thing going on, so it could be that it was night when they crashed, but on the island its still day.

Daka 09:18, 17 May 2008 (PDT)

"is his father in the island?"

this is the question that desmond said to claire in "live together.." pointing aaron...and i think: why ask this? (since it is not a common question to do, in order to be the first contact...) notice about it: the others are interested in the father-son relation of michael-walt... and they, now have the list with four people: jack (his father is on the island; dead, but he is on it) kate (his father is militar....and there are a lot of military-realation with the people on the island...maybe he is on it) hugo and sawyer.......hum....i don`t know.....—The preceding unsigned comment was added by Fuzter lost (talk • contribs) .

Pictures

Anyone like what I did with the pictures and stuff?--Peephole 09:10, 25 July 2006 (PDT)

Yeah but the discharge one is a bit bright, just looks white. There isn't really much of an alternative though I'll grant. Overall looks pretty damn cool --Nickb123 (Talk) 02:22, 7 August 2006 (PDT)

Island

uh....shouldn't the island be included here? i mean come on guys--Two Coyotes 01:27, 4 August 2006 (PDT) I don't have the ability to upload a picture, but if someone would put the island on the article page, again I'd really appreciate it.--Two Coyotes 23:08, 17 September 2006 (PDT)

I was just wondering if it should be included, because it's the place where most of the other mysterious things are happening, I thought it was kind of covered already. That's all. Someone else is welcome to upload if they feel differently, I guess. --PandoraX 23:38, 17 September 2006 (PDT)

This page could do with a few additions, I reckon...

As someone said, "The Island" itself is a mystery. Where is it? How do you get there? Why can't people leave?

Then, what about Walt's special abilities?

Also, doesn't Desmond deserve a page of his own for his premonitions? Because they're hardly comparable to the dreams that other characters have had.—The preceding unsigned comment was added by DHARMA Chief (talk • contribs) .

The Mittelos Bioscience

The Mittelos Bioscience should be added as a new mistery since its already on the main page.—The preceding unsigned comment was added by Jakovexc0 (talk • contribs) .

Dude, I just though Mittelos Bioscience was a front company for recruiting for the Others. What's so mysterious about that? RandomKM 08:30, 11 June 2009 (UTC)

Connections to each other

Loads of the characters have had crossovers before they were on the island. There are too many to mention at the moment but dosent anyone else think this is a bit mysterious? Its all a bit much to be a coincidence I think. - H4eafy

Patchy

Nickname Eyepatch name should be replaced with Patchy's real name - Mikhail Bakunin.—The preceding unsigned comment was added by Jakovexc0 (talk • contribs) .

The Man From Tallahassee

Anthony Cooper's appearance on the island is one of the most mysterious events ever on the show. Mention should be made of him, or at least the box.--MacCruiskeen 07:26, 26 March 2007 (PDT)

  • Totally agree. Answers to "The Box" might be forthcoming nearer to the end of this Season, but this is one mystery that should totally be added. -mr_tee_canada
  • Seconded that. We're about to start the 5th season now and the "box" it's still a big mistery. Maokun 10:47, 18 January 2009 (UTC)

I didn't think this was that mysterious. Ben told Tom to get the man from Tallehasse. Pretty sure what happened was that was a code name for Cooper. So an Other travelled to the island, crashed Anthony's car and brought him to the island. RandomKM 08:38, 11 June 2009 (UTC)

Agreed. Cooper explained what happened. Someone wrecked into him and the last thing he remembed was a man smiling at him after he woke up and being injected with something. It's clear the Others were behind it. As for the box, it's been confirmed by both Ben and Darlton that it's just a metaphor.

Eko's Brother

Can we change "Eko's Brother" to "Yemi"? I using names is a better approach --Mr. Crabby (Talk) 13:47, 8 April 2007 (PDT)

  • Absolutely agree with this one too. We should be specific on names and such... we are a wiki, after all! -mr_tee_canada

Jacob

After this episode, The Man Behind The Curtain, I really think we should put Jacob as a mistery, since he can be invisible.

  • Jacob is without a doubt a good candidate for mysterious happenings. Arrowoftime 12:55, 10 May 2007 (PDT)

I see dead people

I would like to nominate that several of the existing Mysteries be consolidated into one: that is, Visions (including dialogue with) of people that are believed to be dead. This would include Jack's father (Christian Shephard), Eko's brother (Yemi), and Ben's Mother. These are people that are either known or widely accepted to be dead, and the Island's living relatives have clear visions and conversations with.--Timbenj77 09:05, 10 May 2007 (PDT)

I agree with this, but would like to have a section for Visions, not just visions of dead people. I nominate to include Dave and Kate's horse. Also, can we delete mysteries that have been explained, such as the Polar Bears? -- RandomStranger

I totally agree, but the session could be about people who have visions, and that would include Jack (his father), Hurley (Dave and the bird), Eko (Yemi and Ana-Lucia), Kate (her horse), Desmond (flashes)and Ben (his mother). Maybe also Locke (Is Jacob a vision?)

Walt

Just about everything about Walt is weird and mysterious.--Overdubbed 19:55, 3 February 2008 (PST)

Update

This portal is in serious need of an update. With the Season 3 finale looming there have been so many new mysteries incorporated into the show, and so many old ones resolved that this is starting to look very outdated.


Here are some suggestions, which I think should at least be considered:


Remove:

Distress Signal - Why is this still considered a mystery? It was Rousseau, that's all there is to it.

