in "dave" we find out that hurley was on a deck that collapsed when he stood on it. the Dr. says that "it was built to support 8, but 23 people were on it". 8 and 23 are in "the numbers". Please add this . -- JoshHighland
Its interesting that he positively had to battle his way onto the fateful flight.
The numbers are also significant during the whole rush from his hotel room to the plane. Its almost like they are trying to stop him coming to harm or even from coming to the island where he has some idea of what they might mean.
Kate overhears Hurley mention 23 and recalls that was the reward the farm would have got for her arrest. Could this be the start of people noting the numbers were significant in their own lives. We haven't seen that so far.. and we only note them because we have the luxury of 20/20 hindsight in flashbacks.
User:MRNasher
By the time that the plane crashed Hurleys fortune had risen from 114 million to 156 million, 42 million more.... 42 people, 42
Please add a wiki-link to Hurley's grandfather. Thanks. -- Elvis 10:01, 28 March 2006 (PST)
You might want to say how Hurley has been sort of the writers' way to echoing or addressing fan theories and criticism. For example, he pointed out how strange it was that no one wanted to find out more about the Monster ("yeah, that's weird") and how hard it is to keep up with which characters know which other characters' secrets. The episode Dave seems to corroborate this idea, as he suspects the island is just a figment of his imagination. (Denied by the producers, but the fans won't accept it.)
Also, could I have sysop privs?
You're asking Hurley to make you a sysop? ;) If you want rights to edit the page, I can unprotect it but I'd rather wait over the weekend before doing so as the last "incident" we had was on a friday (if I remember correctly).
I noticed how Charlie out of the blue asked if anyone had seen a plane, the comment itself was totally out of the mood of the scene and it really seemed like a late addition to the script. Makes me wonder how much do the producers & writers actually follow the discussion online, as it was one of the questions after the last show. Ofcourse, it's my understanding that most of the episodes have been filmed before shown on tv. So maybe some questions raised in a screening answered in the next episode's dialogue. --skks 06:36, 6 April 2006 (PDT)
All episodes are filmed before before shown on TV. It's kind of hard to broadcast a show that hasn't been filmed. It would be nearly impossible for the producers to shoot a new scene and go through all the post-production work to insert it, even if they wanted to (they are too busy shooting new episodes). However, the producers do read about online theories, and sometimes address them. A whole episode (Dave) explored the idea it was all happening in one person's mind, and Sawyer proposed the alien theory in Live Together, Die Alone.
Am I the only person who considers Hurley to be the anti-Mr. and Mrs. Howell? I mean, he's filthy rich, but doesn't expect any special favors from everybody else because of it. His millions are worthless on the island, and he knows it. Maybe if Nikki and Paulo had realised the diamonds were worthless on the island they'd be... happier. JeffreyLV 00:32, 30 March 2007 (PDT)
Possibly named after real life poet?[]
I was browsing random Wikipedia pages and hit one for "Hugo Raes" which made me stop for a second. Apparently he was a Belgian writer and poet, born in 1929. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hugo_Raes -- robstandard 11:30, 26 February 2009 (PDT)
Addictions[]
Hurley tries to handle his addiction of eating by destroying the food, and then a load of it just falls from the sky. Reminds me of Charlie, who stopped using heroin only to find out that a load of it has fallen from the sky as well. Some similarities here. --skks 06:29, 6 April 2006 (PDT)
I agree... Very interesting. --Admin 20:59, 6 April 2006 (PDT)
Eating is a symbol, so are the numbers and the money. You would think that being able to talk and interact with with dead and the living would be a blessing. No, it is a curse. It aint easy being green as Kermit the frog has said
Locked Editing of Pages[]
It really sucks having pages locked so genuine and honest editors cant edit directly.
I know theres a good reason for this.. would it be possible to apply as an editor.. i think I've been here a month and caused no trouble.
It does undermine the whole point of a wiki, something i know the original Wiki has had great issues with.
--MRNasher
I agree. I'll be around today to keep an eye out for our friend. I unprotected the hurley page for now since this episode focused on him. Jabberwock talk contribs email - 06:59, 6 April 2006 (PDT)
New Facts[]
Killed 2 people in a stage collapse accident.
