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The article states that Faraday has "romantic feelings" for Charlotte. I think this should be replaced with "feelings". He has only expressed concern and said that he "loves her", not that he's "in love" with her.--Briggsy4 05:17, 29 January 2009 (UTC)

  • I think it should read " and is very protective of charlotte." that is plenty without getting into unproven theories.Noting that he loves her is too misleading when it could be family love or just a ploy to let Richard trust him.123go 06:27, 29 January 2009 (UTC)123go
    • His exact words are "I am in love with the woman sitting next to me". I don't think he could MAKE this ANY clearer. Integrated (User / Talk) 12:33, 29 January 2009 (UTC)
  • All the artical says are Daniel's words, and what it looked like to Jin at the Staff. Nothing theoretical about it.--Domerin 00:01, 1 February 2009 (UTC)
  • With the events up to Jughead, we only hear Daniel Faraday say that he “is in love with” Charlotte, stated under pressure to convince Richard Alpert he won’t detonate the H-bomb, and hurt her. Further, Daniel and Charlotte haven’t kissed. Then Ellie wonders why Daniel stares at her, and she remarks that isn’t very becoming after professing his love for Charlotte (BTW: how did she know this) to which Daniel admits that he’s not romantic… Then there are the “I won’t let you get hurt” and “I’ll take care of you” lines Daniel says to her. Daniel’s concern for Charlotte seems more and more like that of a father, especially when she collapses and he runs to her “in obvious distress and fear” more as a dad protecting his child, and less of a devastated lover. --Talkster 05:59, 2 February 2009 (UTC)

Does Daniel Age?

Has anyone else noticed that Daniel looks the same age no matter what year we see him?Messeis 15:19, 6 February 2009 (UTC)

Yes but every year we have seen him he is most likely traveling through time. None of the others change either as they move through time.crabab11 20:29, 13 February 2009 (UTC)

Faraday "doesn't seem surprised"?

It says in this article that Faraday "doesn't seem surprised" to see that the times on the two clocks in his experiment were different. This seems completely wrong to me - Faraday completely freaks out, muttering, "This isn't good, this isn't good." He seemed noticeably upset the entire time to me. I'm gonna go ahead and change this, but I'd be interested to hear what everyone else has to say about his reaction. Makemeabeliever 18:12, 17 February 2008 (PST)

No, he was not surprised to see it had a time difference, in fact he was expecting it. However, the freaking out part was probably associated to how much time difference it had shown... perhaps too much that made him freak out.     Nusentinsaino     talk    contribs    email  
How do you KNOW he was expecting it? I really don't see any proof for that. Makemeabeliever 19:30, 17 February 2008 (PST)
The payload had a stopwatch/clock in it... how else can he not expect this?     Nusentinsaino     talk    contribs    email  
Exactly; he wouldn't be testing for something he didn't expect to be anomalous. If he was just blindly testing for weird stuff, it should have had a variety of sensors. Since it only was measuring time, then obviously that was what he was investigating. I also read his reaction as being surprised at the difference, not that there was one. This could be from either the difference being bigger than he expected or calculated, or maybe the difference had grown since a previous test or from previous anecdotal evidence.Kevrock 12:07, 20 February 2008 (PST)

Faraday needs to be eventually added to the philsophy article

Eventually Michael Faraday and maybe James Maxwell should be added to the philosophy article. Its obviously too soon, but I'm putting this note up in case I forget.

