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Ilana ignoring Hurley's warning

So, I added this as a UQ, asking why she blatantly disregarded Hurley's warning about the unstable dynamite. This is clearly an important question to ask, as it defies logic for a wise and intelligent person such as Ilana to pile bottles of water on clearly sweating explosives. There must be more to this act than meets the eye, and so I feel it is a justifiable unanswered question and should not have been removed. --Stack0487 20:35, April 15, 2010 (UTC)

Rename

Agree: Even the DSA email spelt it as Ilana.--Baker1000 11:03, 19 February 2009 (UTC)

Agree: It was a spelling error on my part. -- Sam McPherson  T  C  E  13:03, 19 February 2009 (UTC)
Agree: Obviously. -- COMPOSSIBLE  Talk  Contribs  22:57, 19 February 2009 (UTC)
Agree: If that how it was released as then yes.--Deuce Dubbington XVII 23:39, 19 February 2009
Agree:Because it's a spelling problem. Rzolee8

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Disagree: Should be titled Worst Actress Ever. Jack Dutton 20:11, 9 April 2009 (UTC)
  • Good enough. Spelling fixed. --Marik7772003 19:16, 20 February 2009 (UTC)

Ajira website

She was in one of the images on the Ajira websites, right? --Kemot from Poland 16:52, 19 February 2009 (UTC)

Yes--Deuce Dubbington XVII 23:39, 19 February 2009 (UTC)

Did she know Caesar prior to the flight?

This UQ seems like speculation to me, as we have nothing to indicate that it is the case and I think it should be removed.  Jimbo the Tubby  talk  contributions  07:40, 6 March 2009 (UTC)

Well to me they seemed awfully buddy-buddy on the Island and seemed to take charge of the rest of the survivors together. Such as Ilana was asking what Caesar was finding in the Hydra room - why is it her business? Yet Caesar seemed fine reporting to her and such. Also, the same UQ is on Caesar's page and no one has tried to remove it at all. meggie ~ Talk & contribs 19:22, 6 March 2009 (UTC)
Jack and Kate got along well after 815 crashed, same with Hurley and Sayid. I don't think it's strange that people would cooperate with eachother after a plane crash. If they knew eachother, why was there no sign of it on the plane? As for the UQ being on his page as well, it's easier for people to discuss it in one place.  Jimbo the Tubby  talk  contributions  19:28, 6 March 2009 (UTC)
Well from what I'm seeing now, this is something that every person is going to interpret differently. So for now is there really much harm in leaving it up there? meggie ~ Talk & contribs 19:50, 6 March 2009 (UTC)
He was hiding the gun from her. He obviously wasn't on her team. Parableman 03:24, April 21, 2010 (UTC)

Hired by Avellino's family?

Can we be sure that she was actually hired by Avellino's family? It seems much of a coincidence that they told her to take that particular flight. It's much more probable that Ben Linus hired her, either by phone or through a third person, acting as if he were someone from Avellino's family. I suggest we change the first sentence and include "supposedly" hired by Avellino's family.--Forloyo 09:56, 26 March 2009 (UTC)

That's theory-baiting, which it's best to avoid. By the best of our knowledge, she was hired by Avellino's family.  Jimbo the Tubby  talk  contributions  18:30, 26 March 2009 (UTC)

Only Ben knows Sayid killed Avellino, and only Ben needs Sayid on Ajira 316. It is a safe bet the Avellino family has no idea who Sayid is. --BlueBeard 22:16, 1 April 2009 (UTC)

Possibly, but at best it's still a theory.  Jimbo the Tubby  talk  contributions  22:31, 1 April 2009 (UTC)

Instead of saying "supposedly hired by", why not say "claiming to work for"? That way we know the identity of her employer came directly from her. --Celebok 22:51, 1 April 2009 (UTC)

Works, imo.  Jimbo the Tubby  talk  contributions  23:05, 1 April 2009 (UTC)

Role on Flight 316

It is rather speculative to say that Ilana served as the role of Marshall Ed Mars from the original flight. Maybe she did, but the whole "recreate the circumstances of the orignal flight" thing more likely pertains only to the people who left and not everyone on the plane. If you start down that road, it quickly becomes absurd. Perhaps Ilana served the role of Anna Lucia. And who served the role of Rose and Bernard? And was Ceasar in the role of Eko? And so on and so on..... Rlintw 03:57, 31 May 2009 (UTC)

Sarah?

