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I moved the line about Isaac of Uluru being in the hospital from Trivia to Theories because it's by no means definite. Come to think of it, do we need a Trivia section at all here? The fact that it was Adam Rutherford in the other car is already mentioned in the main text.

Okay, can you please sign your posts on talk pages by typing either ~~~ or ~~~~.--CaptainInsano
She was one of the other 48. I wonder if that scene will be included in the S3 Nikki/Paulo episode with Nikki replacing the actress? That would be cool.Jeff 16:56, 20 March 2007 (PDT)

How come we cant have a YouTube vid on there? Copyrights?DeGroot 12:31, 12 December 2006 (PST)

Adam Rutherford

Should we even say here that Adam Rutherford is Shannon's father? Since that's not confirmed until Abandoned, isn't that a spoiler to casual fans or those just discovering the show? To be fair, I understand that this is a synopisis of a 18-month old TV episode. Anyway, thoughts? Jeff 16:53, 20 March 2007 (PDT)

It should be said because all of LostPedia is essentially a huge spoiler for "casual fans or those just discovering the show." If one comes to LostPedia, they should be expecting to have things revealed to them that they may not know (which it says on the front page). It is valid information for us, and for those that it is revealed to, then oh well, they were warned.

Locke's boots.

Why did Locke take his boots off?

Shhh

This was the first thing Walt told Shannon but is not mentioned on this article... Don't you think it bears some relevance? He also said it in Abandoned, right before Shannon was shot. If anything, it should be mentioned as a foreshadowing warning to her death. Had she been quite, she'd be alive. Or is it too far fetched? --AlexAx 11:38, 9 July 2007 (PDT)

Blooper?

Someone added "While Charlie is telling some survivors that nobody is coming to get them, one of the survivors looks briefly to the camera."

I've look for this and can't find it. Anyone have a screencap?--Anfield Fox|talk|contributions 06:50, 5 June 2009 (UTC)

Lord of the Flies?

I think the Lord of the Flies bit under the Cultural References section should be taken out. The episode itself never explicitly makes this reference so it's mere cool coincidence at best. Kind of like a paper topic, but doesn't really belong there. There are a lot of these kinds of things. Woodandiron 03:01, 5 July 2009 (UTC)

  • Agreed. Especially with Lord of the Flies, which could probably be a cultural reference for every episode if defined so loosely. Ianvl 06:49, May 17, 2010 (UTC)

Desmond FB?

Eh!? How is this a Desmond FB? I removed it. I've never heard it's called a FB...unlike Juliet's (where it was clearly a flashback, since it's long ago), this picks up around the same time as Exodus' ending. It's just another perspective on the present action...like how Adrift shows us the same time in the Hatch, but now from Kate and Locke's perspective. That is not considered a Kate and Locke FB by anyone so this should not be listed as a Desmond FB and a Jack FB. And if you decide to persist and make this a Desmond FB, then I'll just go ahead and make every episode with action taking place at the same time as a earlier one a flashback, since evidently you won't mind. :)--Golden Monkey 17:29, 9 July 2009 (UTC)

  • For me, this one could go either way ... We see Desmond doing lots of things in the hatch ... Things that take time (such a showering) and THEN it goes to the last shot of season 1, making it a flashback (of a few minutes / hours) ... And it's the beginning of a season premiere, which, traditionally has nearly always been a flash. Adrift is *clearly* not the same thing ... but I won't debate this any further, since, in the end, I don't really care either way in this particular case. --LeoChris 21:35, 9 July 2009 (UTC)
    • LeoChris just made all my points for me. Furthermore, many people consider the opening of "This Place Is Death" to be a Sun-flashback, which I consider debatable because it shows the same events at the last season of the episode (not different events, as in this episode). But if that one could be considered a flashback, then certainly this one is. But either way, this episode contains a Desmond flashback in the exact same way that "A Tale of Two Cities" contains a Juliet flashback or "The Beginning of the End" contains a Hurley flashforward.  Jimbo the Tubby  talk  contributions  01:36, 10 July 2009 (UTC)
      • was this solved? i attempted to add desmond, because of the comparison to the beginning of the end and a tale of two cities, but it was said to NOT add desmond and to "see talk page". i see no harm in doing it like "centric character: jack", "flashback: desmond & jack".
  • Pictogram reply I think the discussion just kind of died ... but as far as I can tell, right now it's 2 against one in favour of listing Desmond ... you being refered to the talk page (which disagrees with the modification that was made when you were refered to it) is confusing to say the least. --LeoChris 04:39, April 21, 2010 (UTC)
  • My vote goes for no flashback: it is a sequence that ends in the present time of the episode! In any case, it is confusing sense the text describes the sequence in the on-island section, not flashback.Ianvl 21:32, May 3, 2010 (UTC)