The philosophical questions involving faraday have to do with Ultra-Newtonianism picturing a predictable, clockwork universe that could be described by equations, provided we knew all the variables thus denying free will. The philsophical issues surrounding both Maxwell and Faraday fit nicely into the overall theme of the Valanzetti Equation. Dharmatel4 23:34, 19 January 2008 (PST)

  • I think it's no coincidence we're getting names like Maxwell, Minkowski and Faraday. They're definitely not philosophers, they're scientists. I think that distinction is what's important, so I think there should be "Scientists" page analogous to the "Philosophers" one. Aiusepsi 21:11, 2 February 2008 (PST)
    • In Newton's age, there was no distinction. A scientist was a "natural philosopher". It was only later that philosophy divided into the physical scientific philosophies, and the nonphysical/metaphysical unscientific philosophies. Scientists abandoned the name "philosopher" like chemists abandoned parallels to alchemy and astronomers abandoned connections to astrology, to avoid the kook factor.Mlorrey 03:24, May 15, 2010 (UTC)

Recognition

Is there any mundane reason why Faraday would think that the man walking toward him in the jungle was Jack? He'd (presumably) never seen Jack's face, and neither would have Minkowski. Jack told Minkowski over the phone that there were a large number of survivors to be rescued. This seems like a tell, indicating that perhaps the freighter people are more insidious than Jack would like to believe. The only way it could be explained is if Jack had the phone in his hand at the time. Does anyone remember?TheBookPolice 08:51, 1 February 2008 (PST)

  • That could be why he asked "Are you Jack?" ShadowUltra 13:33, 1 February 2008 (PST)
  • But as an alternative to "Who are you"?--Chocky 21:16, 1 February 2008 (PST)
  • No, I don't believe he had it in his hand, because later Faraday says "If I had a phone, I could call the ship..." and Jack says: "We have one." Anyway, there are two reasons why he would say "Are you Jack?" (1) Because he was the one that phoned, so if you landed on the island and saw a guy, you might assume it was the guy you talked to on the phone. (2) Because it makes a great cliffhanger/sound byte for commercials. --Litany42 06:02, 8 February 2008 (PST)

Sam?

Does that woman really call him Sam at the beginning of the episode? It sounds like it but I'm not completely sure. Anyone check the closed captioning? --Minderbinder 09:26, 8 February 2008 (PST)

  • I watched the show with the closed captioning, and I have to say I do not recall seeing the name Sam at all.     Nusentinsaino     talk    contribs    email  
  • I heard Sam too, but i'm pretty sure that she said Dan. We all had Sam on the brain, and the line was "do you want eggs Dan?" which is really easy to mix up.--Ex-Pope Cardinal Richard Corey 09:43, 8 February 2008 (PST)
  • The first time I watched it it sounded like "Sam." However, I rewatched the scene for this purpose and can confirm that it's definitely "Dan." You can hear it clearly when she first approaches his chair from behind (about the third for fourth time she says his name). Because his name is Dan and most of us are sure she says it and there is no reason to assume it was "Sam," then we must not question it. Remember "neither/either"! -- macosx 11:42, 8 February 2008 (PST)
  • I heard Stan.
    • The Transcript does not mention the name at all. You guys must be hallucinating. --     Nusentinsaino     talk    contribs    email   11:56, 20 February 2008 (PST)
      • I'm not sure what you mean. The transcript says Dan (repeatedly): WOMAN 1: How do you want your eggs, Dan? So what happened, they find that missing plane? Dan? Dan? Dan, why are you so upset? --Minderbinder 12:07, 20 February 2008 (PST)

25?

  • "Daniel was the twenty-fifth character to ever have a flashback." -> Who cares? - TheAma1 13:25, 9 February 2008 (PST)

Someone who keeps track of stuff like this. Roger 15:50, 9 February 2008 (PST)

It's trivia, just a fun fact, it doesn't have to have purpose really. --meggie ~ Talk & contribs 17:00, 5 May 2008 (PDT)

Question answered!?

