Talk:Emily Locke
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I think the things she said need to be taken in context between when she was giving her son the con and afterwards.
She "Told Locke he was immaculately conceived" to get him to investigate his father.
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The detective said she "Was admitted several times to The Santa Rosa Mental Institute." but was she? was the detective part of the con too.
All this clever "Con" stuff.. a link to Sawyer or his associates?
Immaculate Conception (how Mary was said to be born without the original sin) is often incorrectly confused with Virgin Birth (which is how it's said that Jesus was born). I wonder if the producers are aware of the distinction? -- Lostpedian 15:21, 6 April 2006 (PDT) I'm sure that the producers were not aware of the distinction before the episode was aired (although someone might have mentioned it to them since then). Most Catholics aren't aware of the distinction.
Character bio replacement test
That is way better. A written description like that is way more human than a list of bullet-points. People are not a sum of bullet-points. Also, it reads much better. This is a good suggestion for the site, man. I'm behind this change 100%. -- Jonathan Fakenham
I don't understand the ambiguity correction... how is it a possibility that she said this to bait Locke when it was actually a statement to bait him? I'm not trying to be an ass, I truly do want to understand your POV when you read it. This is my first real Wiki post on ANY site and I want to understand the context so my future edits/posts will be better.
- My position was, we know she was baiting him, but we don't know if her statements about him being "special" and immaculately concieved were just a part of the bait or not. Hence, the added ambiguity. -- Jonathan Fakenham
- Might be this is just a bit too much second guessing on my hand, seeing as the show has not ended and a lot of threads and questions like this one are still open. We don't know which loose threads are going to be picked up, and which ones are in fact just bait. My reasoning on this particular one though was, with the wierd way all the people on the island have connected pre-island histories somehow, and with the strange nature of all the various mysteries of the island, I don't think immaculate conception would be that much more "far out", really. -- Jonathan Fakenham
By the way, thanks a lot for the compliment. Much appreciated. - DS
Ooh! I gotcha! But isn't Anthony Cooper his biological father? Doesn't that disprove the immaculate conception? And I'd assume that any child is special to their mother, the mere fact she's saying that is only increasing Emily's want for Locke curiousity to seek his father out. - DS
- Yeah, that's true how any mother would say he's special. Telling him Cooper is his biological father doesn't disprove the immaculate conception, though. That could be something that only his mother knew about. Also take into question how late these two people suddenly appeared in Locke's life, there are shadows of conspiracy there, too. Are they who they said they are? No idea if this has any bearing or not, it remains to be seen if this is all a part of Locke's story, or just misdirection. -- Jonathan Fakenham (I need to rewatch the episode, the particulars are getting hazy).
- I did rewatch it before writing this up. Emily does say she's his biological mother, but the detective is the one who tells Locke that Cooper is his biological father. Dunno. It seems to me that the entire goal was Locke's kidney, and it doesn't seem to be part of the grand conspiracy. Unless Cooper was lying about needing it for himself... --DeviantSolution 15:49, 30 May 2006 (PDT)
- Yeah, I get what you're saying. I'm not saying anything about the kidney and the con itself. It's just that these off-hand sayings about him being special and immaculately concieved, when paired with their sudden appearance that late in his life and the whole con thing, something about it just doesn't feel right. -- Jonathan Fakenham
- I did rewatch it before writing this up. Emily does say she's his biological mother, but the detective is the one who tells Locke that Cooper is his biological father. Dunno. It seems to me that the entire goal was Locke's kidney, and it doesn't seem to be part of the grand conspiracy. Unless Cooper was lying about needing it for himself... --DeviantSolution 15:49, 30 May 2006 (PDT)
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Record of Admission
Has anyone noticed the name "Bea Jones" on the admission form?
In Live Together, Die Alone, Mr. Friendly calls Ms. Klugh "Bea" so could there be a connection?
I know the surnames don't match though but it's just such an unusual firstname for two different people to have in the same tv show...? -- Stuartgr 13:21, 30 May 2006 (PDT)
Appearance of area code 323 fixes the date of this form as June 13, 1998 or later, unless this is a prop error. Warrants mention?
Theory deleted?
Why was the theory that she's Shannon's real mother deleted?—The preceding unsigned comment was added by Camper (talk • contribs) .
- Yes because it is pure speculation. For more info please see our theory policy.--CaptainInsano
Last Name
Do we know that Locke is her last name. Wasn't that the last name of the foster parents who adopted Locke? --Mr. Crabby 07:33, 13 January 2007 (PST)
Locke is her last name, it was confirmed by the investigator guy Locke pays to track her down. --Pshyco Smokey Monster 2
missing time and mental illness
When John first meets his father he tells him that he never knew that Emily was having a baby and that she disappeared for some time only to reappear pregnant.
Assuming that this statement wasn't a lie, is it possible that she spent sometime on the island during this period meaning that John could have been conceived and/or spent time in-utero on the island?
Could this therotical time on the island have contributed to emily's menal illness? --Revolting 02:27, 6 March 2008 (PST)
Anything is possible, the question you seem to be raising is, is it probable? I'd say no, its just pure speculative thinking on your behalf with absolutely no evidence to suggest it, especially considering that they both lived after child birth! Plkrtn talk contribs email 03:21, 6 March 2008 (PST)
Buddy Holly and Emily's age
I entered a comment last night here that didn't post, but the gist of it appears in "Trivia" under someone else's name - I don't know how. In any case, what I said was that if she was born in October 1940 and gave birth at 15 as the article said, then there was a problem because "Everyday" wasn't released as a single until early July 1957, according to Wikipedia. However - the credits say she was age 16 which works if she gave birth between July and October, so I'm removing the trivia item and correcting the page for her age. PaulLev 10:42, 10 May 2008 (PDT)
- There's also a question of whether it is likely that she even had a copy of that record - the song wasn't culturally significant until it was included on Buddy Holly's 2nd album, released in 1958, so the Wikipedia information about the single may or may not be correct, but at least her age is now consistent with it. PaulLev 10:47, 10 May 2008 (PDT)
