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Mediumship

Can we have a new mystery for mediumship? We know MiB, Hurley, and Miles have it, but we don't know what causes it. Then we could just remove Miles off the mystery page too. Go, Wonderweiss-mon! 03:20, August 26, 2010 (UTC)

Redesign

I'm working on a potential redesign of the portal, which you can see here: User:Jimbo the tubby/Mysteries (redesign). It will group mysteries together into broader categories as well as present the answers for them so that we don't have to bicker (as much) about which mysteries are solved or unsolved. I've also reorganized certain of the mystery portals so that they appear under the category they were originally presented as. For example, the Smoke Monster is listed under Island mysteries because he was originally an Island mystery. The fact that he has anything to do with Jacob and the Man in Black is more of an answer than a question. But that's a minor point. Let me know if people like the table-ized version in my sandbox or if anyone has any suggestions.  Jimbo the Tubby  talk  contributions  04:18, May 27, 2010 (UTC)

  • Jimbo, it looks great! I thought about a similar concept for a time ago, but couldn't imagine how to do it. You made it come true. But some of the mysteries wasn't actually solved (although we suppose that they're solved),or we got some indirect answers. So the only problem could be the exact definition of the solution time. Anyway thank you very much, a real brilliant idea! --Paintbox 07:23, May 27, 2010 (UTC)
    • Cool... I don't wanna switch it over until there's more feedback, but anyone who's interested in working on the page in my sandbox in the meantime is welcome to do so. The solution time problem has a couple of... solutions... We could list the episode where the first major question about it was answered, we coul list the episode in which the last major question was answered, or we could list any episode with any major answers. Personally, I like the 3rd one but I'm not sure if it would make the table cell to big.  Jimbo the Tubby  talk  contributions  15:49, May 27, 2010 (UTC)
      • I like your new format a lot. I think it's a much more convenient design than the current one. Hope you put it up soon. --Blackout0189 17:57, May 27, 2010 (UTC)
      • I really like it. But I kind of like being able to see all the pictures at a glance and getting a really quick estimate of what was solved and what wasn't. Perhaps a Portal: Answers, a sort of sister page that links directly and correspond with each other? Just a suggestion. I really like it though. Msett 21:43, May 28, 2010 (UTC)
  • Excellent, I was going to suggest something like this when I found out it was already being done--Rod|talk 21:52, May 28, 2010 (UTC)

David Shephard

Unless you could tell us "what" he really is, please don't remove him.--Edible8 01:12, May 28, 2010 (UTC)

  • The flash-sideways showed several characters getting over their vices before they move on (Ben sacrificing Alex, Charlie accepting how little his band means, etc.), whether or not it fits what happened before Oceanic 815. David was just there so Jack can take care of the vice he has with his father. --Geekinator 02:42, May 28, 2010 (UTC)

Walt's Powers

What? Did i misss something? This isn't solved. If it was solved on a podcast or something than it should be explained canonically. Lapidus7 16:58, May 31, 2010 (UTC)

Charlotte Malkin

Can we remove her from this page? She appeared in one episode of the show and had nothing to do with it. She is an unanswered question, but not a MYSTERY. this page is for the big mythological mysteries, not minor characters from flashbacks. Msett 20:59, June 1, 2010 (UTC)

  • Is she even unanswered? As seen in season 6, when characters become close to death they can see visions of the afterlife. Surely we have an answer for how she saw Yemi. I'm just not sure what mystery to role her under. "Visions of the dead" or "Seeing other timelines" perhaps?  Jimbo the Tubby  talk  contributions  23:07, June 13, 2010 (UTC)

Sideways

What exactly were the mysteries of Jin/Sun and Ben? Seems unnecessary

The Source is Solved

The Source is solved. We went into the Heart of the Island. We saw it. We know that it is the electromagnetic core of the island and if the cork is removed, the electromagnetism is released and will destroy the world, etc. etc. Please don't change it unless you discuss. Msett 22:03, June 6, 2010 (UTC)

The Numbers are Solved

The numbers are the degrees Jacob turned the wheel to in order to see the candidates. They kept popping up because each one was one of the 6 remaining candidates. See the proposed redesign page, it might explain it better than I can. But it is solved. Msett 22:03, June 6, 2010 (UTC)

You are silly

How do you explain numbers in the thousands dumbass.

Ruins

can we make the ruins a mystery???? where did they come from???? Lapidus7 21:49, June 9, 2010 (UTC)

  • I wouldn't exactly call it a mystery. They were made by the Egyptians that settled on the island, similiar to the 4 toed statue, etc. They're just the remnants of a previous civilization, like the Beach Camp in 50+ years. Msett 18:31, June 10, 2010 (UTC)

Glass Eye?

Is that REALLY a mystery? It's more like an unanswered question, but it appeared once and really has no effect on the series whatsoever. Should this be on Portal:Mysterious? I personally would save it for an unanswered questions page, but not here. Msett 18:31, June 10, 2010 (UTC)

  • The glass eye must have belonged to Mikhail.Annarboral 05:21, June 22, 2010 (UTC)

Soulmates?

