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Cleanup?

Why has this article been nominated for a cleanup? What is wrong with it that I'm not noticing? --Invertebrat 10:49, 25 July 2006 (PDT)

I was thinking the same thing. --Hiraeth 16:51, 25 August 2006 (PDT)

Well, on second glance, the alphabetizing was all out of whack. I cleaned that up, and alphabetized listed authors by last name. Otherwise -- the only other thins is that I strongly think this article should be renamed to "Literary References". --Hiraeth 17:08, 25 August 2006 (PDT)

Am I correct that the main problem was with the alphabetic order of the items (and this was corrected)? Because it seems ok to me now. The only thing that I can think of is to delete details here that could be directed to "See Main Article"; otherwise it looks alright to me. --PandoraX 14:41, 30 August 2006 (PDT)

Woods

There was a Stuart Woods book on the book shelf in the Swan Bunker. It was published in 2003. Desmond arrived in 2001. So who brought the Stuart Woods book to the Swan Bunker?

Response

Good eye for detail! Who brought the book? -- that's a good question. However, I don't think that the year of the plane crash has ever been mentioned or easily inferred outright. We do know that it has to be sometime after 1980, since that is the copyright date of the film; and also some time after the early 1990's, since Sayid was involved in the first Gulf War. I don't recall any of the characters ever mentioning anything about current world events at the time of the crash...

Also, Jack's luggage tag -- with "the numbers" as the routing code, which had been found in Rousseau's dwelling had a future date on it...I think J/SHEPHARD 09SEPT21 / 4815162342. This observation is mentioned toward the top of "The Numbers" page.

--BrianSTL 09:29, 21 November 2005 (PST)

Based on Sawyer's reaction shortly after the crash to Sayid simply having been on the plane, I would guess that the events took place/are taking place sometime after 9/11.

--Miss Mary Mack 13:11, 21 May 2006 (PDT)

As now revealed, the plane crash was Sept. 22, 2004. So theoretically, it could have been on the plane. Pkal 19:13, 18 October 2006 (PDT)

Two possible explanations spring to my mind. Although I don't know where the book is seen. Is it in a flashback or the "present day"? If it's the latter then it could have been brought to The Swan by one of the plane crash survivors, since we know that they have books. The second possibility is it's inclusion in one of the supply drops.--Unyon 15:10, 10 January 2007 (PST)

Timeframe

The crash was before the Red Sox won the World Series. Jack joked about that in Season 1.


Since the producers could not have known that the Sox would win the series later that year, I don't think that the Sox's win has any bearing on the timeframe of the LOST series.

--BrianSTL 06:50, 23 March 2006 (PST)

Public Domain Books

Are any of the books that have been featured in Lost entered the public domain yet? If so, could it be worthwhile to have these pieces on the site? --Plkrtn 12:51, 23 January 2006 (PST)

Occurrence At Owl Creek Bridge is available in full from a number of websites if that is what you mean by "entered the public domain." I put a mention of the book in the Literary Works section, with a link to a website that has the story and a sidebar with text explaining it. This link would be better placed on a separate page for the book, like the other books on this page, but I don't know how to start a new page. --Stew Erickson 06:21, 9 February 2006 (PST)

Kelvin may refer to Lord Kelvin's Machine, by James P. Blaylock. In the novel, the machine is an electromagnetic device that, if ever used, would destroy the world.

Or to Lord Kalvan of Otherwhen by H. Beam Piper about a man who winds up in a parallel dimension (His real name is Kelvin, it becomes pronounced Kalvan by the alternate dimension's inhabitants)--Tricksterson 08:58, 6 July 2006 (PDT)

Willy Wonka

One of the overdue videos mentioned by Claire in the funeral of the fuselage was "Willy Wonka". Which would be the (1971) Mel Stuart film "Willy Wonka & the Chocolate Factory" i guess rather than the new Tim Burton "Charlie and the Chocolate Factory".

Only a vague reference.. but one none the less.