Washing machine

Hasn't anyone reflected about that the washing machines that are visible in the Swan station looks a bit newer than the rest of the interior. They look more like a modern type of washing machine and not something from the 70's. So is this something that should fit in under "Bloopers and continuity errors"? /   Dreamingtree72    talk    contribs   20:59, 16 July 2009 (UTC)

  • Doesn't Hurley actually mention this in the episode where he's doing laundry with Rose?  Jimbo the Tubby  talk  contributions  22:14, 16 July 2009 (UTC)
    • I believe it's actually mentioned in another episode (Dave ?) I'm pretty sure the scene involves Hurley and Libby. --LeoChris 00:28, 17 July 2009 (UTC)
  • My take is the new washer & dryer were part of part of a periodic resupply drop. I mean those appliances do wear out. Can't think of any other reasonable explanation. Hatchbanger 14:01, May 3, 2010 (UTC)

Charlie: "there are no others" blooper

I just removed a "blooper" pointing out an inconsistency with Charlie, who says in this episode that "there are no others" even though he says all "they wanted was Clair" in All the Best Cowboys Have Daddy Issues. There are any number of reasons Charlie might choose to not tell the truth, deny what he knows or he may even be convincing himself that he didn't really see what he saw. Not a blooper. Ianvl 21:37, May 3, 2010 (UTC)

Flashback - Desmond?

I removed this. As I said last time this came up, it is not a flashback. It takes place at the same time as the end of season 1, so it is just the present from a different POV. --Golden Monkey 21:09, July 15, 2010 (UTC)

I agree. And there is probably an argument that Desmond's stadium appearance counts as a non-centric flashback. But again, the flashback was from Jack's POV and Desmond just happened to appear in it. It seems people are confused when it comes to main cast having a significant scene in someone else's flashback, as is the case with Boone and Shannon in 1x13. It's like saying 4x10 is Kate centric because she shows up in some of the scenes. We could probably do with some guidelines on the subject, but TBH it's not that hard to wrap your head around.--Baker1000 23:06, July 15, 2010 (UTC)
My personnal opinion on the matter is that it should count as a flashback, simply because it covers Desmond's entire morning(-like) routine. We see him waking up, showering, making a smoothie, pushing the button. All of this takes WAY too much time to simply occur in between the real-time events of Exodus and MoSMoF. It's a flashback to a few hours ago, but it's still a flashback. Obviously, the stadium scene has nothing to do with the issue... I'm not sure why people keep insisting on adding random characters to centricities. Yesterday, someone suggested "Abandoned" might be Sabrina-centric... --LeoChris 23:56, July 15, 2010 (UTC)
And it was suggested that "Ji Yeon" was Ji Yeon Kwon-centric! Probably because the episode was named after her...--Baker1000 16:32, July 16, 2010 (UTC)
  • Umm... Well basically your argument is flawed in that it doesn't take place at the same time as the end of season one, but is a montage of a few hours leading up to the end of season 1. You honestly think that Desmond woke up, showered, ate, immunized himself, excercized, etc... all in the space of the few seconds that Jack and Locke were setting up the dynamite? It takes place *before* the current position in the plot, and is by definition a flashback.  Jimbo the Tubby  talk  contributions  15:21, July 19, 2010 (UTC)

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