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We need to put it in a pic form like on the Main Characters Portal. I'll be glad to do this, shall you just tell me to. --Marik7772003 12:34, 19 October 2006 (PDT)

Wouldn't that make this page...huge? -Chris[dt7] 12:38, 19 October 2006 (PDT)
I don't think it would be that big. The main characters portal fits in one scroll on my tiny computer screen. --Marik7772003 12:51, 19 October 2006 (PDT)
  • I was thinking of the picture option, but I didn't do it not because of the size, but because it'd be something that would have to be maintained all the time, and we get a lot of new characters each episode (and we couldn't just use an existing photo and code it, we'd have to shrink it to the same size each time, and some users don't get this, they put in weirdly sized photos for other templates, as could be seen in Portal:Mysterious--I just fixed this, and it took a while). So we could do the pictures thing, it would look cool, but just a warning about keeping up with this. --PandoraX 14:28, 29 October 2006 (PST)

Pictures

Well, I had to get rid of the side pictures, they just weren't working out with the templates, so I decided to go ahead and try to tiny thumbnails in the templates. If you make new pics for this page, make sure that you keep them standard 30x30 pix, and cropped as tightly around the face as possible. --PandoraX 18:45, 30 October 2006 (PST)

I think they look really good. Side note, I know you're using white and blue backgrounds to differentiate crossover and normals, but is there anything we could do alternating like changing a colour on every other entry - I think it'll make the huge list stand out more and easier on the eye like I talked to ya about. Just an idea though, looks v. good already --Nickb123 (Talk) 04:05, 31 October 2006 (PST)
THanks, Nick. I personally think alternating colors, etc. would be too confusing, for a page that already has a lot already. Also, the top color is not white, it's a light shade of blue (Chris made it, so pick on him, hehe, but actually I like it... but we could go a *tad* darker, I guess, if we want that). Just don't want to go overboard with complexity. --PandoraX 04:23, 31 October 2006 (PST)

I think the new look is fantastic! I like the way the picture problem turned out. Great job to everyone that helped out! -- Dreamy Perfection 17:23, 31 October 2006 (PST)

Rationale

Thanks for the nice feedback Dreamy, Nick & others who msged me... if you want to change the templates a little (like the borders idea), we could always try something out temporarily and see what people think. On a separate note, just wanted to quickly explain my rationale for this page; it wasn't necessarily to make it "fancier" or anything like that. I wanted a standard way of organizing the characters by episode. I noticed that before, people were just adding characters out of order, which caused redundency, and a bunch of FB characters to be left out, hard to sort through. This format forces people to think about the episode and the order more. I just hope the length and many thumbnails don't interfere with viewing this long page on a slower connection; please leave a message if you have problems. --PandoraX 17:44, 31 October 2006 (PST)

When this page gets too long and cumbersome...

..as it no doubt will with more each episode... here's what I propose; breaking it down into individual pages per main character (whose flashbacks they belong to), buttons linking on this page:
JackFB

Voting

Please vote yes or no below to the following question: Is this page too long, and should it be broken up into separate pages? Per above suggestion, main Portal has buttons that link to pages for each character: "Jack's flashback characters", "Kate's flashback characters", and so on. In this case, you can change your vote at a future time, as the page lengthens. At some point it will have to switch over, it's just a matter of when.

  • No. Its not too long yet. It nearly is however. When it is too long, I would prefer to follow standard wiki procedures and break them down into subpages like Portal:Flashback Characters/Jack and use text with a photo of each major character to link to each one, rather than large, cumbersome button like the one above. -- Plkrtn  talk  contribs  email  16:26, 2 November 2006 (PST)
(No problem, we can work with that when the time comes) --PandoraX 22:38, 5 November 2006 (PST)

Rose in Jack's flashback

Should Rose be re-added to Jack's section? The peri-flight rule says "..unless significant interaction occurred (i.e. conversation)." I think we should re-add her to Jack's section, or at least take Cindy off Charlie's section.  ODK Talk   Sandbox 14:48, 14 January 2007 (PST)

I agree!!! Rose is definately in Jack's flashback if Cindy is, as is Locke. Princess Dharma (banned)

Quote Me On This

Look a pun thingy! Anywayz I was thinking about atributing quotes to some flashback characters. Any objections?--THE MONSTER

On island flashbacks, minor characters?

The latest Juliet flashback presents some questions for me...

  • 1) I'm assuming that the flashback navs (and various flashback categories) should have the same people as are on this page?
  • 2) I know about the peri-flight rules. What about on-island flashbacks? Ethan isn't counted for Claire or Nikki and Paulo, but Kelvin is counted for Desmond as the page is now. That makes it seem like the rule is more, no "after 815 crashes" flashbacks. In that case though, we would still include just about all of the Others in Juliet's flashbacks from her scenes on the Island before the 815 crash. This may become more of an issue if Ben gets a flashback too.
  • 3) What about minor flashback characters? Luke just says good morning to Juliet and Airport guard is a relatively minor character.