Polar Bears - This has been pretty well resolved. Dharma kept bears, Dharma was killed off.

Button Pushing - Season 2 finale explained the purpose behind the button. It's not a mystery anymore

Orientation Films - Again, not sure what the mystery is here. They are films created to explain the work of the Dharma stations.

Shark - Answered in same fashoin as polar bears.

Numbers? - Not too sure about this one but TLE did explain what they meant, their origin etc. They are still quite mysterious though.

Merge:

Healing and miracles - Aren't these pretty much one and the same?

Christian and Yemi - With Ben's mother and the appearance of Boone and Ana-Lucia in visions I think that a more fitting category would be "encounters with the dead" or something similar.

Horse - While not a merge in itself, the horse is one of a series of similar encouters. A seperate link is probably warranted for these.

Dave? - Possibly an encounter like the above. Again, am unsure about this one.

Add:

Widmore - Widmore is just as prominent and mysterious as Hanso now.

Jacob - With TMBTC, I'd say that Jacob is more than just an "Other". Jacob is a whole mystery in his own right.

Dissapearance of 815 - This is one of the most prominent mysteries in the show now.

Cooper - He may be dead, but Cooper's appearance on the island is an un-explained mystery that probably warrants a mention.


These are just some suggestions. I'm sure there are other changes which are equally warranted. Either way this is seriously outdated.


--Paulus2 09:05, 11 May 2007 (GMT)

  • I agree that a lot of mysteries are curiously absent from this page, but I don't think mysteries that have been explained should be removed. Rather, a design overhaul is needed. I propose a table design more like the one in Portal:Transportation and Portal:Items, but with a a colour scheme to denote if a mystery has been explained (for example: green background on the entry if it has been explained, red background if it hasn't - sort of like the accomplished/failed backgrounds in A-Missions and O-Missions). MacCruiskeen 09:39, 13 May 2007 (PDT)
  • I think the biggest mystery that needs to be added is the disappearance of 815 (which was mentioned above). BETTYFIZZW (Talk) 18:18, 18 June 2007 (PDT)

agree--Connor401 06:08, 3 September 2007 (PDT)


  • Yeah, a HUGE update is needed here, not to mention the pics that illustrate the various categories...and are all wrong! (for instance a polar bear instead of the pillar of smoke) - TheAma1 14:33, 4 February 2008 (PST)
  • I agree a big update is needed. One of the biggest mysteries to me at the moment is the discovered wreckage of 815 and why the outside world thinks everyone is dead. I dont really have any experience in editing wikis so if anyone could volunteer i think it'd help!

I do keep wondering why some stuff is on here as a mystery when it isn't really. Dave, the Hurley Bird and Kates Horse are really linked in with Visions and Dreams and unlike things like the Statue (which we know is going to come back) they only occured in one episode (well Dave did, can't remember if the Hurley Bird and Kates Horse made more appearances).Wild ste 07:55, 20 February 2008 (PST)

  • agree, can some one try and unlock this, or update this.

Daka 09:22, 17 May 2008 (PDT)

Eyes

i have noted that charictures eyes change color, this should be added as a section.

New Format - DESPERATELY NEEDS PICTURES

I've updated this page to the new Portal format, plus included a bunch of mysteries that were missing. I'm sure I'm missing a few things still so feel free to add anything. I've also added a "Solved"/"Unsolved" template so that we don't have to argue about removing any mysteries once they've been solved. The major thing, though, is that we need new pictures for all the mysteries listed (even the ones that currently have pictures, because they're being stretched). I'll work on some of them, but if anyone would like to help, that'd be great. The template uses images that are 123 pixels wide and 90 pixels high. Thanks and I hope you like the new structure. :)  Jimbo the Tubby  talk  contributions  17:37, 10 June 2008 (PDT)

    • I did two, but for some reason the images are blurred.... anyone know why? I did the dimensions exactly as you specified, Jimbo. New format looks good by the way. :)--  Lost Soul   talk  contribs  01:50, 11 June 2008 (PDT)
      • Thanks. :) I looked at your two images that you did (the Hatch and the Cable if I'm not mistaken) and they don't look blurry to me, at least no more than could be expected for non-HD screencaps that have been shrunken. Good stuff!  Jimbo the Tubby  talk  contributions  02:01, 11 June 2008 (PDT)

Haha, I totally thought "Claire's message" was from the season 4 finale. I totally forgot about the seagull :p--Halcohol 12:46, 11 June 2008 (PDT)

  • Haha same here, until I clicked on the image. :p Hence me changing the photo (too confusing!) - TheAma1 15:12, 11 June 2008 (PDT)

Wow, that came together really fast. Thanks for the help with the pictures, that was great. Can anybody think of any mysteries that we're missing? There were a few in my head last night but when I went to write them down, they were gone.  Jimbo the Tubby  talk  contributions  13:29, 11 June 2008 (PDT)

  • I reorganised the mysteries in each category in the order in which they arrived in the show and/or were mentionned for the 1st time (hence the black rock in 1st position - let's not forget "le rocher noir" in the distress signal of Rousseau at the end of Pilot Part II). - TheAma1 15:37, 11 June 2008 (PDT)

Looks great, nice job! Robert K S (talk) 17:57, 11 June 2008 (PDT)

The fake Flight 815 should definitely be added. Andris22 08:23, 18 June 2008 (PDT)

Page got messed up

I dunno what happened, I'll assume that it was an accident, but somebody went and reordered all the mysteries alphabetically, arranged the images to be rows of less than 5, and (worst of all) changed half of the pictures into images that were stretched or distorted, as well as getting rid of one of the sections altogether. I've restored it to a previous version, I just wanted to leave a message saying that it happened.  Jimbo the Tubby  talk  contributions  20:10, 18 June 2008 (PDT)

The Temple -- Solved?

