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I'm pretty sure, but still, I want to check: This Other Woman in the promos, it's Isabel correct? Sure looks like Diana Scarwid.--Sauron18 23:29, 16 February 2007 (PST)
I think Isabel is him or her. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Lostnorway (talk • contribs), 20:07, 19 February 2007 (UTC).
Smoke Monster?
Before I watched SIASL I'd heard that Isabel was going to be some sort of judge. The first thing that I thought when I heard that, was when Mr. Eko was seemingly judged by the smoke monster in 3x05: The Cost of Living.
Having watched SIASL, I now believe that Isabel is connected to the smoke monster in some way. Whether she controls it, is it, or it's some extension of psychic abilities she may have, I couldn't say. But there's two points from this episode that make me think this:
The scene in which she talks to Jack in the cage, if you listen carefully, you can hear the same ch-ch-ch, ch-ch-ch noise that the smoke monster makes.
The second point comes from when she's interviewing Jack about Juliet. She obviously knew Jack was lying. I think she was able to look into him, just as the monster would (telepathy perhaps) and know this for certain.--Unyon 00:17, 22 February 2007 (PST)
Isabel's "Chinese"
- I'm Chinese (Mandarin speaker), and I couldn't understand what she was saying at all. She's not speaking Cantonese, by any chance, is she? At first I thought it was just that her accent was horrible, but I couldn't make out any of the words at all, even knowing she was trying to translate to Jack's tattoo "He walks among us, but he is not one of us" (a BS translation in itself, since it says something different. Someone who posts podcast questions should ask why they don't just get better advisors on the show. :) --PandoraX 04:45, 22 February 2007 (PST)
- Someone at the Lost-Forum said she was speaking (very bad) cantonese. --Sauron18 05:04, 22 February 2007 (PST)
Dead?!
At comicon, the producers showed us a clip of a featurette that would be on the season three dvd. They had a "memorial" for all of the deceased others in the clip, and isabel was mentioned as having been killed. I came here to check and see if there was some mention of her death that I missed, and shes listed as alive. Im kind of confused as to what happened to her and how they could let something like that slip on the DVD...anyone? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Lost Logos (talk • contribs) 05:33, 31 July 2007.
- Been wondering that myself ever since reading the comicon transcript. I suppose there's no chance they could've meant Diane, the Other grunt who ran up to Pryce on the beach to inform him that the tents are marked and who was promptly killed during the attack a minute later. She's too inconsequential a character for her death to merit a specific mention like Damon made. --Boyen 05:02, 10 August 2007 (PDT)
- Isabel, on the other hand, was thoroughly introduced to us in episode 3x09 and received quite a bit of screen time and focus in that episode. Not to mention her significance to the plot, being the Others' "Sherriff" and Grand Inquisitor of sorts. If she took part in the attack on the beach camp and there perished, I would expect them to show that happening or at least make mention on the show that she was there, as part of Pryce's squad. --Boyen 05:01, 10 August 2007 (PDT)
- Perhaps she's dead in the Mikhail sense of 'dead'.--J-- 07:35, 10 August 2007 (PDT)
- I think she is dead in the sense that they don't intend to bring the character back again. They only used her once last season which itself says alot. The woman who played her is a really experienced character actress. It was always strange to bring her in for one episode. Maybe plans changed or something happened. Nobody outside the production will likely ever know. But its very interesting that a one-episode character was so on their mind that they specifically call her out as dead six months later. The bigger thing going on is that the show is changing focus away from the Others after this season and part of that process was clearing out known characters. At the start of season three, what I was hoping for is a gradual culling of the dead weight in the main cast and their replacement with new actors/characters with new stories to tell. But it didn't happen. Dharmatel4 10:06, 11 August 2007 (PDT)
- It's sort of cheap, but we never actually saw all ten Others that were invading the beach, so they can say (possibly in season 4 Ben will mention it) that Isabel was one of the ten. Perhaps they intended to show Isabel, but the actress couldn't make it to Hawaii. For the purpose of the story, if Isabel was always intended to die in the finale, you can't really hold it against the producers that they didn't change her death just because scheduling kept her from being there (if that's what it was), except maybe when Tom listed some of the dead... he should have said Isabel instead of Diane, because we saw Diane die. Bookhouse88 08:28, 3 September 2007 (PDT)
- While on one hand, I have no reason to doubt a direct statement of Isabel's death/demise from Carlton and/or Damon - on the OTHER HAND, they've stated in podcasts and at conventions in the past that other characters/actors (Cindy, Mikhail, etc.) were "dead" and that we "wouldn't be seeing them again" only to have them return post-said statements. I'd certainly like to see more of Isabel, as she's probably the most compelling "Other" that was introduced in S3 next to Mikhail, and it almost seems unfair that they would leave her character un-explored after the last we saw of her. Frankie Viturello 01:40, 26 December 2007 (PST)