Was institutionalised in the same place as Libby.
As someone who LOOKED like, and was played by the same actress as, Libby.
Has an eating disorder.
Has an imaginary friend called Dave who is a self destructive influence on him.
Like I said before, personally, I'd really like to wait atleast over friday. Maybe having the one page protected that he loves to edit has an effect enough to keep him away. We'll see what happens in the future, hopefully things calm down enough to unprotect. I can edit this stuff in if it helps satisfy your lust of information sharing. :) --skks 06:54, 6 April 2006 (PDT)
Seems to be one of the theories on their respective articles, whether this is true or not hasn't been verified yet and probably won't be until the next Hurley flashback - or even then. I wouldn't say it like that either, Hurley was involved in an accident where people were killed, he probably didn't intentionally kill anyone --skks 18:37, 17 April 2006 (PDT)
Regarding the theory that Locke was hurt by the deck, I find this highly unlikely... Locke would probably be familiar with Hurley as a result, and yet ... he isn't. -- Xsg 20:29, 11 May 2006 (PDT)
Hurley had just walked onto the deck when it happened. If the deck was already crowded and Locke's back was turned...--Amberjet11 09:01, 12 May 2006 (PDT)
I dont think Hurly killed Starla or Johnny. We see them after Hurly won the lotery and he didnt win untill after he was released from the institution.--Dicola 20:34, 11 May 2006 (PDT)
One big glitch is that Hurley didn't own the company until after he'd won the lottery which in turn wasn't until after he got out of being in the mental institution for having the breakdown caused by the accident.--Tricksterson 09:20, 1 June 2006 (PDT)
Recap: The deck incident DID NOT involve Starla, Johnny or Locke.--Phil (talk) 06:39, 29 April 2007 (PDT)
Speculation[]
Earned the nickname "Hurley" because of his reaction to seafood.
Never won the lottery - was all a hallucination, and he's still crazy. Saw the numbers for the first time on the hatch door, but he imagined that those were the same numbers used to win the imaginary lottery.
Unlikely, he can clearly be seen in one of Jin's flashbacks on a TV screen, this suggests that Hurley winning the lottery did in fact really happen.
Was in fact insane before causing the deaths on the bridge. The trauma just brought the symptoms back on. The medication he took for his mental illness (possibly schizophrenia) caused his weight gain.
snowman joke[]
Can anyone confirm that he tells the snowman joke in episode 3? I did a search through a transcript and found nothing of the sort.
He said they joke at sometime. I am 100% sure of this. PS please sign your comments that are on talk pages.--CaptainInsano
The Others[]
I believe my theory is valid. Like I posted, he was there before the plane crashed and grabbed the manifest as soon as he could. Or he landed, quickly got his bearings, encountered a member of the Others and made a deal with them to keep him safe in exchange for information. In his flashbacks he was not very assertive or commanding. He is always asking people to keep him in the loop, and he is usually pretty gossipy. How does a fat guy like that stay so fat on an island. Without McDonalds or Pizza Hut, I would think he'd be getting slim.
Yes he's still fat, but there's no food shortage and it's only been about 100 days--Gaarmyvet 14:07, 2 May 2008 (PDT)
Or he could just be crazy.
HaroO 04:09, 12 September 2006 (PDT)
Note: In the hallucination Locke had, Everyone who was an "other" was personnel at the airport. Hurley was the ticket agent at the airport. I think Hurley is definitely an Other, and just has not been revealed yet to be so. If you observe other "symbolic" dreams where the others occur as one groups of people, Hurley is always in the group with the Others rather than with the crash survivors. Especially interesting is the fact that Hurley is a ticket agent, and Ben was a security guard. I think that dream sequence gives away a lot of the structure of the Others.