The Temple has a green box around it, implying we know what it is. I don't recall seeing it or hearing anything about it except that it is where the others were hiding.--Lost Logos 01:31, 20 June 2008 (PDT)

  • You are right. It's not solved at all. I changed it. --Anfield Fox 01:37, 20 June 2008 (PDT)

That was my bad, I copied and pasted the char portal and forgot to change the once letter that determines colour. Thanks for fixing it.  Jimbo the Tubby  talk  contributions  12:24, 20 June 2008 (PDT)

Horace

The dimensions of the image for horace is messed up. It needs a new image. --   Connor401    talk    contribs    email   16:41, 21 June 2008 (PDT)

Working on it! -- Sam McPherson  T  C  E  16:47, 21 June 2008 (PDT)
What should the proper dimensions of the images be?--   Connor401    talk    contribs    email   16:49, 21 June 2008 (PDT)
Fixed. And for all AA portals, the dimensions are 122x90 pixels.-- Sam McPherson  T  C  E  16:52, 21 June 2008 (PDT)
123x90, actually... Though it probably wouldn't matter that much.  Jimbo the Tubby  talk  contributions  15:21, 22 June 2008 (PDT)
...no, 122 is correct. See Image:Portal-Sawyer.jpg, Image:Portal-Jack.jpg, Image:Portal-Locke.jpg-- Sam McPherson  T  C  E  15:34, 22 June 2008 (PDT)

Huh... looking at the source code for the portal, it specifies 123x90 on the div tag and 122 on the actual image width. Is this an error or am I just reading it wrong?  Jimbo the Tubby  talk  contributions  15:44, 22 June 2008 (PDT)

I'm not sure. But the dimensions are definitely 122x90.-- Sam McPherson  T  C  E  15:50, 22 June 2008 (PDT)


Colours

Trafilights again enyone?red, oragne and green? --Rbfskywalker 08:32, 24 June 2008 (PDT)

Also

The Food drop has not been solved. - Inspirator 03:58, 30 June 2008 (PDT)

Juliet and Goodwin

Since when is Juliet and Goodwin a mystery?-- Orhan94  Talk  Contribs  16:09, 9 July 2008 (PDT)

  • I agree with Orhan. Juliet and Goodwin is no more of a mystery than Jack and Kate. Removed until verifiable evidence is presented to prove that it is indeed a mystery. -- Sam McPherson  T  C  E  16:20, 9 July 2008 (PDT)

Mysteries

I don't think Jack's tattoo's are a mystery, I think that Naomi and Charlie also have them. And aren't Basra, Tampa and the collapsing deck mysteries? And shouldn't we merge the kidnappings on the Others sub-section (Alex's, Claire's, Anthony's, Cindy's and Walt's)?-- Orhan94  Talk  Contribs  09:12, 26 July 2008 (PDT)

Agreed with Basra and Tampa, but not with the collapsing deck. As for Jack's tattoos, they were treated as a mystery by the producers (who announced all throughout the beginning of season 3 that we would finally be getting their origin story). As for the kidnappings, I don't really think it's necessary to make a subsection, it seems like it would clutter the page. Also, a public service announcement to people: you have to actually make images for these portals. You can't just stick whatever image in there you want, (especially screencaps, which seem to be popular) because the dimensions will not be right. The images should be 122x90 pixels.  Jimbo the Tubby  talk  contributions  16:40, 26 July 2008 (PDT)

Image Sizes

Please, people, for the last time, please make sure that the images you use are 122x90 pixels. Otherwise the portals look wrong because the images don't scale properly. Currently we need new images for:

  • No images are known to need fixing at this time.

Thanks.  Jimbo the Tubby  talk  contributions  11:02, 28 July 2008 (PDT)

If you are unsure how to do this just put it up how it already is and post it in the list above. I have this page watched and frequently monitor it for these problems I will fix any that i see. --   Connor401    talk    contribs    email   11:29, 28 July 2008 (PDT)


Need new pictures for the vision of Jin in the chicken costume, and Ray's corpse.  Jimbo the Tubby  talk  contributions  10:30, 1 November 2008 (PDT)

I'm seeing now that some images don't scale right. We are updating our version of this portal in PT-LP here, and we changed those images to better ones. Get them there, if you want :) -- Lucas Benicá | Talk | Email | 17:16, 7 August 2009 (UTC)

Colors

I think that RED/PINK should be for UNSOLVED (cause green is for solved) and ORANGE/YELLOW for PARTIALLY SOLVED. It is a bit confusing the way it is now. --   Steff    talk    contribs    email   05:52, 15 August 2008 (PDT)

Disagree, but it might just be that I'm used to it the way it is. I dunno.  Jimbo the Tubby  talk  contributions  00:18, 16 August 2008 (PDT)

Partially disagree I'm really used to this system, and the contrast of the colors really does not matter.-- Orhan94  Talk  Contribs  00:26, 16 August 2008 (PDT)