  • Well, "Jurassic Park" is on the list, and it's pretty likely Nikki was referring to the movie, not the book (she doesn't seem like the reading type). So, I wouldn't have a problem with Willy Wonka being on the list. Burnside65 10:17, 30 October 2007 (PDT)

Books shown physically vs. books referred to verbally

I think that the literary works entioned should be separated into at least two groups...those actually shown, and those referred or alluded to in the characters' conversations. Comments? Other opinions? --BrianSTL 06:45, 23 March 2006 (PST)

Changed my mind about this. Maybe we should just rename the article to "References to Literary Works" or simply "Literary Works" since there are many useful references made, where the work in question does not actually make an appearance. --Nigedo 06:14, 6 July 2006 (PDT)

I think it should be "Literary References" -- go for simple. --Hiraeth 17:09, 25 August 2006 (PDT)

Cleanup

If I can get permission, could I redo this page with simple subsection for books, another for authors, and maybe even characters from stories? I'd, of course, link to either this site with the names or Wikipedia, but it would make the article much more condensed and easy on the eyes. -- ||[ K i t s u n e ]|| 16:11, 17 August 2006 (PDT)

Scratch it, I'm doing it. I'll save the original formatting in MS Word in case it isn't to everyone's liking. -- ||[ K i t s u n e ]|| 16:11, 17 August 2006 (PDT)
Scratch it again, no I'm not. I'll let others handle it, I don't wanna mess it up... -- ||[ K i t s u n e ]|| 05:41, 18 August 2006 (PDT)

Going to get rid of the Silver Chair reference. There is no appearance or mention of the book or any of the events or characters in it and the justification listed is a stretch to say the least.--Tricksterson 09:54, 11 October 2006 (PDT)

Jack's Bookshelf

It it necessary to display the list of every (currently) identified title on Jack's bookshelf? Especially since it's so incomplete. I think that it should be moved to its own page, but I won't take it upon myself to do so. (Kudos to the person who compiled it, though; I'd never have had the patience.) --Invertebrat 12:11, 11 October 2006 (PDT)

Speaking of Jack's bookshelves, there're a couple of books about different colored horses, in particular a Pale horse. These call up images of the Horsemen of the Apocalypse. Significant? Maybe. Worth noting.--NotARedHerring 23:08, 14 October 2006 (PDT)

Rename for capitalization

Adding a book?

How do I add a book? Thanks

Apologies in advance if I mess this up; I am adding Perfume by Patrick Suskind.--MrsFriendly 20:07, 4 February 2008 (PST)

Sawyer's reads

The section on Sawyer's reads is not up-to-date.

YouTube

Doesn't belong in the main article, but here's the 'reading is sexy' fanvid... -- Contrib¯ _Santa_ ¯  Talk  00:44, 8 June 2007 (PDT)

How Hard Would This Be?

This was an idea I had when I was just lurking before I got active in LP. Could we use for every book actually shown not mentioned, the cover from that edition as the pic for a book's individual article? It doesn't have to be a scap from the show, it can be a cleaner copy. Does anyone think that'd be a good idea? If so I'll work on collecting covers, I'm just not great with imbedding photos yet. --Gluphokquen Gunih 08:57, 17 January 2008 (PST)

Delete Hindsight

I don't know how you request an article be deleted, but since Hindsight was actually published in 2005, I'm putting in a vote or whatever that Hindsight be classified as definite prop error, not meant to be analyzed. I.E. we can still look at Rainbow Six, After All These Years, etc. because they still could have arrived at the Swan in food-drops, but I don't think Hindsight should be on this list. Burnside65|talk|contributions 15:34, 25 February 2008 (PST)

Slaughterhouse-five

referenced in several of the episodes, should it be added as well? --Kabooki 21:05, 6 March 2008 (PST)

I agree it should be. The unstuck-in-time thing is right out of the book. It's even in the military. Burnside65|talk|contributions 08:28, 18 March 2008 (PDT)

Perfume

While Perfume is undoubtedly the inspiration for the Nirvana song, it is not directly referenced by Lost. Should it really be included? -- Sam McPherson  T  C  E  11:16, 21 September 2008 (PDT)

I agree and will delete if noone argues within a week--Tricksterson 19:00, 6 March 2009 (UTC)

Done. -- Sam McPherson  T  C  E  15:12, 12 March 2009 (UTC)

Via Domus

There were a few books and referance's in the game LOST: Via Domus that arn't listed. I don't have them all so I didn't post them, They might even be in there I just didn't see them so I thought I'd let you all know.-- SawBucks  Talk  Contribs  21:04, 11 December 2008 (PST)

Island Clue?

In Huxley's novel, Will Farnaby's last name sounds a lot like Faraday. Just thought I'd through that out there! Repsond to my talk page if you agree with me or have any other clues you've found! CharlotteStaplesLewis 19:09, 14 December 2008 (PST)


Delete Dune?