In the question section you have "Who is the woman in the room he watches TV in?" but as Family Members you already have her as his Wife. It's not exactly clear if this is his wife or not, can even be his sister on a visit. Roger 15:50, 9 February 2008 (PST)

As far as I can tell there's nothing that indicates that she's his wife in the episode. Unless she's credited somewhere as his wife, this should be changed. Personally, I'd think that a wife would behave differently if her husband was in tears over something like that. DrummerGirl 08:10, 10 Feb 2008 (GMT)

If he has a wife he doesn't appear to ever be wearing a wedding ring and of course he isn't Seth Norris, so technically speaking, he could be married but doesn't wear his ring all the time. --Lonedog80 11:39, 12 February 2008 (PST)

The captions just explained it's his caretaker NOT wife. As in, they are showing an "enhanced" version of "Confirmed Dead" before "The Economist" airs. The factoids at the bottom cleared it up. -- macosx 17:03, 14 February 2008 (PST)

The cards

What's up with Daniel not being able to remember three cards? Is he autistic or something? Evil-pineapples 19:32, 21 February 2008 (PST)

  • Or was it ESP? Maybe Daniel wasn't REMEMBERING the cards -- he was trying to see what they were through TELEPATHY! Evil-pineapples 19:44, 21 February 2008 (PST)
  • due to the rough flight, perhaps he suffered a concussion. this is, after all, one of the symptoms. Mia 21:38, 21 February 2008 (PST)
    • It's more likely to be a memory test (Charlotte did say "remember"). There is obviously something slightly wrong with Daniel, beyond eccentricity, and a problem affecting his short-term memory would explain why he had a caregiver in the flashback (which would preclude a journey-related injury). -- LOSTonthisdarnisland 11:44, 22 February 2008 (PST)
      • A far shoot, but... If it's really a memory test, it could be a test alike those conducted in Vik Institute. The test and Naomi refering to him as a "head case" could indicate that he is/was a patient of Hanso Foundation's Mental Health Appeal. Maybe a savant intern of Vik Institute, or any other if Valenzetti-related experiments were/are being conducted in other facilities as well. This could be a clue to Faraday being on the team (to conduct Valenzetti-related experiences during his visit to the Island), and to a link between the freighter team and either the Hanso Foundation or Thomas Mittelwerk. If it's true, the link probably is Charles Widmore, as it's stated by Ben in "The Other Woman" that the former is the freighter expedition's sponsor. Andresacram 02:56, 29 February 2008 (PST)
        • We're around 2004 Christmas in Lost time. Was Thomas Mittelwerk still ahead the Hanso Foundation during that time? If he was, then there might be a chance that a) either Charles Widmore is looking for the Island for his contractors in Hanso; or b) the Widmore Corporation accepted Hanso's offer to give Widmore a chance to look for the Island, for his own reasons, unknown until to the moment (I think this is more probable, as Ben stated Widmore has been looking for the Island for a long time, and it's more or less confirmed in "The Constant" when he spends a small fortune to retrieve Magnum Hanso's journal and leaves the auction immediatly later). And it would be very ironic that Desmond got stumbled in the same island he spent years looking for...Andresacram 15:40, 8 March 2008 (PST)
  • I think we have the answer. Perhaps Daniel is experiencing a similar, less-powerful version of what Desmond and Minkowski went through. -- Sam McPherson  T  C  E  19:26, 28 February 2008 (PST)
    • I agree. Daniel may have experienced the same thing as what happened to Desmond and Minkowski. He was subjected to radiation during his time at the University when he did those experiments. Who knows whether he experimented anything before going to the Island. This may answer why he was crying; his mind travelled back to that time. Since he found Desmond and according to his diary, "If anything goes wrong, Desmond Hume is my Constant", the effect is less. -Chatake 22:36, 28 February 2008 (PST)
      • Interesting, but I tend to disagree, especially because if Faraday's consciousness was transported back to the time of 815 being on TV, how would he find Desmond, his constant? At that point, Desmond's on...THE ISLAND.
    • My take was that it had to do with the radiation his head was exposed to - you know, when Desmond asks him "what about your head?" when he turns on the radiation, Faraday says, "yeah..." - lol

This seems to be an old thread, but...I'm wondering why Charlotte couldn't use Faraday as her constant? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by JEMJEM (talkcontribs) 2009-02-26T17:53:14.

