Talk:Mirrors

Theory Page

Hi everyone, I've added a theories page. The cryptic significance of mirrors seems pretty clear after last night's The Package. I've organized it into a couple categories pertaining to symbolism and relation between timelines. Hope it takes off!

Name Change?

mirrors are sometimes significant in the OT as well; often as a clear crossref to the FST.--Lucky Day 08:47, April 1, 2010 (UTC)

Besides, "Alt" terminology is discouraged by the producers. Mirrors works perfectly fine. If it's decided to keep the focus on the flash-sideways timeline only, then Flash-sideways mirrors. -- Graft   talk   contributions  10:03, April 1, 2010 (UTC)

I didn't think about that when I named the article. I also didn't think of the possible importance of original timeline reflections. I think it's particularly important that the article concentrate specifically on Season 6, since other reflections don't seem to be treated the same way in previous seasons, but other than that, I agree with renaming the article to "Mirrors". Epoch c90 10:20, April 1, 2010 (UTC)

There might be some old easter eggs, I'm thinking if Desmond paused at a mirror in "Flashes Before Your Eyes" that would be signficant. But for the most part the notable scenes are in FST. Duncan905 18:02, April 1, 2010 (UTC)

Also, as long as the article's introduction specifies the focus as character reflections "Mirrors" should work, given the disamb for Ben's signaling plate & the Lighthouse. Darn pesky word "reflections" having 2 meanings - it's a better pointer to the reason for the article than the object, but what can you do. Duncan905 18:26, April 1, 2010 (UTC)

I think that taking the Alt Timeline reference out works. Since the table lists both Alt and Original Timelines it helps to connect the two. --Crazyoldben 19:11, April 1, 2010 (UTC)

Yes, either just "Mirrors" or "Reflections". "Character reflections" also works for me. Referring to the timeline as alternate is frowned upon by TPTB.--Baker1000 19:48, April 1, 2010 (UTC)

Agree with "Reflections", since it's not always a mirror that's used. -- Deltaneos (talk) 20:00, April 1, 2010 (UTC)

Disagree with the name "Reflections". Too vague and has multiple meanings, the least of which is the literal one.--Lucky Day 00:10, April 2, 2010 (UTC)

Strongly feel the entry should be renamed Mirrors. I mean, there's teh lighthouse mirror, that clearly deserves coverage here. -- Falstaft 05:50, April 2, 2010 (UTC)

with changing it to just "mirrors"; "reflections" is too vague, as Lucky Day said. Or "mirror refections" maybe, just reflections will not work, remember a mirror image, whether it's an actual mirror or a reflective surface (even water) it is a duplication of an image that appears identical but in reverse. That's the point, I believe. Some can reflect on something, but it's not in reverse, it is "looking back" but doesn't mean in reverse. Semantics? Sure. But I think the semantic use is important. Iamlost23 23:18, April 2, 2010 (UTC)

What about Character reflections? Michael Lucero * Talk * Contributions

• Please can we just change the name of this article now. It's such a terrible name at the moment. "Alt" isn't even a word.--Baker1000 19:45, April 7, 2010 (UTC)
  • I agree, after watching earlier episodes a few days ago, mirrors were used, a lot - we just didn't see the connection at that time. Iamlost23 18:22, April 12, 2010 (UTC)

Mirrors seems the way to go. Please change, anything is better than "ALT". --Avindratalkcontribs email  21:25, April 21, 2010 (UTC)

• I vote for Mirrors if expanding to include more indications throughout the show, even before season 6. Or Sideways Mirrors if just keeping the article focused on the Flash-sidways in Season 6.

Before Season 6 and the ALTs?

Would be interesting to expand - or create a new article, if it's deemed not relevant to current theories - on mirrors, characters looking at their reflections, before Season 6. I'm thinking in particular of the opening to Season 3 with Juliet looking at herself in the mirror. This seemes to have been a thematic motif long before Season 6, but how cool if this turns out to be references to the flash-sideways, that way back in "A Tale of Two Cities", Juliet was experiencing a moment of slight awareness regarding her alt? This scene was so emotionally powerful with her crying as she stared at her own reflection, that the reveal of the flash-sideways even if it wasn't relevant to that scene, gives it more emotional resonance. That's one of the many things I love about LOST - going back and rewatching earlier entries in series as it unfolds adds extra (if, admittedly, sometimes unintended) layers to many scenes--Jonahwriter 09:47, April 5, 2010 (UTC)

• And "The Constant" - funny I hadn't noticed Sayid leaning into the shot before: [[1]] Duncan905 06:12, April 20, 2010 (UTC)
• Duncan, that is a very cool shot. Will be interesting in a full series rewatch to see if we can grab all these moments and maybe expand this article or create a new one on all character relections. Even this season, in the original timeline, we got that great shot of Jack staring at himself in the water at the Temple.--Jonahwriter 00:31, April 23, 2010 (UTC)
  • It was kind of eerie when the day after I capped that there's a companion scene in The Last Recruit, heh. Duncan905 15:38, April 26, 2010 (UTC)

The Last Recruit

Did Jack see himself in the mirror? I don't think he did. Obviously the camera did, but Jack didn't move his head at all when the camera rotated to reveal Locke's face in the mirror. I think Jack only saw Locke in the mirror, and from his location the mirror wouldn't have been angled for Jack to see himself.--Frank J Lapidus 00:36, April 23, 2010 (UTC)

• Beats me. Probably no one would mind if you changed it. —   lion of dharma    talk    email   02:01, April 23, 2010 (UTC)
• Look at the screencap. He's looking right at his reflection in the mirror. Michael Lucero * Talk * Contributions
• Since Jack did a double-take & leaned in for another look, I think the camera shot is meant to show he saw both reflections. Duncan905 15:37, April 26, 2010 (UTC)

"Everybody Loves Hugo"

Why did Hurley not see his reflection at all in "Everybody Loves Hugo"? There must be some significance in this, after making a point of showing reflections in every other episode. Should there be some note of this in the article? Michael Lucero * Talk * Contributions

Yeah, we should note it somewhere. They made a point of having at least one reflection in every FS, but not in Hurley's. I'm sure there is some significance.--Baker1000 23:19, April 23, 2010 (UTC)

We know some material (featuring Tito) was deleted from the episode. Perhaps the reflection scene ended up being cut as well? Pure speculation, I know, but I just felt like throwing that out there. --LeoChris 04:40, April 24, 2010 (UTC)

Removing first table

I see no point in two tables. One lists info by characters, the other does by episode. The character portal pics add nothing, and the column for "status in original timeline" seems especially useless. --- Balk Of Fame ♪ talk 13:06, September 6, 2010 (UTC)

What about Through the Looking Glass?

When Jack sees Locke in his car mirror at the airport. Why is that not included on the page? --Malcolm David Kelley (talk) 10:59, November 28, 2014 (UTC)

I'm not sure what scene you're referring to. Locke doesn't appear off-Island on that episode, do you perhaps mean a different episode or another character?--Baker1000 (talk) 14:21, November 28, 2014 (UTC)