I'm not buying what you are selling. Hurley was on the plane and is thus not an other.--ASEO 11:16, 3 November 2006 (PST)
Seriously needs a rewrite[]
I'd be willing, but good googly goo! This page is an entire mess. It's hard to know where to begin. :( Magnoliasouth 18:43, 8 October 2006 (PDT)
I have updated the Hurley article. Granted, while I copied the Wikipedia Hurley article as a basic article, I Lostpediafied it, which was not a simple process. I inserted sentences as well as whole paragraphs of information previously listed as bullets and I updated links to fit the Lostpedia format. It could use more work, and I'll tinker more with it as time allows. For now though, I think this is much easier to follow than the previous page. Magnoliasouth 21:54, 8 October 2006 (PDT)
It's an interesting video, but it has nothing to do with Lost--Gaarmyvet 14:09, 2 May 2008 (PDT)
Deleted mentions of Schizophrenia[]
This is a huge pet peeve of mine as a psychiatrist, but not every person who suffers from psychotic symptoms is diagnosed with schizophrenia, a discrete syndrome with DSM criteria. There are other causes of hallucinations, illusions and delusions, including brief psychotic disorders, schizoaffective disorder, etc., and some forms of major depression. So we can't assume anything, since schizophrenia is not mentioned as canon in the transcript (we only know the diagnosis of Emily Annabeth Locke). --PandoraX 17:12, 18 January 2007 (PST)
anyone know where I can find the image of Hurley with his arm around "Dave"? (Idejmcd 20:40, December 17, 2009 (UTC))
agree with Pandora X--Past recaptured 18:44, August 5, 2010 (UTC)
Plagarism[]
Much like Walt's page, this page appears to be vandalized.
User:Magnoliasouth appears in the history, but only once (on the same date as the lostpedia revision) and makes a minor edit. The overall format is the same, except for edits made independently of each other since then on the two seperate articles.
--Semidelicious 20:12, 26 January 2007 (PST)
Nevermind, it's already listed above. I think it should be rewritten even more though, the first several paragraphs are just like the wikipedia article --Semidelicious 20:17, 26 January 2007 (PST)
Again thank you for pointing that out.--CaptainInsano 12:02, 30 January 2007 (PST)
Rewrite[]
Just done a quick rewrite on before the crash but it needs a bit of a clean-up. --Princess Dharma(banned) 12:58, 4 February 2007 (PST)
I had already rewritten 'before the crash'; 'season 1' and half of 'season 2' --Princess Dharma(banned) 10:34, 6 February 2007 (PST)
Oh well that's a merticulous rewrite gone. --Princess Dharma(banned) 10:44, 6 February 2007 (PST)
Rename[]
I think this page should be renamed to just Hugo Reyes and the first line could be something like "Hugo Reyes, also known as Hurley, ...", as the nickname in between seems unnecessary. Wikipedia's convention is to have the character/person's most common name be used, and then their full title in the actual article (ie. The "Prince" page is titled "Prince", and the first line says his full name of 'Prince Rogers Nelson'). --SilvaStorm
Disgree IMO, the naming format for both Hurley and Sawyer is very suitable for its purpose.-- 02:11, 11 February 2007 (PST)
But it still makes it difficult for links to work if they have to be redirected constantly. --SilvaStorm
Actually, moving articles around for no good reason is what makes links not work, no offense... but this is not necessary in the case of many of these nominations... everytime we move an article, people have to correct a bunch of redirects, and confusion ensues. Sometimes it is necessary and better if there's a good reason, but in this case, the logic makes no sense (if it were analogous to Prince, this would just be "Hurley"). Also, with redirects, it's a moot point, no one has any trouble finding this article. --PandoraX 19:31, 18 February 2007 (PST)
Sorry, but I don't see the difficulty. If you search using "Hurley", "Hugo" or "Hugo Reyes", all will lead you to this page. If the problem is in the redirection, I don't think that it's much trouble either. Even at WP, you'd find a controversy at some point about the names selected for articles, since it will remain a subjective matter as long as there is no code for the naming convention. Because of that, redirection is a very commonly approach there. Thus, I think the real problem to discuss here may be if this name is the most suitable, and based on ur argument above (WP using the most common name), I think that If we should ever change the name, it should be to simply: "Hurley". Given that this is not suggested so far, I believe the current name is the most suitable. However, if "Hurley" is suggested, I may reconsider my vote-- 00:23, 12 February 2007 (PST)
Disagree by that logic, it should be renamed to just Hurley- the name he's most commonly known by, and that already redirects here. -BearDog 12:11, 12 February 2007 (PST)
Strong disagree Please read our article naming MOS before nominating articles for rename. --PandoraX 19:22, 18 February 2007 (PST)
Disagree I also think that the page should be taken out of Category:Rename, since apparently no one agrees with SilvaStorm Triptolemus 11:33, 19 February 2007 (PST)
DisagreePrincess Dharma(banned) 14:03, 20 February 2007 (PST)
Mistake[]
Hi should I change this:
'Hurley and Desmond are later seen going through Sawyer's tent looking for food and whatever else they can find when they are approached by Desmond and asked if they could go with him.'