There's no direct reference to it. Books involving space warps and/or messianic leaders are common. Much though I'm a fan of it I don't see why this should be singled out.--Tricksterson 19:04, 6 March 2009 (UTC)

  • I also agree it should be deleted, but I guess it already was! I've been reading all the books on this list, but I guess I wasted my time with Dune. Didn't much care for it, but it was very immersive. Burnside65 05:10, 27 April 2009 (UTC)

A Tale of Two Cities

Does AToTC deserve its own article, because we have ones for Stranger in a Strange Land and The Shape of Things to Come. --Orhan94 19:27, 16 March 2009 (UTC)

Third bulletpoint of Narnia contains some pretty bold statements

Don't you think? ESachs 02:40, 22 April 2009 (UTC)

Book Club - ABC.com

There are a few books from Damon and Carlton's official book club at ABC.com that aren't on this list - http://abc.go.com/primetime/lost/index?pn=bookclub Shouldn't this article at the bare minimum have all the books from their list? I may start making entries for the ones that are missing, and quoting their significance in the story from that website.

Also on this note, Damon and Carlton's list mentions a book called "Hindsights: The Wisdom and Breakthroughs of Remarkable People", by Guy Kawasaki. It's also mentioned as being in What Kate Did, on the Swan bookshelf along with Rainbow Six and After All These Years. That said, I think that adding that other Hindsight book we to this list was a definite error, especially considering the copyright date as I said before. I'm going to go ahead and delete it. Burnside65 05:30, 27 April 2009 (UTC)

The Sun Also Rises

In season 2 episode 15, "Maternity Leave", Ben and Locke are talking about books in the armory of the Swan. They talk about Hemingway and bullfighting, which I feel is a reference to The Sun Also Rises by Ernest Hemingway. --Toxifer 18:07, 3 July 2009 (UTC)

Sawyer's book in Catch-22

Does anyone know what book Sawyer reads in this episode? It's the one he reads in his tent when Kate comes in and jumps him. Burnside65 21:17, October 18, 2009 (UTC)

Question about this page

Is this page meant to focus on references in dialogue or similarities in story? It seems pretty inconsistent to have a clear focus on either. Some of the entries say "______ mentions this book in _______" while other entries say things like "________ is similar to ________ because of ________" Which is the focus? Thoughts?

  • I agree that there ought to be either no books on this page not directly mentioned in the show, or a separate section for them. Certain books like Moby Dick, The Moon Pool, O Pioneers, and The Pearl seem to be really reaching for Lost similarities. As for The Dark Tower 3 and 6 (though I'm the one that added those 2 books), maybe we should just have one mention of the Dark Tower series in general, a la Narnia and Harry Potter.
  • The new "Similar Stories Not Specifically Mentioned in Lost" section could be expanded for the books I mentioned above (though I personally think the points for The Keep are reaching far too far for similarities), but I think doing so would open up a door for anyone to add any book the show has reminded them of to the list. More obvious references such as the Lamp Post being like Narnia, Penny being like in The Odyssey, the bunnies being like On Writing, and the whole show being like The Stand, should stay. The not-so-similar books should be deleted, or moved to an entire separate page for unconfirmed references. Though I imagine that grey area would be a whole new discussion on who makes that call. Burnside65 02:10, May 16, 2010 (UTC)

The Chosen

Is it confirmed that Ben found this book in Sawyer's old tent? If so, should it be added to Sawyer's reading list at the bottom? Burnside65 17:08, April 24, 2010 (UTC)

1984 Literary Connections

1984 is a political novel speaking to the dangers of Totalitarianism. Oceania is the name of the "negative utopia" in 1984. In the book, it is referred to as "Oceanic society," a potential reference from the LOST flight Oceanic 815. The book highlights the concept of Big Brother, who is infallible, all-knowing, and all-powerful. Big Brother monitors the population at all times through two-way screens, hidden microphones, spies, and the Thought Police. Big Brother uses manipulation of people both physically and mentally, material resources, as well as war hysteria, isolation, and other fear tactics, to control every aspect of society. Those who show the slightest deviation from conformity "vanish" from known existence. In 1984, the concept of historical fact does not exist because historical records are constantly edited, updated, and re-edited to reflect the history that Big Brother wants to project, while force-feeding propaganda 24/7 in the form of telecasts that cannot be turned off. The effect of this is not knowing what you thought you knew to be true. The main character makes references to not knowing what year it is or how many years have passed as another result of this constant editing, making time a relative concept. I believe these and many more details of the book correlate with elements of the LOST series. --Summerreader15 (talk) 17:46, August 2, 2015 (UTC)

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