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Olivia Goodspeed

The official Lost ABC site calls her, on their episode summary, "Olivia Goodspeed". Are summaries from there considered canonical? --Sauron18 17:10, 28 May 2007 (PDT)

I have just been to the site. This is what it says:

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"Emily, who has just given birth and is dying, to the closest road and flags down a passing car.Horace and Olivia Goodspeed stop and offer to take them into town when Emily tells Roger to name the baby Benjamin, and then she dies."

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--Phil (talk) 02:10, 29 May 2007 (PDT)

Rename

I vote for a rename to Olivia Goodspeed--Phil (talk) 17:12, 28 May 2007 (PDT)

I personally think they were married, but other than Horace having a wedding ring on when Ben sees him dead, what other actual evidence is there? --Nickb123 (Talk) 04:24, 29 May 2007 (PDT)
  • The Lost ABC site calls her Olivia Goodspeed--Phil (talk) 04:26, 29 May 2007 (PDT)

Unanswered question

"Did Olivia die during the Purge?" was deleted as an unanswered question, but I think it's quite valid. Perhaps she did, or perhaps she died before the purge. Perhaps she survived and joined with the Others. Perhaps she left the Island before it took place. Since we last see her when Ben is still a child, her fate is very much open.--Hylas 19:49, 5 June 2007 (PDT)

Rename to Olivia

Because the fact we don't have canon source for her last name i propose renaming to Olivia

There was never a canon source naming her last name as Goodspeed. It was never shown or mentioned that she and Horace were married. In "LeFleur" we learn Horace is coupled with Amy and they have a child together, with no mention of a former wife. Until we are given a last name I think the last name of Goodspeed definetly needs to be removed. --Lanpesci 09:07, 5 March 2009 (UTC)

  • "Former wife" - incorrect. This was in 1970s. Horace and Olivia were shown together in the 80s were or whatever time Ben was a little boy on the Island. Olivia is the "future wife" --Mistertrouble189 11:47, 5 March 2009 (UTC)
    • Ben was born in the 60s and we saw both Horace and Olivia there. If they were married, Olivia would be the former wife. --Ortrules 14:56, 5 March 2009 (UTC)
      • Yes, and the classroom scene could easily have happened before 1977 when we see Horace married to Amy. ---- LOSTonthisdarnisland 04:47, 16 March 2009 (UTC)
  • agree Rename to Olivia. I also think we should remove the reference to her as Horace's wife. She may very well be but I don't think we've got a cannonical source for EITHER her last name or her relationship to Horace. Everyone seems to assume that she was his wife in MBtC but she may have been his girlfriend or his sister. I don't recall any discussion of their relationship. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by pennyj (talk • contribs) .
  • Agree Reluctantly agreeing - The original press release calls her Olivia, not Olivia Goodspeed - and there are no references to her being Olivia Goodspeed anywhere else. We're waiting on clear up from TPTB on this I think. -- Plkrtn  talk  contribs  email  15:11, 5 March 2009 (UTC)
  • Agree - we have no evidence, just assumptions that say she is (or was) married to Horace. Let's wait, watch and see.    Jabberwock    talk    contribs    email   - 15:12, 5 March 2009 (UTC)
  • Give source Either way, as long as we give the source for her last name it should be fine. I added "*Olivia's last name has not been revealed within the show, however, she was listed as Olivia Goodspeed on ABC's Lost website." to the trivia. [1] --Jackdavinci 15:24, 5 March 2009 (UTC)
  • We've asked Gregg Nations on The Fuselage about this. Hopefully he might get back to us on it in the near future. Her name on the ABC site is still listed as Olivia Goodspeed. I don't think her surname is in question at the moment actually, I'm more concerned about her relationship status, and where the episode LaFleur fits into the timeline. -- Plkrtn  talk  contribs  email  15:44, 5 March 2009 (UTC)
  • Wait and See: I think we should leave it Goodspeed for now, since it was and is on the ABC Lost site and we have a citation, but keep out any supposition of relationship until something more is shown to make that determination. ---- LOSTonthisdarnisland 16:46, 5 March 2009 (UTC)
  • Another source: The enhanced version of Cabin Fever says "We saw Horace in Ben's Season 3 backstory / in "The Man Behind the Curtain." / Horace and his wife helped Roger and Emily Linus / when Emily went into early labor with Ben." I know the enhanced pop ups are still of debateable canon. --Jackdavinci 22:29, 7 March 2009 (UTC)
    • That settles it in my mind, because it's the second source to confirm that factoid. I've fixed that part and spruced up the article. ---- LOSTonthisdarnisland 04:45, 16 March 2009 (UTC)

Podcast

The official Lost podcast from 2/05/09 has Damon and Carlton referring to Olivia as Horace's "friend". And considering that the enhanced episodes cannot be completely considered canon, is this a sign that perhaps they were not married? ♥meggie ~ Talk & contribs 23:50, 20 March 2009 (UTC)

  • The exact phrase is as follows:
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Benjamin Linus, here's what we know about him. He was born in the woods in Portland, Oregon, um, this guy Horace Goodspeed happened to be hiking through the woods with his friend Olivia. Then as a result of this...

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Horace's wife ?

What evidence do we have that she is / was Horace's wife ? The article states that this information was taken out of an enhanced episode, which has since been confirmed as non-canon. Plus, there's the fact that Horace has been seen having a relationship with Amy. I know that the article was renamed from Oliva to Olivia Goodspeed due to the fact that they were (at the time) assumed to be a couple. Is there any evidence that they share the same surname, in canon ? Have the producers mentioned anything about Horace and Olivia being married and / or related in any way, shape, or form ? Because if not, I feel that any mention of romantic engagement betweeen the two should be removed. For all we know, they are just friends. We know she is married, as she is wearing a wedding ring ... But do we really know for sure she's married to Horace ? --LeoChris 05:44, 28 March 2009 (UTC)

There's no information in the show itself regarding their relationship or her last name. The ABC recap lists her as Olivia Goodspeed and an enhanced episode says they are married to each other. And they were both shown with wedding rings. But one podcast refers to her as his "friend". What seems to be the case is that Olivia was meant to me his wife, but the actress wouldn't come back so they had Horace marry someone else. They haven't yet addressed what decision they've made regarding what Olivia's relationship to Horace will be now that she's no coming back. The best thing to do with this article is simply state the facts: their relationship is not known, and her last name has not been revealed within the show itself, and three different sources outside the show have said various contradictory things about their relationship and her last name. --Jackdavinci 09:13, 28 March 2009 (UTC)

Last Name

Can anyone work out what the file on Olivia says in Mysteries of the Universe part 2? To me, it looks like it may not be "Goodspeed"...--Golden Monkey 17:20, 4 August 2009 (UTC)

The video is way too small and blurry for me to make anything out. I can't even make out which part of the file lists her names.--Baker1000 19:51, 4 August 2009 (UTC)
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