To Hurley and Charlie?
--Bassdude 14:26, 17 February 2007 (PST)
Sure go ahead. You don't usually need to ask about minor edits such as that though.--Princess Dharma(banned) 14:35, 17 February 2007 (PST)
Cool thanks I forgot aint been on here for ages lol --Bassdude 14:45, 17 February 2007 (PST)
I Have a Question?[]
When hurley gets slapped by his mother why does he feel the other cheek?
i just wanna know? --Project X 19:29, 6 March 2007 (PST)
Falling guy[]
Could the falling guy from season 1 flashback be Locke and not *committed* suicide afterall? Ditikos 17:07, 22 March 2007 (PDT)
I assume you are talking about the episode 'Numbers', where Hurley is talking to his financial advisor. It is unlikely that this man is Locke, as he was already in a wheelchair and would not likely survive a fall of the magnitude that the man in the episode fell. The season 1 flashback was around 2003, while Locke was in a wheelchair from about 2000.--Phil 17:10, 22 March 2007 (PDT)
Hmm you are right! -- Ditikos 07:06, 23 March 2007 (PDT)
Rename[]
Strong disagree--Catalanowned 09:56, 26 May 2007 (PDT)
The current name is accurate, but very impractical and cumbersome. We should avoid needlessly long names whenever possible, as they make it far more difficult to type out the real article name. Check out what links here: of the articles linking to this page, the overwhelming majority use Hurley, rather than the much more difficult to type out "Hugo "Hurley" Reyes". There is no practical or informational reason to use the full name here, when we do so with no other article on the site (except for Sawyer's article, which, similarly, should be changed to just Sawyer), since we can, and do, easily provide the full name at the top of the article in the text. We should use the name for this article that most people would search for, the name that is easiest to type into a url bar, and the name that will get it the most Google hits: simply and elegantly, Hurley.
As noted above, we aren't Wikipedia. Unlike Wikipedia, we will always have a relatively small pool of articles; Wikipedia uses long titles for many of its articles solely because it has to, to deal with the numerous similarly-named pages. Lostpedia has no such problem in most cases, therefore it is in this encyclopedia's interest to use the simplest, most efficient article names possible, so as to make linking to the page without relying on redirects or piped links as simple, easy, and quick as possible. It's the same reason we should have an article named Alex instead of one named Alexandra Linus: that name has never actually been used in the show, yet it's being favored over a much simpler and more commonly-known name purely to be anal-retentive about article titles. Article titles should be about conveniently finding a page, not about correcting people who don't realize that Hurley's last name is "Reyes" or that Eko's last name is "Tunde" (i.e., the vast majority of the fanbase); that's what the article text is for.
