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Are we talking about a person, or about the coffin (an item)? I doesn't it makes much sense now, because the person is much more important than the coffin itself --Hunter61 11:58, 23 June 2007 (PDT)

  • But we don't know who the person is. What is someone going to search for when looking for the person or what are we going to name the article? The coffin we can create an article for, it is in essence the person at the moment, who's to say there is even a person in there? -Mr.Leaf 13:12, 23 June 2007 (PDT)
  • Here's our answer: On december 7, 2007 executive producer Carlton Cuse 'fessed up about the person in the coffin seen at the very end of season three. Was it someone we've seen before? "Yes," he said without elaboration. [1]

Can we ad this to the text? Or would this be a spoiler? --Hunter61 10:06, 7 December 2007 (PST)

      • can be sayid, as he goes on dangerous missions for ben, and as he works on ben kate and jack might have turned their backs on him

I was thinking the other day that it could be Sayid too. Because Kate and the rest of the Oceanic 6 wouldn't care because he's working for Ben. But Jack would probably understand because he spent time with the Others. --23 09:40, 3 May 2008 (PDT)

rename

i think that it makes more sense to name it the "Hoffs / Drawlar Coffin" rather than the through the looking glass one. the losties would call it the "Hoffs / Drawlar Coffin" if anything. --Avindratalkcontribs email  16:16, 12 September 2007 (PDT)

  • agreed. It makes more sense. Mia 21:39, 7 September 2007 (PDT)

soooooo, rename? --Avindratalkcontribs email  16:16, 12 September 2007 (PDT)

  • I'll second that.

I vote yes on a rename. [--pom5msu] [--talk] 07:18, 17 September 2007 (PDT)

  • agreed, there seem to be no objections --Hunter61 01:21, 9 December 2007 (PST)
    • Although personally I would vote for "Hoffs / Drawlar deceased" --Hunter61 21:45, 10 December 2007 (PST)
      • But because Cuse has confirmed that the deceased is a character we've seen, then we would effectively have two articles about that individual. I think this article should be focused on the coffin itself, like Christian's coffin. -- Graft   talk   contributions  22:10, 10 December 2007 (PST)
  • Agree with "Hoffs/Drawlar Coffin"; an in-universe title should be used, not an out-of-universe one. -- Graft   talk   contributions  21:52, 10 December 2007 (PST)
  • Agree with "Hoffs/Drawlar Coffin" for same reasons mentioned above (in-universe title, naming by characters.) We know where the location of the coffin is. Once we know who is inside the article can be easily changed to "Character's Coffin." For now, there is a disambiguation page that even with the rename to "Hoffs/Drawlar Coffin" will still have the description of "the coffin from Season 3 Episode Through the Looking Glass." --Uncertainty 09:08, 4 March 2008 (PST)
  • Disagree - Hoffs/Drawlarcoffin is not a good idea. Most people will not know the coffin by that name and the coffin in no way belongs to Hoff/Drawlar as the suggested title would imply. The current naming system which is also used on numerous other pages is the best as until we know anything more definitive about the coffin it can solely be identified by the episode in which it appeared. Suggesting (as the name proposed does) that this coffin belongs to Hoff/Drawlars is incorrect. Also the Losties would in no way refer to it as the Hoff/Drawlars Coffin, they know the name of the person inside, so they would call it so and so's coffin. Also, it is in the best interested for less knowledgeable visitors that this coffin be named in associated with a more prominently known object/name. And visitors are more likely to know or be able to find the name of 3x22 then the funeral parlor it was in.-Mr.Leaf 12:37, 21 December 2007 (PST)
    • I think that it's pretty clear that the coffin doesn't "belong" to Hoffs/Drawlar. Most people visting Lostpedia searching for this page will simply type in "coffin" and it will bring them to a disambiguation page which would show, "Hoffs/Drawlar Coffin, the coffin from Season 3 Episode "Through the Looking Glass, Part 1"" I don't think there would be much confusion. Renaming it to Hoffs/Drawlar Coffin describes the location in which it is seen, as opposed to the episode it was seen in, which is more appropriate for the wiki. --Uncertainty 05:31, 4 March 2008 (PST)
  • Disagree: for now "Coffin (Through the Looking Glass)" is better than "Hoffs/Drawlar Coffin"; an in-universe title can be used if and when the person's identity is known. --   Steff    talk    contribs    email   12:42, 21 December 2007 (PST)
  • Rename: Based on Cuse's admission I think Survivor Coffin or Flashforward Coffin or Unknown Coffin would all be more universally recognized names.
  • Rename - Surely it's better to have the article named after the coffin itself, not the episode it appears in -random2502 12:23, 20 February 2008 (PST)
  • No rename : You cannot use / within article titles easily. It can stay as it is for now, till we get more information, and if you wish to redirect other possible titles, you know what to do :).  Plkrtn  talk  contribs  email  05:44, 11 March 2008 (PDT)

Is it a smaller than standard coffin?

