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Remove: Why are the barracks not like they were in the future?
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- I really don't see how this question makes sense, let alone how it's a theory.
- Please correct me if I'm wrong, but it seems obvious to me that the following locations are all the same place:
- The homes of the members of the Dharma Initiative circa the 1970s
- The homes of the Others/Hostiles upon the arrival of flight 815 in 2004
- The dilapidated buildings encountered by Frank and Sun in 2008. The complex suffered significant damage from Keamy's attack in December 2004. The buildings were subsequently abandoned when Ben ordered his people to all go to the Temple, and have fallen into disrepair over three years.
Amandakay1 16:34, 19 March 2009 (UTC)
- Agreed: I think it's been established that they were at the processing center not the barracks when they met Christian -- WhyDidntUKnow 20:35, 19 March 2009 (UTC) (Update: I put it back until there is better clearity on this subject)
- Disagreed:There was a lot of good discussion going on there and there is evidence that the building they're in is not what we think it is. Maybe put the stuff back with a title change? -- highbrow
- Comment. I reworked the piece. It's now titled "The Barracks - Season 5 and before season 5." I know some of it looks like statements, but those statements contribute to the conclusion.--Jim in Georgia Contribs Talk 14:09, 23 March 2009 (UTC)
- So why are statements being left on the theory page? The Mods just adore sweeping through and deleting anything which is not 100% posed as a theory. Oh sorry, I forgot, it's one rule for us and another for the Mods isn't it. --Ben 05:39, 24 March 2009 (UTC)
- The "statement" are there because they are premises supporting the conclusion.
Cleaning the theories page
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I'm going to take a crack at cleaning the theories up a little to make the page more readable, feel free to undo my changes if you don't like how I cleaned the page. --WhyDidntUKnow 20:45, 19 March 2009 (UTC)
- I made the comment about the Processing Center being converted to the Rec Room by the Others. That is clearly disproven by another comment. I stand corrected. Remove it.Annarboral 22:12, 20 March 2009 (UTC)
- Done--WhyDidntUKnow 18:13, 21 March 2009 (UTC)
SPOILER alerter
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Who keeps shouting about "SPOILERS"? Apparently, any rational theory about the future (or past) is now a "SPOILER". Since some of these spoilers are obviously false to anyone with knowledge of the show and the rest are harmless speculation, I'm not sure what this person is upset about. Is this some new way to troll?--Znils 05:30, 20 March 2009 (UTC)
I don't know, but I wish they would stop, I don't feel comfortable removing things from the site, having only removed some "haha lulz" type things in the past. But really, someone braver than I should really yank that stuff. It's just turning it into a duscussion page as people feel the need to 'protect' their theories, etc. Gothfae 08:09, 20 March 2009 (UTC)
--Merged from article--
- Well thank you very much for that SPOILER mister!
- Yeah, it would be a spoiler actually if it weren't for the fact that the poster is inaccurate with regard to what was "spoiled." We never see Sayid trying to shoot Ben. Don't worry, nothing was spoiled.
- I deleted the "spoiler" but just for the record... it was my own guess based upon next week's preview. Not what I'd call a spoiler but... whatever.
- Actually the sneak peaks of coming episodes are regarded as spoilers by alot of people (including myself) so theories based upon them should be posted with caution.
- If it appears on ABC it should not be considered a spoiler. But any thoughts about it should be added to the theory section of the upcoming episode not this one.
- Aside- SPOILERS are DESTROYING THIS WIKI - that 'Ethan is the Baby' Theory was the perfect example - now who could have ever figured that out?!?!
- So the Ethan theory was an example of a good theory, or was an example of what is destroying this wiki? I'm unclear.
- I think they're trying to say it was a spoiler. I'm inclined to agree, there was absolutely no evidential basis on which to say the baby was Ethan; no reason to think it unless you already knew it was true.