  • I don't think that Charlotte knew Dan very well (if at all) before the Kahana and their return to the island (your constant must exist in both times). The only time flash of hers that Dan DID exist in was the last one (when she says, "I'm not allowed to eat chocolate before dinner"). But by then, it was too late.--Mrmagic522 19:39, 5 May 2009 (UTC)

Memory Loss

Daniel may suffer from antegrade amnesia (trouble forming new memories). This would explain not understanding why he was crying and the frustration over the card task.

  • transcranial magnetic stimulation (TMS) is a new therapy being tested in a number of neurology studies to stimulate parts of the brain that are functioning below normal, expected levels.
From an article in the Times last Spring:
Experiments on mice have suggested that coils generating magnetic fields can strengthen brain circuits in ways that enhance learning and the animals’ ability to remember.
  • This may be our yet unknown reason for why Daniel was desperate to get on the island. The Electromagnetic potential of the island may be the boost he needs to get though this absent minded professor phase. This would also explain the expectation of progress at the card task.
  • This could potentially explain why he might have a caregiver rather than a spouse in Confirmed Dead.
  • He won't know the hatch has blown up / that the magnetic field is 'gone', hence why he is disappointed by the lack of improvement.
    • If Rose is better because of a different property of the island, then Daniel may make further "progress".

Caveats

For the sake of the story this may only apply at the short-term memory level which would allow him to get names and mission objectives but forget the eggs are on the stove. Tigerlilylynn 07:18, 22 February 2008 (PST)

Real life radiation memory loss link

This real-life paper (one of several on this theme, in fact) links radiation exposure to brain aging, and decline in memory:

EXPOSURE TO RADIATION ACCELERATES NORMAL BRAIN AGING AND PRODUCES DEFICITS IN SPATIAL LEARNING AND MEMORY B. Shukitt-Hale (1), G. Casadesus (2), A. Carey (1), BM. Rabin (3), JA. Joseph (1) [Abstract:] Previous studies have shown that radiation exposure, particularly to particles of high energy and charge (HZE particles), produces deficits in spatial learning and memory. These adverse behavioral effects are similar to those seen in aged animals. It is possible that these shared effects may be produced by the same mechanism; oxidative stress damage to the central nervous system caused by an increased release of reactive oxygen species is likely responsible for the deficits seen in aging and following irradiation. Both aged and irradiated rats display cognitive impairment in tests of spatial learning and memory such as the Morris water maze and the radial arm maze. These rats have decrements in the ability to build spatial representations of the environment and they utilize non-spatial strategies to solve tasks. Furthermore, they show a lack of spatial preference, due to a decline in the ability to process or retain place (position of a goal with reference to a "map" provided by the configuration of numerous cues in the environment) information. These declines in spatial memory occur in measures dependent on both reference and working memory, and in the flexibility to reset mental images. These results show that irradiation with high-energy particles produces age-like decrements in cognitive behavior that may impair the ability of astronauts to perform critical tasks during long-term space travel beyond the magnetosphere. [www.cosis.net/abstracts/COSPAR04/02339/COSPAR04-A-02339.pdf]
We saw in this episode that Daniel does not wear head protection during the experiments, and by his own admission, does that "20 times a day". Further, he wears the vest citing "prolonged exposure" to the radiation. Therefore, his memory problems (not ESP, as some have suggested) are most likely linked to a condition as this paper describes, similar to an older person's brain where they remember things in the past with clarity, most everyday routines by rote, some things in the present, but have difficulty with things that are outside the norm, and making new memories 'stick'. It explains his need for a caretaker. It explains the card testing. It explains why he was crying, but couldn't remember why he was crying. -- LOSTonthisdarnisland 03:46, 1 March 2008 (PST)

An Anagram

Daniel Faraday = Add a final year ESachs 18:34, 4 March 2008 (PST)

Not bad ESach! I never even realized it! Wonder if it's realtes to his "time-travel experiments"? CharlotteStaplesLewis 16:37, 14 December 2008 (PST)

Why did Naomi refer to him as a "head case?" - pretty clear one

well, the "question" Why did Naomi refer to him as a "head case?" has pretty clean answer - he seems to forget very quickly - he simply has serious memory problems --Running 12:00, 7 March 2008 (PST)