It looks like it, but I thought I read somewhere that the producers said that it was a standard coffin and just looked smaller because of the way it was shot. Anyone have a source? The size issue seems to come up often in speculation and it would be nice to address it. --Minderbinder 11:36, 25 February 2008 (PST)

Maybe it's Ben; we've seen in "The Economist" that Ben has a lot of fake passports, maybe when he worked as Sayid's boss he went by a different name so that the people looking for him (?) wouldn't know who he was.

  • This would make sense because we see that Jack breaks down and thinks that Ben knows how to get back to the island, and he wants to go there. This would also explain why Kate didn't come either A.) She didn't know Ben was going by this name or B.) See didn't care for and didn't want anything to do with Ben. However, we see that in "The Shape of Things to Come," Ben and Widmoore make it clear that they both don't know where the island is, and that they have to look for it. Marko 14:13, 7 May 2008 (PDT)
    • Well, I guess we can put to rest the notion that it was a mini coffin. --Minderbinder 07:34, 30 May 2008 (PDT)

Rename

  • To Locke's Coffin -- Sam McPherson  T  C  E  20:50, 29 May 2008 (PDT)
  • Agree - definitely rename this one. --CTS 20:55, 29 May 2008 (PDT)
  • Redirect to Through the Looking Glass, which can briefly state that the identity of the person in the coffin was a central mystery to Season 4. With the identity now revealed, this article wouldn't serve any clear purpose.--Hylas 21:12, 29 May 2008 (PDT)
    Seconded. --Xbenlinusx 21:14, 29 May 2008 (PDT)
  • We have a protocol to have articles for "items" that play important roles in the show. The coffin is certainly one of them.--Overworkedirish 23:14, 29 May 2008 (PDT)
  • Agree to rename to Locke's Coffin Evil-pineapples 22:12, 29 May 2008 (PDT)
  • Agree --Lilduff90 22:43, 29 May 2008 (PDT)
  • Agree to Locke's Coffin.--Overworkedirish 23:14, 29 May 2008 (PDT)
  • Agree.--     c      blacxthornE      t     01:21, 30 May 2008 (PDT)
  • Agree.to Locke's Coffin. Simplest solution makes the most sense. Jacob's Lather 07:45, 30 May 2008 (PDT)
  • I agree. The old title was only because we didn't know who was in it, and now it can have an in-universe title rather than the out of universe one now.
  • I'd actually prefer "Bentham's Coffin", but would also be ok with Locke's Coffin. --JoeyBags1138 20:22, 30 May 2008 (PDT)
  • Agree to Locke's Coffin. Also, the parentheses with (TTLG) should be removed as the coffin played as much a central part in TNPLH. AlaskaDave 01:51, 31 May 2008 (PDT)
  • Rename to Coffin (Flashforward). Even if we know Locke's inside, it's better not to name it directly. Malachi 04:00, 31 May 2008 (PDT)
  • Rename: To "Locke's coffin" (with a lowercase c). Because it is.--TechNic|talk|conts 08:49, 31 May 2008 (PDT)
  • Rename: To Locke's coffin, and I think it should also be added to Locke's template under 'items'. -- WanderingMathematician  talk  contribs  email  09:36, 31 May 2008 (PDT)
  • Definite rename: It is no longer associated with just one episode, and we know who's coffin it is. --DarthTom
  • I say No, even though everybody said Yes. I know that new people start watching Lost all the time, and they will come to this site before watching all 4 seasons. They will see 'Locke's Coffin' and then they won't be surprised. .. I know that's not a very good reason and it's a vast minority of fans, but that's why I say no. 73rd survivor 13:49, 12 June 2008 (PDT)
  • But that's the same with every article. Those who come onto the wiki should know to be careful about the articles they view, it's common sense. We can't rename pages and stuff like that so people don't get 'spoiled' because the episodes have already aired. -- CTS  Talk   Contribs 13:53, 12 June 2008 (PDT)
I have to say the result is rename. I understand con points raised but we can't constantly worry about non up-to-date people, the main page clearly states Lostpedia runs on current US airtimes, and warns those not there to be careful! Its been our bedrock policy for years (always wanted to say that). --Nickb123 (Talk) 16:24, 19 June 2008 (PDT)

Producton Notes

"Two alternate versions of the reveal were shot showing Desmond and Sawyer in the coffin. "

Source please? --Xbenlinusx 12:00, 30 May 2008 (PDT)

Theofficial reveal was on Good Morning America this morning. But there's articles and video on DarkUfo and DocArzt. --Jackdavinci 12:16, 30 May 2008 (PDT)
You can watch them here: [2] --Minderbinder 12:47, 30 May 2008 (PDT)

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