In "Namaste" when Illana wakes up on Flight 316 she whispers "Sarah?" in confusion, and Caesar says "No, my name is Caesar". I'm very sure she says Sarah, so would "Who is Sarah?" be a valid Unanswered Question? It reminds me of when we saw R.G. on Naomi's bracelet and we still don't know who that was. --Integrated (User / Talk) 15:30, 1 April 2009 (UTC)

Doesn't she say "Jarrah"? It makes sense since she'd obviously be concerned about Sayid escaping if she were escorting him.  Jimbo the Tubby  talk  contributions  15:38, 1 April 2009 (UTC)

  • I checked, it's Jarrah definitively, not Sarah. --Orhan94 17:43, 1 April 2009 (UTC)
  • Ahah didn't think of that! Pity she and Sayid aren't on first name terms. --Integrated (User / Talk) 18:21, 10 April 2009 (UTC)
  • I checked, reran it it numerous times. There is no way she says "Jarrah". It's "Sarah", clear as day, clearly starts with an "S". It's also not out of left field for that name to mysteriously come up. Aside form Jack's wife, the whispers transcripts have revealed the name "Sarah" mentioned numerous times (as two separate voices talking to each other and one of them being named Sarah"), so it's likely a character that will ultimately be revealed. I have no idea if this will be the same Sarah, but regardless, she clearly says "Sarah" when she wakes up.
    • I rerean it numerous times too, and she definitely says "Jarrah" (though her pronunciation of the J is a little odd, which is where all this Sarah stuff comes from), and then looks over to where Sayid was sitting. She's asking about her charge, not some mysterious girlfriend or sister or whatever. The emphasis she uses helps support "Jarrah" too. If she had said "Sarah", she'd have put the emphasis on the first syllable, but her emphasis is on the second, like whenever Sayid pronounces his last name. Illyrias Acolyte 18:14, 13 April 2009 (UTC)

Identity

No but really, who is she?! It seems she's emerging as possibly quite an important character, and I hope she stays on to become main cast next season like she and Caesar were meant to this one! Does anyone know why they weren't? 01lander 20:13, 13 April 2009 (UTC)

Ilana's Flashback

Earlier someone editted the article to say that Ilana was the thirty-first character to recieve a flashback due to her scene with Jacob in the Russian hospital in "The Incident". It was subsequently reverted with this message:

04:54, 14 May 2009 Illyrias Acolyte (Talk | contribs) (9,667 bytes) (The flashback was for Jacob, not Ilana. Ilana was a character in Jacob's flashback like she was in Sayid's) (undo)

My question is, what leads you to think this flashback is from Jacob's POV rather than Ilana's? Before the scene is initiated, the only character present is Ilana, walking into the cabin. Jacob isn't there. The flashback begins with the bedridden Ilana opening her eye, and carries out for some time before Jacob enters the scene. It is clearly her flashback. --Pa dutch 07:44, 14 May 2009 (UTC)

  • Confusion on my part I guess. Either it's a Jacob episode and all the flashbacks are from his PoV, or it's a various episode with a flashback from Ilana in it. But that's neither here nor there, and has little to do with this page. Illyrias Acolyte 17:44, 14 May 2009 (UTC)
    • It's a various episode. While the main focus was definitely Jacob, the flashbacks clearly belonged to the characters that were being visited. It has that flashback quality. The camera lingered on Ilana for a second with the whooshing sound and everything. All the characters had flashbacks, but they just prominently featured Jacob. They weren't his per se.--Nick40292 20:23, 15 May 2009 (UTC)
      • Then shouldn't the episode be changed to reflect that? If the flashbacks all didn't belong to Jacob... never mind: another subject for another talk page. Illyrias Acolyte 02:43, 16 May 2009 (UTC)
        • Yeah, the consensus on that talk page was that it was Jacob centric but the flashbacks belonged to the characters. So should Ilana's page have the "Centric: The Incident" thing? Because it's not really her centric, just her flashback. If it doesn't list her, then everyone who had flashbacks in Exodus should have the centric thing from their page removed.--Nick40292 02:02, 17 May 2009 (UTC)

In 316 she's looking at Kate, who's sitting on a chair. There are on the airport. She not met her but briefly saw her. Am I right?--Station7 18:32, 17 July 2009 (UTC)

Language used in the hospital?

It would be helpful if someone could confirm what language Ilana & Jacob were speaking to each other in the beginning of Ab Aeterno in the Russian hospital. It sounded Russian, but I don't want to automatically assume it is. Gingle87 14:25, March 29, 2010 (UTC)Gingle87

  • It was Russian. --Orhan94 06:19, March 31, 2010 (UTC)

Redshirt

  • I found it interesting that for her entire time on the island she was wearing a red shirt, which usually means the character is going to die. But she only dies when she changes her shirt. I just thought that was interesting.--—The preceding unsigned comment was added by [[User:{{{1}}}|{{{1}}}]] ([[User talk:{{{1}}}|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/{{{1}}}|contribs]]) .
    • The Island is done with the cliche of killing redshirts.--Tim Thomason 02:59, April 21, 2010 (UTC)

Verdansky?