I've also provided some examples of why the style of naming this article would be very silly if applied to other articles at Talk:Main Page. Although I understand why this style was chosen, and it's admirable for its technical accuracy, it really isn't the style of naming that best serves a project like this one, which will end up linking to this page hundreds of thousands of times eventually, and will have a much easier time with that if the page name is both the simplest and the most common name for this character. -Silence 04:27, 17 July 2007 (PDT)
Name Theory[]
Why is Hugo called "Hurley"? My idea: Hugo is huge and has curly hair. HUge and cuRLY. Or maybe it's HUgo and cuRLY. -Other_one 12:08 , 26 December 2007 (CET)
I can't recall which episode, but I recall the reason being alluded to that Hugo once vomited during a party. A lot. So his friends began calling him HURL-ley. ZachsMind 10:50, 24 February 2008 (PST)
What! I don't remember that, what episode was that?--Orhan94 04:30, 10 June 2008 (PDT)
I don't remember hearing that, but it makes a lot of sense. "Hurl" is a slang term for vomiting. (As in, "I drank way too much at the party, and spend half the night hurling in the bathroon.") --CurlyHairedGuy 04:56, 10 June 2008 (PDT)
Interesting theory, but Hurley's nickname has never been explained. Robert K S (talk) 09:34, 10 June 2008 (PDT)
I know the canon rules stated the show and via domus are 2 different entities and articles, but what zachsmind stated never occured in an episode, and plus there is no episode source. it was 'assumed' by the player in the video game when the protagonist talks to hurley. One of the 'question' options that you can ask hurley is 'where did you get that nickname', and hurleys response is cut off, until, something along the lines of him getting sick at a party and 'thats how he got his nickname'. Its a great theory, but never discussed in the show. Maybe it'll be revealed, along with the purpose of that ultra hyped up black smoke monster.
Hurley's nickname is part of the subtext, a series of jokes that constitute an idiosyncratic code, underlying LOST. His name comes from Shakespeare's Macbeth, a name that provides additional clues about his character. "Mac" means "son of" (what is the sound of one jaw dropping?) in Celtic languages and "Beth" means "house of" in Hebrew. Hurley is a son of the house of Reyes which is Spanish for "Kings." --Lana hibner 13:23, February 18, 2010 (UTC)
You should watch Black Dynamite, the scene where they work out the secret of the malt liquour with ludicrous references to mythology would be right up your alley.Beelzebubbles101 05:32, April 11, 2010 (UTC)
Jorge Garcia's theory on Jimmy Kimmel live was that his hair was curly.--Golden Monkey 13:41, February 18, 2010 (UTC)
Hurley and Luck[]
Elsewhere there's been a counting of the number of times Hugo Reyes has said "dude" on the show, but is there some way we can count the number of times the show depicts examples of "luck" occurring to him? Particularly like, times when Hugo could have died but didn't because for example, a canteen was strategically in just the right place. How might we chronicle examples of that and organize them into their own page, or is there a reason why that wouldn't be prudent? I think while John Locke is the "Man of Faith," and Jack Shepherd is the "Man of Science," Hugo Reyes is our resident "Man of Luck." ZachsMind 10:50, 24 February 2008 (PST)
Hurley on Tv in Background[]
I am looking for some help because this has been bugging me. There is an episode where the TV is on in the background and Hurley is on it for whatever reason. At least I thought it was Hurley and I can only suppose it had to do with his winning the lottery. The only reason i ring it up is so that it will stop bugging me. I beleive it was Sun who had the TV on in Korea but I could be way off. If anyone else remembers this I'd appreciate it. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Scrilly (talk • contribs) 2008-03-11T16:14:02).
It is possible that Hurley is named after Patrick J. Hurley, a contemporary logician, which seems to conform with the trend of naming characters after philosophers (Locke, Hume, etc.). This would be, of course, the real-life rationale for his name, rather than the in-show reason that is still unknown. Tsunomaru 08:38, 30 July 2008 (PDT)
Unanswered question[]
I don't think "Why does Hurley regret choosing to stay with Locke?" should be there. He's apologizing to Jack because he went against him. No mystery there.--Citizen 12:20, 26 October 2008 (PDT)
Character based on "Piggy" from Lord of the Flies assertion[]
I find this assertion (in the trivia section of the main article) a bit far-fetched. I don't recall ever having heard the producers of the show make this claim (though please correct me if I've missed it). Just because he's a fat guy on an island doesn't mean he's based on Piggy. Anyone object to deleting that bit of "trivia"? - Gohlkus 05:18, 17 February 2009 (UTC)
Named after character in Iris Murdoch's novel, Under the Net?[]
Could Hugo be a reference to Murdoch's character, Hugo Belfounder, in Under the Net? The physical description fits, as does his tendency to get rich even though he doesn't really try. Both characters are also portrayed as quiet and seemingly not very intelligent, but actually have periods of great insightfulness...--Kalijonah 01:43, 2 April 2009 (UTC)
Hurley's date of birth[]
Where did 1983 come from? It doesn't add up. If that were true, and David left when Hurley was 10, that would put the date of that as 1993. Yet in 2004, in Tricia Tanaka Is Dead, Carmen is seen saying "It's been seventeen years. I have needs" which would put it at 1987.Creatureofhobbit 20:45, 20 July 2009 (UTC)
You're right, it doesn't add up. There is also no way that Hurley is only 21 in 2004! Our site Timeline actually says Hurley is born in 1977 (which adds up, and 27 is more believable than 21) so I have no idea why the infobox states 1983. I will correct it. Not too sure where the 23rd February date came from, can someone fill me in on that?--Baker1000 20:54, 20 July 2009 (UTC)
Um, I was so distracted by the divine humor in episode 4, season 6 that I did not notice whether or not Hurley touched Locke when handing him the note to get him a job. Did Hurley mention choice? --Lana hibner 13:04, February 18, 2010 (UTC)
UQs[]
These really need some attention here..