What is this business with soul mates? It doesn't seem to me like questions were raised ever about soul mates so why are we asking who John and Ben's were?  Jimbo the Tubby  talk  contributions  23:09, June 13, 2010 (UTC)

Mysterious Boy

I suggest including this in the Jacob and MIB section. Solved of course, it's young Jacob. The question that remains is: How could others besides MIB and Hurley see him?Annarboral 05:33, June 22, 2010 (UTC)

The Door

I reverted the edit which moved The Door from the DHARMA Stations section to the Others' section. This is because all the other mysteries are listed under categories which indicate how they were presented, rather than how they were answered. For example, the smoke monster and Adam and Eve are listed under "The Island" rather than "Jacob vs Man in Black" because that's how the mysteries were introduced. The fact that the two have anything to do with Jacob and MIB is more of an answer than a mystery. Similarly, the Door was introduced as an additional DHARMA station. The fact that it was a decoy made by the Others is an answer, not the mystery itself, and so it belongs under the DHARMA section, imo.  Jimbo the Tubby  talk  contributions  17:48, June 30, 2010 (UTC)

  • On the other hand, it was introduced strictly as something being used by the Others. The mystery wasn't so much, "What kind of station was it, and how did DHARMA use it?" but rather, "What are the Others keeping in there?" --Celebok 23:38, July 2, 2010 (UTC)
    • By that logic the Staff, the Hydra and the Looking Glass should be listed under The Others rather than DHARMA stations.  Jimbo the Tubby  talk  contributions  03:41, July 3, 2010 (UTC)
      • Maybe. I guess the difference is that we actually saw those stations and therefore know that those were DHARMA stations, whereas, we don't even know if a DHARMA station called The Door ever existed. The Others may have fabricated that symbol, for all we know. --Celebok 19:11, July 3, 2010 (UTC)
        • Oh, I'm convinced there was no such DHARMA station and that it was only ever a ruse by the Others. But I still think it belongs in the DHARMA stations sections because that's how the mystery was initially presented.  Jimbo the Tubby  talk  contributions  20:01, July 3, 2010 (UTC)
          • Hmm. Well, I still disagree that it was presented that way, but I'll let it go, pending any third opinions (the person whose edit you reverted, for instance). --Celebok 22:28, July 3, 2010 (UTC)

Passenger Massacre

why is the Ajira passenger massacre not on this page?--Jmoore0905 06:55, July 2, 2010 (UTC)

  • Probably because it was solved within the same episode as it was introduced. It's not a huge mystery of the series, just a quick thing that happened in an episode. That's my opinion, anyways. Similarly, I'm not a big fan of having the pillar of smoke or the lighthouse on here either, for the same reasons.  Jimbo the Tubby  talk  contributions  14:57, July 2, 2010 (UTC)
  • um, it was solved? when? I was pretty sure they never confirmed what happened and left it at that...which would make it an unsolved mystery.--Jmoore0905 19:29, July 10, 2010 (UTC)
  • Umm... Widmore killed them? Didn't he say as much?  Jimbo the Tubby  talk  contributions  22:53, July 10, 2010 (UTC)
  • No, he did not. In fact, he denied killing them if anything. Go to the page for the Ajira 316 massacre (or just rewatch Recon)...it was never answered if it was MIB, Widmore, or someone else. --Jmoore0905 06:47, July 16, 2010 (UTC)
  • I went ahead and added it.--Jmoore0905 05:37, July 27, 2010 (UTC)

Widmore's return section error

The article currently states the following:

How did Widmore come back after not being able to do so for many years?

Jacob visited him and told him to go back, most likely abolishing his exile as a result. ("What They Died For")


I believe this statement is incorrect, as this is only what Widmore had claimed in the episode. We have not actually seen this happen. In relation to this very scene Damon & Carlton had said the following during the Times Talk event: "If a character tells you something, you can doubt it. Like Widmore. He suddenly has this change of heart and says Jacob visited him? Did Jacob really visit him? On the other hand, if you SEE something happening, then it’s true and real. We witnessed Jacob visiting Ilana at the hospital, her all bandaged up. But all we know is Widmore relayed a story. So it might be false. You have to remember to not listen to what characters on LOST say, but what they actually DO. Keep this in mind when wondering if what Widmore said was true."

From this, to me at least, it is quite clear that Widmore's statement should not be treated as fact. (If it were fact, we would probably have seen it.) From a character standpoint, in my opinion Widmore is not the kind of person to admit mistakes. Referring to Jacob as the person who told him what he did wrong and what he should do is easier than admitting that he himself realized that he was wrong and he wants to do the right thing now.