The Tie

So Daniel has been on the island for several days -- why doesn't he lose the tie already? Isn't it sort of quirky that he is still wearing that tie? I would think it could also be dangerous running through the jungle -- Could get it caught on a branch. (Or worse yet, Smokey gets it!) --Chuck 06:29, 14 March 2008 (PDT)

It gives him an eccentric and nice look, I think. :)
User:Calick, June 20 2008

== DocH says: Odd how the trivia section says DF always has his tie on -on the island... yet the picture of him in the Tempest (ON THE ISLAND) shows DF with no tie. --DocH 14:18, 13 July 2008 (PDT)

Status ?

  • Daniel is currently listed as Unknown, but I'm not sure I understand why. It's a totally different case from Claire or Jin whose fates are left ambiguous as best. When we last saw him, he was on the zodiac, in a healty state. Whether or not he moved with the island is not the question, he's still alive, even if he's nowhere near it, after all. Am I missing something here ? --LeoChris 22:46, 19 July 2008 (PDT)


Yes. You're missing the point that we don't know what his status is. We don't know anything about his current whereabouts or status. Daniel could very well be dead, or stuck in the future, or absolutely ANYTHING else, so his current status of "Unknown" seems apt. --Halcohol 23:58, 14 September 2008 (PDT)

We can delete this whole section now, right? We know for certain that Daniel is alive and on-island. Of course, we're never really sure 'when' he is, but he's alive --Andrew1990M 21:47, 24 January 2009 (UTC)

I think it's policy never to delete anything from talk pages, for archives sake Integrated (User / Talk) 05:57, 25 January 2009 (UTC)

  • Its obvious he's alive, as in Some like it hoth, he arrived back in the submarine. The status should be changed back to alive on island. I will also remove the unanswered question regarding his whereabouts.-- Nzoomed  talk  contributions  22:34, 19 April 2009 (UTC)

Met main characters

From the article:

"Daniel has met every main character, except for Boone, Shannon, Walt, Ana Lucia, Libby, Mr. Eko, Charlie, Hurley, Locke, Claire, Ben, and Sawyer"

That's an awful lot of exceptions. What does it add to the article? Is there any significance to it? Or is it just supposed to be totally random trivia, as in "Faraday's tie is the same color as a rock in episode 24 of Star Trek"?--Nevermore 17:30, 13 September 20her08 (PDT)

This trivia piece is on every Main Cast page, although I agree it should read: "Daniel has not yet met Boone, Shannon, Walt, Ana Lucia, Libby, Mr. Eko, Charlie, Hurley, Locke, Claire or Ben" --Andrew1990M 21:49, 24 January 2009 (UTC)

As of the end of "Jughead", Faraday has encountered Locke. Robert K S (talk) 08:15, 30 January 2009 (UTC)

Naming convention

On the show he has been called by many name such as Daniel, Dan, Faraday, so i'm wondering which one to use? The current name is "Daniel" though it would be less confusing if Faraday was used instead.--Edible8 10:12, 24 October 2008 (PDT)

New Photo

Should his main photo be changed to this one?

http://www.imagebam.com/image/4def1520019735

  • Nah Integrated (User / Talk) 02:50, 24 January 2009 (UTC)

who spoiled this?

Am I missing something? Where and when was the info that Daniel and those on the raft return to the island released? If it hasn't then this a spoiler.--Mistertrouble189 20:08, 31 December 2008 (UTC)

ORDER ?? ?