The Arrow disscusion

  • I think that we should have a disscusion on the subject of how we should treat the Arrow, is it a unanswered, answered or partially answered mystery. It will be far better to reach a concensus here rather than having a edit war on the article.-- Orhan94  Talk  Contribs  02:51, 16 October 2008 (PDT)

To the people claiming it is partially/fully answered: what exactly has been answered about it? We do not know its purpose, nor the reason for the items that were placed there. I can't think of anything that *has* been explained about this station.  Jimbo the Tubby  talk  contributions  00:11, 17 October 2008 (PDT)

A mix up

How come Runway is placed under Island mysteries, and the Whispers are listed as a the Others' mystery?-- Orhan94  Talk  Contribs  11:38, 25 October 2008 (PDT)

I think initially the Whispers were an Island mystery, but then people decided that they were closely associated with the Others and so moved it there (on a personal note, I don't agree). Not sure on the Runway, though... I think that'd be pretty solidly an Others' mystery.  Jimbo the Tubby  talk  contributions  17:28, 25 October 2008 (PDT)


Charles Widmore

I believe he really needs to be added to the "Off the Island" section. I mean, here we have a person who claims to be the legal and original owner of the island, who seems to know a lot about its secrets and who probably knows more about Ben than anyone else. I'd add it myself but I'm not sure how to do it. Maokun 10:54, 18 January 2009 (UTC)

some mysteries

1. I don't think we should list "The Elizabeth" as a mystery per the fact that we know everything there is to know about it: Belongs to David, David dies, Libby gets the boat, Libby gives it to Desmond, Desmond uses it to participate in Widmore's challenge, Desmond gets to the Island with it, Kelvin gets his hands on it and uses it to try and escape the Island, Desmonds takes it and tries to escape the Island, doesn't successed, Sayid, Sun and Jin use it to go to the Decoy Village, they are later attacked by Coleen's team and after Sun shoots Coleen in the Elizabeth, the Others take it. If there's something unanswered about it that's probably the time it was a possesion of David's, and that's all covered in Libby's past, and if it really was a mystery at one point then we should list it as answered.
2. Rename Visions to Dreams and Visions and add Charlie's dreams from Character mysteries per the fact that some of the mysteries listed there are actually dreams not visions: Horace, Locke, Jin...
3. Charlotte's past is deffinetly unanswered mystery, it isn't partially answered because we don't know a thing about it, except the fact that it is conected to the Island.
4. Neil isn't a mystery, not yet. We don't know anything about him but it's the same with everyother mentioned/briefly seen/background/status-unknown character.
 Orhan94  Talk  Contribs  10:23, 19 January 2009 (UTC)

Agreed on all four points. Furthermore, the images for some things need to be fixed again. People, please use images that are the right size for the portals.  Jimbo the Tubby  talk  contributions  01:31, 20 January 2009 (UTC)

  • I took care of the portal pics. I agree with you re: Frog (which I deleted), Charlotte's past and Visions. I'm gonna mod that up. As for the Elizabeth I think the mystery is about what happened to the boat, not neceseraly its Libby link (although that counts too) - TheAma1 17:29, 27 January 2009 (UTC)

The Swan: Some questions remaining

I believe that there are still too many unsolved questions and misteries regarding the Swan (just check the page) as to color code it as "solved". More like "partially solved". Maokun 03:48, 2 February 2009 (UTC)

Charlotte's History: Partially Solved

Given the revelations in "This Place Is Death" regarding Charlotte's history, I think it is safe to say it is partially solved and an update is needed, although there are still some questions such as who are her parents, so we can't say solved yet(MaxMoney37 16:48, 13 February 2009 (UTC))

Should Others:Information be a Mystery

Should there be a category for the Others that is about how they have obtained so much information on the Survivors? It's kind of an old mystery that I am surprised hasn't been put up yet. I suppose in some ways it could be related to the Lists mystery, but not 100%. We know that from season 3's "One of Us" that Ben asked Mikhail in The Flame to gather information on all the passengers - but - a) how did Mikhail do this and b) is this the only source of information that the Others have on the Survivors? When Ethan and Goodwin were sent to make lists were these being matched with a master set of information that the Others had? With season 4 and 5 developments I am also wondering if Locke (or someone else interacting with the Others pre-crash) passed along specific information? Seems like it's worth a mystery box. Lostchap 15:42, 7 March 2009 (UTC)lostchap

Beechcraft

I think that we should put the drug smuggler's plane as solved per the fact that the last unanswered question about it (How did it crash to the Island?) is answered (It crashed there while the Island was moving, we know that aswell as through time the Island moves in space, confirmed by The Lamp Post's purpose as seen in "316"). -- Orhan94  Talk  Contribs  19:26, 12 March 2009 (UTC)

I agree. It will never be directly answered, I don't believe, but I think that it could easily be inferred. -- Sam McPherson  T  C  E  19:48, 12 March 2009 (UTC)
Disagree: "The Island moves" is a pretty big answer. That's like saying "Jacob said so/It's your destiny" to every other question unanswered relating to events or characters. I don't much care about the Beechcraft's destination, but how a plane from Africa ended up on an Island supposedly in the middle of the South Pacific is still unanswered. Saying it won't be raised on the show again when there is still over a season left is pointless as you never know what ultimately will or won't be solved. Until clearly stated (like for the Runway) in a podcast or otherwise, this should still be put down as partially solved. - TheAma1 16:26, 5 April 2009 (UTC)