Was he really cursed? - this question is fairly ambiguous and is surely for the viewer to decide?
Did the bird really say his name? - I think they've said the hurley bird won't be coming back, I don't think it's a real issue.
Why are the colors red and yellow prominent in all of Hurley's flashbacks? - sounds like a leading theory to me. --Integrated (User / Talk) 09:11, 30 July 2009 (UTC)
Born in Florida?[]
Where are we told that Hurley was born in Florida? --Crash815Talk 03:14, 6 August 2009 (UTC)
I wondered that one myself! I can't ever remember it being mentioned at all. And where does this bloody 1983 DOB keep coming from? It doesn't even add up so I'm going to change it back.--Creatureofhobbit 22:11, September 2, 2009 (UTC)
I think the DOB is based off of how old he was when his father left them and how long his dad was gone, but I'm not exactly sure where we find out how old he was when his dad left. --Crash815Talk 00:42, September 3, 2009 (UTC)
He tells Miles in Some Like It Hoth that he was 10 years old, which means 1983 doesn't add up given that Carmen says "It's been 17 years, I have needs" when David returns in 2004 in Tricia Tanaka Is Dead. Carmen's comment puts David's departure at 1987, but if the 1983 DOB was correct, that would have to have happened in 1993.--Creatureofhobbit 20:35, September 4, 2009 (UTC)
The source is this. Now that I look at it closer, I think it's actually 1982, not 1983. This is supported by what looks like "26" in the age field, as the scene was in 2007. --Pyramidhead 21:16, February 1, 2010 (UTC)
Well the props department cocked up then, because it still doesn't add up, for the reasons stated above!--Creatureofhobbit 23:15, February 17, 2010 (UTC)
Locked[]
Hurley's page appeares to be "locked". When I try to edit it, I see this: "This page has been locked to prevent editing". Why is that? Or is it just me? Thanks! --Kriton Tog 12:19, February 24, 2010 (UTC)
Probelm solved! --Kriton Tog 14:41, February 25, 2010 (UTC)
8-Reyes[]
When Hugo is playing connect-four with Lenard at Santa Rosa, Lenard accents the number 8 in the sequence. Which just so happens to be Hugo's candidate number.
Economy?[]
So, something recently hit me. Why was Hugo in the Economy section of the plane? He clearly had enough money to go first class, and on top of that, if he's already spending the money on the ticket, he wouldnt really worry about using more. So just been curious. Fynz 16:07, March 16, 2010 (UTC)
Hurley Sees Dead People[]
Theory: Hurley never actually sees anyone who is dead. They, like his old friend Dave, are all in his mind. Hurley never gets any information from the dead that he couldn't have figured out for himself. It's just his subconscious mind talking to himself, e.g. he saw Anna Lucia when he was worried about getting stopped by the police and trying to think what to do, and "she" provided a way for him to collect his thoughts.