Either way, because of the above, we cannot be sure about the truthfulness of Widmore's statement, thus it is a proper answer. (Unfortunately, at this point I cannot provide a better answer, just point out that the current answer is unsatisfactory.) Adam Dobay 10:34, July 3, 2010 (UTC)

Rename to "Portal:Mysteries"

Pictogram voting support "Mysterious" apparently derives from "mysterious happenings," but it makes no sense on its own. --- Balk Of Fametalk 07:07, July 27, 2010 (UTC)

Desmond's flashes

Under Unanswered Questions there is the question: Why was Claire never seen getting on the helicopter with Aaron as Desmond predicted? Judging from the way he acted when saying that, I would suggest he just said it to convince Charlie to dive to the Looking Glass. I don't think he really had a vision of her. Should that really be listed as unanswered question? Thanks Naya Nayavenne 01:28, August 19, 2010 (UTC)

  • That's just a theory. I agree with your theory, but it's still a theory, not officially confirmed. --Celebok 19:31, August 19, 2010 (UTC)
    • Well remember, even on this page it says "what can be answered or inferred from the show. But actually this falls under the previous question, and I edited it to show that. What I mean is things can be changed, but eventually both Claire and Aaron did get off the island, so it's not really a mystery. Go, Wonderweiss-mon! 03:18, August 26, 2010 (UTC)

Raising Aaron

Under unanswered questions there is the question: Why did Malkin change his prediction later, saying that Claire must give up Aaron to a couple in L.A.? I think that the reason Malkin changed his mind was to prevent Claire from giving the baby up. I know he revealed himself to be a fraud but that doesn't mean that he didn't have any powers at all just that he abused his powers. so the reason he sent Claire to L.A. is likely just what Claire thought it was; He knew the plane would crash.Should that really be listed as unanswered question?--Lostoholic 02:03, September 1, 2010 (UTC)

While this is probably the most likely answer it is unfortunately just a well developed theory. The show never actually answers this question and in my opinion it should remain listed as unanswered. Mhtm ghnd....talk 04:36, September 1, 2010 (UTC)

The Hostiles

Are the hostiles really a mystery? I think it is obvious that they are the Others since they are first mentioned. --Daniel990 00:27, September 19, 2010 (UTC)

That seems obvious now. When they were first introduced though, it seemed likely that the Others were themselves the remnants of DHARMA. So which hostiles were DHARMA afraid of? --- Balk Of Fametalk 00:16, September 19, 2010 (UTC)
If I remember well, the term "Hostiles" was introduced by Desmond in the season 2 finale, when Sayid aked him for the Elizabeth, and, after Sayid mentioned that he was going to the north shore of the island, Desmond replied: "Going to see the hostiles, are you?" From that, it is clear that the Others are the same as the Hostiles. --Daniel990 00:27, September 19, 2010 (UTC)

ANSWERED QUESTION

I would like to edit this entry to "The Purge":

Were there any survivors from the DHARMA Initiative?

Minimally, Kelvin and Radzinsky survived, presumably having been inside the Swan at the time. Ben and Ethan also survived, having defected to the Hostiles. Somehow, Danielle Rousseau was also able to survive the gas. ("Live Together, Die Alone, Part 2") ("The Man Behind the Curtain") ("Dead Is Dead")

Rousseau was "somehow" able to survive the gas because she wasn't on the island when The Purge took place. When she came to the island, then-leader Charles Widmore ordered Benjamin Linus to go kill Rousseau. Since Rousseau was probably in her third trimester (judging from her stomach), it isn't that farfetched to guess that she gave birth shortly after she arrived at the island.

This tells us that Benjamin Linus was already an 'Other' when Rousseau got to the island, which was about when she gave birth to Alex, hence the newborn baby. Since Ben was already an 'Other', it is implied that "The Purge" had already happened (probably when Ben was in his late-teens or early-twenties). Keep in mind that Rousseau came to the island 16 years before 2007, which is 1991, which is after the time period of the Dharma Initiative (70s-80s).

It sounds like you're responding to a previous answer. Don't do that. If an answer is wrong, edit it, but the article isn't a talk page.
That said, your correction is wrong. Danielle came in 1988. She came 16 years before 2004, not 2007. The question is the Purge's date, not Danielle's. I think we ought date the Purge at 1992 because Horace's ghost said so, and the show had no reason to lie in "Cabin Fever". Yes, Ben was "with" the Others in "Dead Is Dead" when he kidnapped Alex. But he also surely spent time with them before the Purge seeing that he helped them carry it out. --- Balk Of Fametalk 23:43, October 14, 2010 (UTC)

Sickness

Could anybody explain me what does it mean Sayid died before being claimed, suggesting that claiming involves resurrecting the dead?--Skenar 04:09, May 6, 2012 (UTC)

"Sayid was claimed. Sayid was resurrected. Possibly simultaneously. Therefore, being claimed involves resurrection."
A bit of a logical leap, maybe? --- Balk Of Fametalk 08:39, May 6, 2012 (UTC)
I'm sorry, but I'm not an English native speaker. Sayid was claimed by the Man in Black, wasn't him? So I understand that no matter if the one claimed is dead: the Man in Black is able to resurrect him or her if he wants him to be his ally.--Skenar 04:08, May 11, 2012 (UTC)

The Crash

I'm really surprised to not see the crash listed here. Initially, it was not clear why the plane crashed. Later, in the season 2 finale, it was made clear that the crash happened because Desmond didn't push the button. Much later, we found out that Jacob has the ability to bring people to the island. Kidburla (talk) 17:44, March 13, 2017 (UTC)

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