Totals

Are the totals really necessary? It seems like all they do is clutter up the page and make it much more difficult to edit. Since they were introduced, I stopped editing this page just because it was too much of a hassle to modify the totals. I don't think knowing the number of mysteries that have been solved really gives any additional information to the reader.  Jimbo the Tubby  talk  contributions  19:45, 20 March 2009 (UTC)

Question for someone who knows more about wiki coding than me: is there a way that a page can display the number of times a certain template is used on a given page? If so, that'd be a really good way to track the totals that wouldn't require tedious maintenance.  Jimbo the Tubby  talk  contributions  19:06, 11 April 2009 (UTC)

Okay, you want to keep the totals, fine. But do we really need the subtotals in each section? The largest section in the portal is only 15 images long. If you really want to know the subtotal, it's not at all difficult to add up. Furthermore, they're seldom accurate anyways because few people bother to update them. Can we please remove them?  Jimbo the Tubby  talk  contributions  23:54, 17 May 2009 (UTC)

I agree with that, keep only page totals and delete subtotals. --Metalpotato - Talk - Contributions - ✉ 17:02, 18 May 2009 (UTC)
I could be wrong, but the subtotal for "Unsolved" is wrong, it says 18, but I only count 17. Arvinkx 06:06, 30 May 2009 (UTC) Arvin

Some of the mysteries

  • IMO, the Runway answered in "Namaste" and in the latest Audio Podcast, as we know its purpose (to act as a runway to Ajira Flight 316}} and we know how the Others knew that Ajira would land on the Island (Jacob told Ben, who told the Others). It's no longer unanswered nor partially answered. Also as of "Because You Left" there are no questions left for the Beechcraft (except "Where was the Beechcraft supposed to go?"). Charlie's dream is answered, as well as the Polar bears (we know that DHARMA brought them to the Island, we know that they got to Tunisia because it is the Orchid's exit, logically they were conducting experiments with Polar bears in the Orchid).-- Orhan94  Talk  Contribs  10:56, 21 March 2009 (UTC)

DISCHARGE

can someone explain to me why the Discharge is listed as solved? It should be unsolved, or maybe partially solved, but certainly not solved. All we know is that Desmond turning the failsafe key caused the discharge... but we don't know anything else about it. I don't think we'll fully understand it until we understand the incident. We don't know specifically what it was discharging. We don't know why it sounded/looked like the time flashes. We don't know how the failsafe key works or why it exists. That being said, I am changing it to unsolved. If anyone insists on changing it back to solved, please explain exactly why. Perhaps you know something about Lost the rest of us do not. --Jtmoore 04:45, 27 March 2009 (UTC)

Libby

  • I know that I lot of people would disagree with this, but after few confirmations by the producers and a little bit of logic, I think that we should remove Libby's past as a mystery. And, come to think of it, there is no actual mystery left about her past. We know that she was at one point in Santa Rosa Mental Health Institute and that she had a wealthy husband who named a sailboat after her that she gave away to a stranger after his death. I actually am more and more convinced that there really is no mystery to her past. IMO Sawyer (Interpol and Tampa Job) and Sayid (Basra) have more intriguing pasts than Libby-- Orhan94  Talk  Contribs  17:36, 1 April 2009 (UTC)

Raising Aaron = solved

  • I think that every mystery left about who should/who can/who does raise Aaron was resolved as of "Whatever Happened, Happened". -- Orhan94  Talk  Contribs  20:48, 3 April 2009 (UTC)
    • Disagree: Claire's story is obviously still open and when/if she does come back on the show, then the question of what happened to Aaron will be again raised. There is still a whole season (and a half) left for his fate to be answered. - TheAma1 16:22, 5 April 2009 (UTC)

Richard, Ethan, and Pierre

Ok, as far as I see it Richard is in no way "solved". I suppose an argument could be made that he is partially solved, but all we really know is that he doesn't appear to age, has been on the Island since at least 1954, and has some leadership among the Others. So he should be listed as unsolved.

As far as Chang goes, I could agree to partially solved but he isn't "unsolved" just because we don't know his position and rank in DHARMA. If that's the case, we may as well add every other DHARMA member to the page. After all, we don't know Phil's last name, rank, family history, etc, therefore he is a mystery! Just because something isn't blatantly explained on screen doesn't make it a mystery.

and Ethan's "superhuman strength" was explained. The producers said in a podcast that it was not a mystery, Ethan just "works out". I can try to find it if you want. As far as why he was visiting Rachel, I think that can be considered a general "Others" mystery. I think if we understood why they do anything they do, we'd know that. Therefore, I don't think Ethan himself is a mystery.

as far as the Orientation films, you noted that there are "loads of things we don't know about them". Like what? What could we possibly need to know besides that they are films made for the benefit of new recruits. The Swan orientation video mentions the incident but that doesn't make the film itself a mystery. --Jtmoore 20:15, 5 April 2009 (UTC)

How is Faraday's Memory solved?

This should still be Unsolved I know of no explanation provided by the show for his memory question. I've seen some theories on this board, but no actual confirmation of a cause. Namastizzay 00:00, 7 April 2009 (UTC)

  • It shouldn't even be "Partially Solved." Namastizzay 00:02, 7 April 2009 (UTC)

It's hinted that time travel causes memory loss when Charlotte can't remember things during the shifts. Thus, partially solved because we have a hint at a solution, but by no means a complete one.  Jimbo the Tubby  talk  contributions  04:02, 7 April 2009 (UTC)

Miles' Abilities Solved?