Jacob knew that Hurley has these hallucinations, so appeared to Hurley, knowing that Hurley would believe and accept the visitation. -PolarBearSkull 01:51, March 18, 2010 (UTC)
He's the loveable Plot Device[]
Just look at his actions... Seems to me that whatever hurley does he just sets the plot in a curve. He was the first used as a tool to introduce the numbers, he found the numbers on the hatch, He was the one that found the Van, He talks to the dead. Seems to me that Hurley's development was to make a character that seemed pointless at first but then become a loveable guy but secretly a character only to reveal the most bizarre plot twists and plot build ups Any thoughts? --Metroid101 02:21, March 25, 2010 (UTC)
Drug Dealer[]
When Hugo is mistakenly arrested for being a drug dealer, his accountant later asks him "Why would they [the police] think you were a drug dealer?" This seems to be an easter egg for fans. Jorge Garcia got the role on "Lost" when the writers saw him in an episode of "Curb Your Enthusiasm" where he played a drug dealer that sold pot to Larry David. Big Willie Styles 20:36, March 25, 2010 (UTC)
Character development season 6[]
I'd like to add a mention about Hugo's growing independence & confidence this season. The biggest jump was in Ab Aeterno, accompanying Isabella's ghost into the jungle, at night, possibly without stopping to tell anyone he was tracking Richard (or pick up a torch). He also blows off Jack's insistence to be brought into the loop, which is a direct reversal of how it once was. He also made the decision to go solo to the Lighthouse, which Jacob nixed. It's more than Trivia, it's deeper than narrative for his season 6 activity - I'd like to amend the end of the top article. Any objections? Agreement? Duncan905 23:28, April 5, 2010 (UTC)
Also, Hurley showed how much his personality had developed during the flash-sideways scenes in "The End." The way he talked with charlie, interacted with Sayid, he really seemed like a leader, planner and thinker. Well done hugo!
How much did he know and when did he know it? I think he knew much more than he let on. His tenderness to people was tinged with a sense of do good now, give comfort while this terrible process continues. He had many conversations before the island. He knew what he had to do. As I have said before, the kind of power Hurley has was not meant for humans. All the comedy hid the burden within Hurley.--Past recaptured 04:36, October 5, 2010 (UTC)
Hurley's birthday[]
Hurleys birthday can't be in 1982. When his father left he was 10 years old and he was gone for
about 17 years. So he couldn't been 22 years old in 2004 when the plane crash.
I think it would be in 1977 maybe. I saw a piture above on the prison paper but we have seen that
thoose things hav been wrong many times. Like Sun's passport who was japanese or something.
Sorry for my bad english, I'm form Sweden but talks better then i write. Hehe.
bad luck, good luck[]
Why does Hugo have bad but never gets hurt. It is Because Somebody (God, Faraday) has determined that Hugo is not following the directions. FST was as much for Hugo as it was for Jack. As Hugo led Jack and the losties, he was also leading himself to his destiny. In FST, he was lucky because he was doing what he needed to do. The truest words Jacob ever spoke were to Hugo in that cab:"It is a gift". --Past recaptured 18:53, August 5, 2010 (UTC)
no.1 and no.2[]
There is a reason for the titles. It remains my contention that Ben could have taken MiB anytime. He had within him every power Jacob had. He chose not to kill miB because he finally understood why he was exactly where he was. He was at a fork in the metaphysic world that he had acknowledged since before he was shot. He could have killed MiB and sent everybody back home. Over and over again, he had the chance: destroy the principal by continued blackmail, shot Ilana, kill MiB with the knife Sayid had, or at in the lone battle that might insued after he used Locke to distract Widmore. He did none of those things. There is a reason Faraday never met Ben. there is a reason Desmond wanted Ben to see Locke injured. There is a reason Desmond beat Ben. Ben was not supposed to stop the plan. Jack had to die as did Locke as did the others who proceeded the Great Sacrifice. Hugo finally understood that no one could ever defeat Ben. He was beyond good or evil; he was the man who could have stopped the Plan. The one person he could not defeat was Hugo. Hugo has passed beyond men, angels, demons. He was at one with God.Nirvana. The uber-man cannot defeat the divine. --Past recaptured 19:21, August 5, 2010 (UTC)
Episode Count[]
On the Trivia section of the article, Hurley's episode count is said to be 105, whereas on the vertical bar at the top says it is 107, so...which is right? MikeBlue17 20:47, August 24, 2010 (UTC)