I'm pretty sure the last name was Rodansky. Can anyone confirm/deny? Gefred7112 02:33, April 21, 2010 (UTC)

  • Subtitles listed it as Ver...something. I didn't catch the exact spelling and unfortunately didn't tape the episode, but Verdansky sounds about right. --LeoChris 02:51, April 21, 2010 (UTC)
    • It sounded like Verdansky to me (definitely not Radzinski). I didn't have CC on, but it's up as Verdansky elsewhere on the site.--Tim Thomason 02:59, April 21, 2010 (UTC)
      • Pretty sure I saw "Rod[...]" on the glass door. I'll check once it's online. Gefred7112 03:01, April 21, 2010 (UTC)
  • Verdansky only applies to her flash sideways name. Eloise, Daniel & Penny all had different last names. We can't assume it's the same unless confirmed by Damon & Carlton.--Ticktock24 03:09, April 21, 2010 (UTC)
  • Pictogram reply Our naming policy so far seems to be that names transfer over unless otherwise indicated. See Douglas Brooks, Lynn Karnoff (flash-sideways timeline), etc. Eloise and Daniel's last names, just like Ethan's have logical reasons for being different. Penny's is still a mystery, but I don't think we're wrong to assume Verdansky is her last name in both timelines. It's not like she's wearing a wedding ring in either one. --LeoChris 03:18, April 21, 2010 (UTC)
    • Ilana also has an incredibly mysterious past, apparently native Russian in one timeline but she's an American attorney here. But yeah, we should assume same name unless proven otherwise.--Tim Thomason 03:20, April 21, 2010 (UTC)

I'd have to watch it again, but what about Vernadsky instead of Verdansky? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vladimir_Vernadsky --Scaliatron 03:43, April 21, 2010 (UTC)

  • Oh, and by way of explanation, "d" and "n" are both voiced dentals, just "n" is nasal; and Desmond rolls his R's, so I think it would be pretty easy to hear the "d" and "n" switched, and with Vernadsky we have a classic Lost philosopher/scientist reference--Scaliatron 03:47, April 21, 2010 (UTC)
  • Regardless of the answer to this question i think her name should remain as just Ilana in the OTL. We should only use her last name in the FST where we have actual confirmation of her last name. But anyways was she wearing a wedding ring in the FST? Jdray 04:02, April 21, 2010 (UTC)
    • No, she wasn't, and Desmond called her Ms. as in not married (though it can sometimes apply to a married person as well). I disagree though, there's no reason whatsoever to assume she has a different name. The others with changed last names all make complete sense. This it would just be pointless to give her different last names. Darlton was obviously trying to tie up her character by giving her a last name, and it should transfer over unless proven otherwise.--Nick40292 15:28, April 21, 2010 (UTC)
  • There is no reason whatsoever to assume she has the same name. Her having a differnet last name does make complete sense. This is pointless to give her the same name. Darlton was obviously trying to show us the difference between the two characters by not revealing her last name in one timeline and revealing her last name in the other. It should not transfer over unless proven. Jdray 15:56, April 21, 2010 (UTC)
  • Looks like I was wrong and it was definitely Verdansky: [1] Gefred7112 04:35, April 21, 2010 (UTC)
    • As long as this article is titled "Ilana Verdansky", we should state somewhere in the article that the surname is an assumption based on the name of her flash-sideways counterpart. I have edited the Trivia section accordingly [2] but I wonder if this bit of information should be in the first paragraph of the article. LOST-Kuzak 03:58, April 23, 2010 (UTC)
  • We should assume it is her name in both timelines. The only times the names are not the same there's a obvious cause (Ethan not joining the Others, Charles marrying Eloise instead of Penny's mom). I see no reason for Ilana's to be different, and it's unlikely we'll get any more answers about her before series end. --Golden Monkey 04:45, April 23, 2010 (UTC)
  • It makes it so that we can have one article named Ilana and another named Ilana Verdansky and we don't have to have the unneccessary (Original timeline) or (flash-sideways timeline) qualifiers after one or both of their names. Anytime we can avoid that we should. Jdray 10:01, April 23, 2010 (UTC)

Ab Aeterno centric?

Yes, I know Ab Aeterno isn't really HER centric, but it has a flashback for her in it, so shouldn't we list that along with The Incident? I mean, The Incident isn't really her centric either, but she still has a flashback in both, so shouldn't both be listed?--Nick40292 15:47, April 21, 2010 (UTC)

Neither should be centric. Centric means circling around or centered around. Neither episode centered around Ilana. Michael Lucero * Talk * Contributions
Yeah, but on her page (and everyone else's page who got a flashback in The Incident), it is listed as her centric.--Nick40292 21:21, May 23, 2010 (UTC)
We had consensus to list The Incident on everyone's pages, because while the focus of the episode was Jacob there was only a single flashback from his point of view and the rest were from the POV of other people. --Golden Monkey 21:38, May 23, 2010 (UTC)

Dynamite UQ

  • I really don't see this as a valid question... it's not a major mystery. She either made a stupid mistake or was overconfident enough to ignore Hurley's warning. A decision taken by a character, even if it seems out of character and/or plain stupid shouldn't be concidered a mystery unless the character itself is mysterious (like say MIB or Jacob). Thoughts? --LeoChris 04:30, August 4, 2010 (UTC)