I think the issue with Miles' abilities is just partially solved. We know about the nature of his abilities, but we still don't know its real source as Bram mentioned in "Some Like It Hoth" Paintbox 18:51, 1 May 2009 (UTC)

    • I agree, Partially solved. Eyeinthesky 00:48, 12 May 2009 (UTC)

Polar Bears

We learnt that who put the polar bears on the island. Yes, that was a part of this mystery. But do we know why did they use polar bears for experiments instead of penguins, or for example snow leopards? What was the exact purpose of the experiment about the polar bears? I think there're still some unanswered questions about the bears. Paintbox 19:03, 1 May 2009 (UTC)

  • Just for clarification, and this does not refer to the Polar bears only. We don't make a mystery green once every single question about it is answered (as with Naomi, as she represented a mystery when she arrived in Catch-22, based on where she came from, who sent her and why did she claim the plane was found in the ocean... all of these questions were answered, though her article lists other questions about her too such as "Why did she thought that there might be survivors from Oceanic Flight 815?", which while still unanswered in certainly NOT part of the mystery about Naomi; this also applies for the few questions about Ethan Rom, Rousseau's past, The beechcraft plane, Dr. Pierre Chang, The tracking station, The polar bears... while on the other hand not applying to DHARMA, the Hostiles, the Others, Eloise and Time travel, even though most of the mystery surrounding these is resolved) -- Orhan94  Talk  Contribs  23:26, 9 May 2009 (UTC)
    • Ok, as you've said answered basic questions about a mystery make it resolved. As far as we know the only important question e.g. for Naomi was her basic identity. We got the answers, and she is not a mystery anymore. Questions like "Why did she think that there might be survivors from Oceanic Flight 815?" would just fill the cavities of the story, or may lead to resolve other mysteries - not Naomi's. But in some cases, this formula is not useful. There are two important 'basic' questions for the polar bears. "Who put them on the island?" and more important than that, "For what purpose were the polar bears brought to the island?". The second question is extremely important, and from the time we first saw them it's the main mystery around the polar bears. So to me polar bear issue is a partially solved mystery. Anyway a mystery is a relative term, and if there's an exact definition of 'mystery' in Lostpedia, there's no need for discussing. Whatever happened, happened. Paintbox 22:05, 10 May 2009 (UTC)

Answered mysteries

The Swan, Pushing the Button and The Discharge? Should we consider them Answered or keep them Partially Answered? -- Orhan94  Talk  Contribs  03:19, 14 May 2009 (UTC)

  • I vote answered. Honestly, is "pushing the button" still listed as partially answered? As for the discharge, the only real mystery remaining is "what happens after" but that's not a valid UQ so I don't see why it should be a valid mystery.  Jimbo the Tubby  talk  contributions  03:58, 15 May 2009 (UTC)

Dave

For what reason is Dave listed as solved? Especially given Jacob's recent statement that Hurley is not crazy. Passingtramp 21:51, 15 May 2009 (UTC)

"Is not crazy" is quite different than "was never crazy". It seems 100% unlikely that they'll revisit Dave at any point in the future, let's just accept the Occam's Razor answer.  Jimbo the Tubby  talk  contributions  05:28, 16 May 2009 (UTC)

Ilana and Her Group

What about Ilana, Bram and their group? Another important mystery of Season 5. We don't know their identity yet, so it's not clear where to place Ilana and Bram, but maybe we can create a temporary subsection like "Flight 316 Passengers" Paintbox 10:18, 16 May 2009 (UTC)

Agree, this is a real mistery to me... Who do they work for? They came only to show Locke's body to The Others? Why they spoke to Miles outside the island? Was Caesar one of them? --Metalpotato - Talk - Contributions - ✉ 17:03, 18 May 2009 (UTC)
What has been answered about her group? -- Dhalia 16:46, 7 June 2009 (UTC)
  • I think nothing has been answered about her group.(Except the fact that Jacob requested help from Ilana). So that should be an unsolved mystery. Anyway I simply can't understand under what circumstances people decide mysteries partially or completely solved in this page. Just take a look at -for example- 'dreams and visions'. Does anyone remember how was the mystery about Kate's Horse solved, or Libby's, Ana Lucia's, Daniel's visions partially solved? In this case maybe Ilana's mystery was already solved, just we couldn't understand:) -- Paintbox 17:32, 7 June 2009 (UTC)
    • Well we know what is the answer to their question (Jacob), we know what is in their crate (Locke's body) and we know who is the "winning side" of the war (Jacob's followers). -- Orhan94  Talk  Contribs  18:34, 7 June 2009 (UTC)

Ordering

What happened to the old ordering of how the mysteries were introduced in the show? I think it made much more sense than the current ordering by status, otherwise there's no point in having different colours, we could just name three sections of "Solved" "Partially Solved" and "Unsolved". I nominate replacing the old order which places mysteries in the order they were introduced on the show.  Jimbo the Tubby  talk  contributions  23:44, 17 May 2009 (UTC)

  • Yes and can we also return some of the deleted mysteries and some of the mysteries that changed sub-section as the pre-finale ordering for mysteries and their solved/unsolved stuatus was better. -- Orhan94  Talk  Contribs  23:47, 17 May 2009 (UTC)
  • Yes. We should not keep subtotals but a page total, create sub-sections and order by apparition in show. I don't care about colors. --Metalpotato - Talk - Contributions - ✉ 17:06, 18 May 2009 (UTC)

The lawyer

Is Dan really unanswered after "The Little Prince"? -- Orhan94  Talk  Contribs  08:00, 20 May 2009 (UTC)

  • Yeah, solved. He's not even major enough for this portal I think. --Blueeagleislander 08:06, 20 May 2009 (UTC)

Claire's Message Solved?