  • At the moment Daniel's time travelling antic back in the DHARMA days are put AFTER his time at Oxford but BEFORE he went on the freighter. This is very poor logic indeed. The point where he meets Chang needs to be EITHER at the END (The last thing to happen in his PERSONAL TIMELINE) or at the START (The first thing to happen from an outside perspective timeline). Integrated (User / Talk) 05:09, 24 January 2009 (UTC)
    1. From just looking at the pages around here, the organization indicated to me that each dissection of character history (On-island, Off-island, etc) were separate from each other, and that events within each dissection were to be arranged chronologically from an outside perspective. Thusly, I put the put the 1970's Faraday info at the top of the section. --SacValleyDweller 08:11, 30 January 2009 (UTC)
    2. I was actually under the impression that Faraday may have been to the Island before he was recruited by Widmore. Thusly, I had made it open ended. --SacValleyDweller 08:11, 30 January 2009 (UTC)
  • I think he's way too old in that flash for it to be anything other than him traveling back in time - it's most likely a flash forward from his perspective. But it doesn't matter, we'll know soon enough and can change it as needed then. --Jackdavinci 09:43, 30 January 2009 (UTC)

Earlier appearance?

Was watching the DVDs of Season 3. I could have sworn that I saw Daniel Faraday during Colleen's funeral in Episode 5. He's in the background when the camera is on Jack and Juliet. He looks like one of the others at that point. It's possible they used him as an extra back then, and it's also possible I'm entirely mistaken. Can anyone verify? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by SuperRob (talkcontribs) 2009-02-26T18:34:59.

Meeting Ben?

It's assumed he met Michael because they were both on the freighter. By that logic, can we also note that he may have met Ben because of their time in DHARMA?--Tim Thomason 02:48, 20 March 2009 (UTC)

Season 5 Promo Picture: Missing feet - Faraday and Miles

Why in the Season 5 Promo Picture, (were we could see all the regular staff of the season), Daniel Faraday hasn´t a toe? (the left toe). In this same picture we could see Miles without a toe, too. (the right toe, in this case). Here i copy a link where you could see the picture in a great size http://www.lost5temporada.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/12/081203064013296352.jpg --Fuzter lost 05:53, 24 March 2009 (UTC)

Skeptical, I tried to find every copy of that image that I could. It seems that in every one Daniel is missing his left foot. That is bizarre. It seems to me, however, that Miles is bipedal.
<hiero>O34:O4-G17-D58-A1</hiero> zholmboe 08:43, 24 March 2009 (UTC)
Image:Season5promo-wide.jpg. Foot. -- Sam McPherson  T  C  E  17:57, 25 April 2009 (UTC)
Lost-season-5-poster
That's not the specified pic. See the thumbnail here. It's Faraday's left foot.
<hiero>O34:O4-G17-D58-A1</hiero> zholmboe 18:33, 26 April 2009 (UTC)

Time spent off-Island

In "Because You Left" he is still at The Orchid and baby Miles is already present. In "Some Like It Hoth" baby Miles is 3 months old and Faraday comes back. That means he only was off-Island for 3 month or less. Adding that to the article. MauserContact 12:41, 16 April 2009 (UTC)

Couldn't the opening scene of "Because You Left" have happened after Daniel returned on the sub in "Some Like It Hoth"? So he could have been off the Island anywhere up to 3 years, yeah? Unless I'm forgetting something.. Kaisle 17:40, 17 April 2009 (UTC)

Unauthorized experiments

Were Faraday's experiments really unauthorized? The janitor in ("Jughead") seems to express disbelief, and Daniel has been removed from the registry, but is there really indications that Daniel did the experiments off the record all along? Frogurt 17:19, 25 April 2009 (UTC)

I think this remark by the custodian ("Jughead") is enough to conclude that Daniel's experiments weren't exactly conducted with open institutional approval: "Because I'm the one who had to take the rats that he made run through this bloody thing down to the incinerator so that no one would find out what he was up to." Certainly, his human testing on himself and his girlfriend would have been unauthorized, since there are strict regulations concerning conducting human testing.  Robert K S   tell me  17:47, 25 April 2009 (UTC)
As Daniel himself said in "The Constant", "This is where I do the things Oxford frowns upon." -- Sam McPherson  T  C  E  17:54, 25 April 2009 (UTC)
Daniel never actually said that he was on the faculty. There was a lot of room for us to believe that was true. He told Desmond to find him at Queens College. Someone like Charles Widmore could make a huge grant to Oxford in exchange for a room in an attic.--Jim in Georgia Contribs Talk 13:43, 1 May 2009 (UTC)