- The thing about Lostpedians is that they always find every possibility, no matter how small it seems. There were literally as many theories about the baby's identity as there are male characters around that same age on the show. It should be easy enough to find out whether or not that fact was spoiled by checking DarkUFO's spoilers history. --Cobblepot 11:19, 20 March 2009 (UTC)
- They knew Ethan was the baby because appearently Darlton (or someone anyway) said in a pod cast that we would be seeing Ethans mother this season--WhyDidntUKnow 11:52, 20 March 2009 (UTC)
- It's perfectly possible to guess (it would be a guess, even if a theory) that Ethan would be the baby. But I agree/was told that talking about previews is a spoiler. Not that most people would think that unless told.JEMJEM 16:55, 20 March 2009 (UTC)
- Please read the Spoiler policy page. -Writerstix 13:58, 23 March 2009 (UTC)
Additional Time Travelling (candidate for NAMASTE theory page)
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Ben and Sayid travelled to a separate time and place when Ajira flashed to the island. How was it that Ben was behind Frank after Frank left the cabin? Ajira crashes, Frank sees the copilot, takes his flashlight and heads to the cabin. Comes out, looks around, sees Sun, Ilana and Caesar getting over their bumps and bruises. Then Ben, who was in the back of first class, is magically behind Frank at the cockpit door - all chirpy and not out of breath like everyone else. No apparent crash injuries for Ben, just the fight injuries from before the flight. This may explain why Ben was able to discard the sling for his arm so quickly while leading Sun to the canoe. The sling was for show. He time travelled when the OA4 did. Ben may have been gone for only a few days, enough not to need the sling, but still visibly scarred from his fight, then time flashed back in when he knew that he would be seen on Ajira? No implication that Ben went to 1977 with the O4. I am not even sure Sayid went to 1977 initially, either. The two have been working some really odd angles the past two dozen episodes. Sayid mysteriously escorted aboard Ajira? I think he and Ben are still closely aligned. Sayid is in 1977 for a Ben reason, and Ben took a few extra laps on the Team Hawking timetrack course - to set things up (finalize) the Ajira arrival. Why was Sayid traipsing thru the tall grass when he was discovered? He was on a specific mission that he was assigned before the time flash to 1977. –DocH– my edits 20:38, 21 March 2009 (UTC)
- Ben appeared behind Frank because moments before he had walked into the restroom behind the cockpit, mirroring Charlie's actions in Oceanic 815.
- There's no reason to think Ben 'traveled' anywhere. Sayid went to 1977, just a different part of the island, probably due to where he was on the plane. Ben was not part of the 815 survivors, and should not have flashed elsewhere, and there is no indication he did. His arm may have been fake, or it may have 'healed'. It's not clear who was taking the place of wheelchaired Locke from the 815 flight, but perhaps (and only perhaps) Ben's broken arm was for that.JEMJEM 18:27, 23 March 2009 (UTC)
Swan
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- Swan is less a station than it is a department. Swan is the general supervisory element of the Initiative on-Island. That's why:
- Dr. Chang is assigned to Swan without a station existing.
- Chang (Swan) is called when there's a problem at the Orchid in "Because You Left".
- There are work men assigned to Swan (Roger) and work men on general assignment (Jack). The only thing we ever saw Roger do was drive supplies out to the vicinity of the Swan station on the day of the Purge.
- Later, following the "Incident," the Swan was evacuated (almost) and its primary functions were moved elsewhere. Change was still assigned to the "Swan Department," but his office was elsewhere.
- In passing, "Security" and "Motor Maintenance" (and "Medical") are also departments without stations.
- --Jim in Georgia Contribs Talk 23:32, 21 March 2009 (UTC)
- The Staff could be an outpost for the medical department. And the Barracks (or HQ) would be the location of the other departments.—The preceding unsigned comment was added by Writerstix (talk • contribs) .
- Having had a close-up of Hurley's uniform, we can now add "Food Services" (naming flexible). We also know that Roger mops floors wherever told.--Jim in Georgia Contribs Talk 00:41, 27 March 2009 (UTC)
Hurley's job and the uniforms
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- We know most of the Survivors' jobs at Dharma. Sawyer, Miles, and Jin are security, Daniel appears to be in construction. Juliet is a mechanic, and based on Kate's jumpsuit, it looks like she is too. Jack is a workman. Has anyone noticed what Hurley's job is? Is there a close-up of his jumpsuit anywhere?
-Writerstix 13:51, 23 March 2009 (UTC)
- Although I don't have a close up, when I was watching, if I'm not mistaking Hurleys job was Chef, or something like that it was related to cooking but I'm pretty sure it was chef.--WhyDidntUKnow 14:25, 23 March 2009 (UTC)
- What do the different uniforms tell us? Mechanics wear dark coveralls (to keep the grease from showing?), but there are others. From the new recruit photo:
- Khaki coveralls
- Khaki shirt and trousers
- Khaki dress (button down the front?)
- White blouse with brown skirt
- Uniform assignment doesn't seem to relate to rank. Horace and Jack (and Roger) are in the same outfit (that has to be hot in the tropics, btw).
- Uniform assignment doesn't seem to relate to gender (except there are no men in skirts or dresses).
- --Jim in Georgia Contribs Talk 14:43, 23 March 2009 (UTC)