Is this mystery regarding what happened to the message after Claire released the bird? If so, it's still unsolved, right?-- Steele  talk  contribs  21:16, 26 May 2009 (UTC)

New mysteries

  • First, why Isabel? IMO Mikhail is a far better candidates for Others' mysteries, as he appeared in the Pearl, back then known as "Patchy" or "The man with the eye-patch"... I think that he actually deserves a spot here, never-minding the outcome on the discussion whether Isabel stays or not.
  • Second, can a mystery be added to the Ajira 316 sub-section about the motivations for returning for the Oceanic Five, as the motivations of each of them is a mystery similar to the identities of the O6 last year. -- Orhan94  Talk  Contribs  12:01, 10 June 2009 (UTC)
  • I've added Isabel, because she revealed unknown pieces of Others' lifestyle and hierarchy. Because of Isabel, we learned that the Others have a law system including sherrif(s), trials, and death penalty. And the judge is not a leader - neither Jacob nor Ben. So Isabel was important, but not because of her identity, she could be the answers of important questions about the Others' regime/method of management. So she deserves a spot here as a representative of the Others' system. (By the way i agree that Mikhail's identity was another mystery, but when think of Isabel's role, this could be a secondary mystery. He possessed nothing new as an Other. Just an ordinary member except his patch.)
  • About Ilana's Group; actually it was a difficult decision where to put them. As far as we know they're Jacob's followers like the Others, but does this make them members of the Others? No, not yet. And please look at the other current sub-sections in this page. None of them is suitable to add mysteries about Ilana and friends. So i thought i had to create a new subsection. If we knew what team Bram was referring to (5x13 - Some Like It Hoth), the name of this subsection could be different, but as long as we learn who these people really are, the best option is "316 Passengers" i think. Anyway it's a pleasure to hear any other suggestions. --Paintbox 13:28, 10 June 2009 (UTC)
  • By the way, if we talk about the new mysteries... Should Hurley's collapsing deck accident be a mystery? Imho, there's nothing mysterious about this incident, we know who caused what, we know the reasons, and consequences, just we couldn't see yet. Any other ideas? -- Paintbox 16:16, 11 June 2009 (UTC)
    • The deck incident has been confirmed by the producers as an event they don't plan to have a flashback to. IMO I think that the Basra Incident and the Tampa Job deserve to be here more. -- Orhan94  Talk  Contribs  16:22, 11 June 2009 (UTC)

Are Bonnie and Greta an mysterie? Because what they were doing in Canada? How become they one of The Others? How did they found the island? Why were they in The Looking Glass? --Station7 17:13, 13 June 2009 (UTC)

Is Frank Lapidus an mysterie? Because why wasn't he on flight 815? Why was he chosen by abbadon? What is he's connection with the island? And why is he with Ilana's group?--Station7 16:37, 16 June 2009 (UTC)

  • Could be, but it's a fact that Lost is full of mysteries from the time it started and i think it's impossible to add each of them. In my opinion we have to choose the mysteries which were/are prominent to the story. I think Tampa Job, Basra Incident or Bonnie and Greta's backstory don't look like closely related to the story. So i don't think we have to place them here. But anyway i think there're still some important mysteries which aren't included in the portal yet. The mysteries such as Sayid's assailants (One of the them was revealed as John Locke in Season 1, and the others are unknown assailants in Season 5), Hurley's guitar case, pursuers in the canoe, the necessity of coming back to the island deserve to be listed as important mysteries of the show. Does anyone agree? -- Paintbox 13:21, 19 June 2009 (UTC)

I agree, and I've added all of them. I added Sayid's victims and Sayid's assailants as two separate mysteries. I didn't add "the necessiry of coming back to the island" because a) I didn't know what to call it, and b) I didn't know what article to link it to. But I agree it's a big mystery... so if anyone has any suggestions, feel free. Please do not delete any of the mysteries I added before first discussing why you feel they are not mysteries. --Jtmoore 15:51, 19 June 2009 (UTC)

  • All new mysteries seem ok to me, but i think "Cabin Resident" is a part of the current mystery about "The Cabin". I don't think we need a new title. -- Paintbox 16:06, 19 June 2009 (UTC)
  • I think it merits its own title... The Cabin itself raises several questions, i.e. why does it move? what's up with the ash circle? why did they have to burn it? as for the "Resident" the big question is who the hell was that? I guess what I'm saying is even if we understand the Cabin, we may not necessarily know who that guy was. --Jtmoore 16:15, 19 June 2009 (UTC)

Nathan

Should Nathan be include?