What to do? --Jackdavinci 18:40, 12 April 2007 (PDT)

rename to "flash" characters?

this section might have to be renamed, due to "game changing" flash-forwards. flash forwards and backs have been confirmed by aicn. i guess "flash characters" would be good as anything else. i agree that this won't be confirmed til next season starts, but it's something to think about --Semidelicious 18:30, 29 May 2007 (PDT)

could we perhaps make a different page for flash foward characters? Lets say, for instance, that Kate and Sawyer are living together after the island. wouldn't it make more sense to have thier flashfoward characters in the same column (like jin/sun, boone/shannon currently). this page will obviously be smaller, but i think making them different pages is something to consider. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by J52y (talkcontribs) .

But what about characters that appear in FBs and FFs? I say Rename --Gluphokquen Gunih 20:38, 14 February 2008 (PST)

  • Two sections should be made: One for FB and one for FF. - TheAma1 07:25, 15 February 2008 (PST)
  • Don't rename: we should create Portal:Flashforward Characters. Separating the flashback characters from the flashforward characters is better than lumping them all together - it's more organized and it's easier to get a sense of the "post-Island" universe. Two sections on the same page would be helpful, but this page is already very huge; and I don't see any problem with some character overlap. -- Graft   talk   contributions  20:31, 17 February 2008 (PST)
  • Don't rename. Too confusing. Also having a "Flash Forward" category would even be more confusing especially in cases in which a character appears in more than one of the categories. I would not be opposed to another name that would include both the past and future scenarios, which could have sub-categories of past, future and both past/future, but the name "Flash Characters" is too ambiguous and confusing. Find a better name that is more descriptive.--Vic Coutin 22:46, 20 February 2008 (PST)
  • Don't rename. Second portal I would support having flash forward and back portals. It would be less confusing, and make things clearer, especially in regards to characters that might appear in both. -- Plkrtn  talk  contribs  email  02:57, 21 February 2008 (PST)

I've created Portal:Flashforward Characters which is currently unprotected, should anyone wish to put in the characters from Jack, Hurley and Sayid's flashforwards. NOTE: The freighter people had flashbacks, not forwards... so don't include their character interactions! -- Plkrtn  talk  contribs  email  03:09, 21 February 2008 (PST)

Portal:Flashforward Characters is up and going, and looking good. Time to remove the rename tag, I think. -- Graft   talk   contributions  18:34, 12 March 2008 (PDT)

Should we create a page for on-island flashbacks? This would, of course, include most of Juliet's and Ben's flashbacks, but I think it is a mistkae to just keep out 3 minutes and the brig. We can even give karl one from greatest hits, if we wanted.

Cross Offensive?

I'm not very PC myself, but I could see somebody being offended by the cross next to the deceased. I know that its a common symbol outside of religion for denoting things, but perhaps we could choose something else?

Its not a cross. Its a dagger/obelisk symbol. Similar, I'll give you that, but it is not used for or with religious connotations in mind. Its origins are from Roman Catholicism (used to mark pauses in psalms), but it is a widely used symbol used for footnotes in typography. -- Plkrtn  talk  contribs  email  03:14, 21 February 2008 (PST)
Anyone actually offended by our use of the cross probably would've stopped watching after "The 23rd Psalm" and wouldn't be visiting this page. --Pyramidhead 21:01, 27 January 2009 (UTC)

Daniel, Frank, Charlotte, Miles and Naomi Pictures

Could some get pictures of the characters in Daniel, Frank, Charlotte, Miles and Naomi's falshbacks

major change

i propose we change this page and make it in tables with bigger pictures and more info.--Orhan94 11:33, 7 July 2008 (PDT)

Then we have to split the portal, otherwise it will grow to extremes. But maybe Portal: Jack Flashback Characters isn't such a bad idea, after all. On the other side, I think we will save us both time and efforts not to make any major changes of this type, until we know what format Season 5 will have... Pierre80 09:57, 9 July 2008 (PDT)

Links

Under Hurley, I changed all but the first occurrence of {{Ep|1x18}} to "Numbers." We had apparently overflowed the "max_links_allowed_per_page" parameter (or whatever it's called) and there were multiple occurrences of a pair of quotes. I wouldn't call this the most desirable fix but it worked in a limited way. We'd have to do the same for many other multiples for the page to really present well.--Jim in Georgia Contribs Talk 22:24, 12 January 2009 (UTC)

Ones that need to be updated

  • People I missed from WHH (Kate)
  • The O6 (minus Sun and Aaron) plus Walt plus other people from TLADOJB (Locke)
  • Ilana, the O6 (minus Aaron), and people from He's Our You (Sayid)
  • Charles, Alex, Danielle, Penny and Desmond from Dead is Dead (Ben)
  • Bram, his mom, and others from Some Like It Hoth (Miles)
  • Eloise, Teresa, and others from The Variable (Daniel)
  • People from The Incident...
    • Jacob and Doug for Sawyer
    • Jacob for Sayid
    • Jacob for Locke
    • Aunt Soo and Jacob for Jin & Sun
    • Jacob and the Anesthesiologist for Jack
    • Juliet's parents for Juliet
    • The prison clerk, taxi driver, and Jacob for Hurley

But I'm not that motivated right now. :P --Golden Monkey 15:28, 9 July 2009 (UTC)

    • Richard Alpert characters (Isabella, doctor, Magnus Hanso etc.)

Rename

We should rename this page to "Portal:Flashback characters". The last capital letter is not necessary.

--   FedericoF    talk    contribuctions    twitter 13:09, December 6, 2012 (UTC)

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