  • not any reason I can think of. In what way was Nathan a mystery? I guess for one episode we were unsure if it was him or Goodwin who was the Others' spy. I think a mystery that's introduced and resolved within the same episode can't really be on this page. --Jtmoore 15:52, 19 June 2009 (UTC)
  • Disagree. Some people consider his long toilet break as a mystery, but i think there's nothing mysterious about him. --Paintbox 15:57, 19 June 2009 (UTC)
  • No a mystery is something that is left unanswered in one episode and doesn't get an answer for a significant amount of time, ranging from few episodes (such as Cooper's arrival and Rousseau's distress call) to several seasons (the Beechcraft, Rousseau's expedition and DHARMA). Everything that was presented as an unanswered question about Nathan was answered by the end of "The Other 48 Days" which is also the only episode he appeared in. -- Orhan94  Talk  Contribs  16:02, 19 June 2009 (UTC)

Return to the Island

I don't think that this is a partially answered mystery as we know who made the O6 return (Locke convinced Jack, Ben convinced Sun, Ilana - Sayid, Jacob - Hurley and Kate's conscience over leaving Claire and lying made her decide to come back), we know how the get back (with Ajira Flight 316), we know why Sun isn't 1977 (the passengers didn't recreate the exact circumstances under which 815 crashed) and we know the bad things that started happening to the Islanders (most of them were killed in the flame arrow attack, the temporal displacement ending with Charlotte's death, the time shifts which finding locations on the Island really hard). So it's a sure deal to mark it as answered. -- Orhan94  Talk  Contribs  09:56, 20 June 2009 (UTC)

  • Orhan, i definetely disagree with you.We know the answers of who, how, what, but we certainly don't know the answer of the most important question of this mystery: "Why?". "Why did they have to go back to the island?" "What exactly their temporary farewell to the island caused?". In my opinion, the main mystery about returning to the island is the necessity of coming back. This question is one of the most important questions of the last two seasons, and hasn't been answered yet. So i think it is partially answered. -- Paintbox 11:18, 20 June 2009 (UTC)

Are Charles Widmore, Magnus Hanso and The Musician a mystery. Charles Widmore because, How did het get off the Island and why? How did he make his fortune? Magnus Hanso because ,Where is his body? Has he maybe what is don't think because he maybe already death ,was he with DHARMA or somehow related? and The Musican because is he maybe the economist. why did he take that song? Who is he? when did he leave the looking Glass and why?--Station7 10:13, 23 June 2009 (UTC)

  • Well Charles is covered under the Ben vs. Widmore mystery, Magnus is covered under The Black Rock mystery and The Musician is not a mystery the same way the 26-year-old woman or Sarah's lover aren't. -- Orhan94  Talk  Contribs  21:46, 23 June 2009 (UTC)

Volcanic Activity

Does anyone think that the volcanic activity on the island could be prominent to the island history or to the story itself? As i've seen in the article, the producers already commented about this issue "It's less important than Annie, but still seismic." Although it's a mystery, the producers signalled that the volcano won't be a recurring part of the show, so personally i don't think that we have to add this mystery. Any ideas? -- Paintbox 20:37, 2 July 2009 (UTC)

I agree that the volcano is a mystery, but what would we ask about it? I mean, "does he have lava?" or something like that. Could been asked where it is on the Island, but we know that it's on the Island then we should ask where's everything on the Island 'cause we don't know the Island. We know that it's not active 'cause the teacher said it wasn't. I think that when there's nothing to ask, there's nothing to answers, therefore not being a mystery :) -- Lucas Benicá | Talk | Email | 17:03, 7 August 2009 (UTC)
No,the question was not about lava:) The question or the mystery could be the results of a possible volcanic activity occured in the past. You know natural disasters including volcanos were (and still are) very important in many civilization's history, so there was a possibility that the volcano had a significant role in the island history. But as i said before, because of the comments made by the producers this is unlikely. So it looks pointless to consider volcano as a mystery. At least "currently". -- Paintbox 21:04, 7 August 2009 (UTC)

The Economist

Hasn't the mystery about the Economist revealed? It was said that he was Charles Widmore in an enhanced episode, and I think everybody understands by rewatching the episode 403 that he's the Economist after all. -- Lucas Benicá | Talk | Email | 16:56, 7 August 2009 (UTC)

Nadia's and Edmund's Deaths

Actually i know that "Are they accidents or murders?" is not a valid unanswered question, but i think there're still some important questions about these two suspicious deaths. Should Nadia's Death be set to partially answered, and should Edmund's Death be added here? -- Paintbox 21:23, 7 August 2009 (UTC)

  • Nadia's death, sure. As for Edmund's death, I don't think there's really any mystery surrounding it. Even if there is, it's not really a major question for the series.  Jimbo the Tubby  talk  contributions  21:44, 7 August 2009 (UTC)
  • About Edmund, it definitely looks like a murder even though there's no real evidence. You may know, one of the actors made some comments about Edmund's death recently which i can't say here because of the spoiler policy. These comments created the possibility of seeing the background of Edmund's death along with the nature of Mittelos Bioscience this season. But anyway i agree with you, it shouldn't be considered as a major mystery for now.
  • By the way i couldn't understand your opinion about Nadia's death. Do you think there's still mystery about Nadia's death? -- Paintbox 11:26, 8 August 2009 (UTC)
    • I think there's arguably some mystery there, but even if there's not, at one point there was so I think we should include it.  Jimbo the Tubby  talk  contributions  21:15, 8 August 2009 (UTC)
    • Well,yes i think the same. There is. We don't know if Ben told the truth about Ismael Bakir's role in Nadia's death, or Jacob's connection. So i'm changing it to 'partially solved'. -- Paintbox 22:02, 8 August 2009 (UTC)
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