Unknown, not dead

The canon comic con video probably features him, and it's set after The Variable. Hence, his status should be unknown, not dead. --Golden Monkey 03:20, 30 April 2009 (UTC)

  • Pictogram voting support Absolutely. Faraday's voice is heard on the comic con video sometime after he tells Pierre that he's from the future. It hasn't happened yet, so we know Faraday isn't dead. OR if he is dead, he'll be back. Temple, anyone? Marc604 06:13, 30 April 2009 (UTC)
  • Pictogram voting support I think his current status should be "unknown" until his death is certainly confirmed. Paintbox 10:59, 30 April 2009 (UTC)
  • Pictogram voting support Definitely - I'm going to remove references to him being dead from the article. When we last see him he is alive with his eyes open. --Integrated (User / Talk) 15:07, 30 April 2009 (UTC)
  • Pictogram voting comment Not that I disagree, but you can die with your eyes open. By the way here is a direct quote from the recent Darlton interview: "I think some people believe that they hear Faraday's voice in the Comic-Con experience. These events are sort of partially canon but more promotional than they are canon. Giving the audience a sneak peak as to what the season is about." --LOST-The Cartographer 15:49, 30 April 2009 (UTC)
  • Pictogram voting oppose To quote the interview Damon and Carlton just gave on this very website, ". I think some people believe that they hear Faraday's voice in the Comic-Con experience. These events are sort of partially canon but more promotional than they are canon." Its pretty clear that Daniel is dead, and the last shot of the episode indicated him taking his final breath.. Yeah it sucks that he died but the fact remains that he did, and the comic con video probably is not canon. InflatableBombshelter 17:31, 30 April 2009 (UTC)
  • Pictogram voting support - Daniel's status is unknown until at least next week, though I suspect he's dead Jim.    Jabberwock    talk    contribs    email   - 17:50, 30 April 2009 (UTC)
  • Pictogram voting support Are the LOST Untangled recaps considered canon? They are made by ABC, I think, and the one for The Variable says he died. Although I'd like to hope that his status is unknown... Just checked the Untangled page here on Lostpedia, it says that it is unknown if they are canon and created by ABC Fred Lab. That gives me hope. I vote for status: unknown until we have proof. Kaisle 18:02, 30 April 2009 (UTC)
  • Pictogram voting support We need someone at the scene reacting like he's dead to confirm it. He could be dead or dying, but it's premature to assume it. You never know -- Richard might have some hypothermic compound in his pocket. --Butseriouslyfolks 18:22, 30 April 2009 (UTC)
  • Pictogram voting oppose Daniel is dead. We watched his unblinking face at the end of the episode for a good 5-10 seconds. The producers obviously wanted to hammer it in that he is dead, so until/if he is shown to be alive, he should be listed as dead on the wiki. -- Sam McPherson  T  C  E  18:24, 30 April 2009 (UTC)
  • Pictogram voting oppose Per Sam McPherson. Unlike Caesar, who was shot too, but not shown after that, we saw a close-up of Daniel. It was obviously the producers' intention, which is supposed to show us that he is dead. QuiGonJinnBe mindful of the Living Force... 18:30, 30 April 2009 (UTC)
  • Pictogram voting support Although I think he is probably dead (RIP) there was not enough in this episode to confirm it. Countless times have we seen a character shot or similar and they have either died later or not died at all. We never assumed young Ben was dead, Libby was shot twice but was still alive until the next episode, Jin was blown up but he survived (after we all assumed he was dead). It should be unknown until we get solid confirmation.--Baker1000 18:40, 30 April 2009 (UTC)
Pictogram voting comment Didn't we watch his eyes glaze over? -- Sam McPherson  T  C  E  01:30, 1 May 2009 (UTC)

Daniel is dead

Damon and Carlton confirm Daniel is dead. ShadowUltra 18:52, 30 April 2009 (UTC)

  • In the TV Guide interview quoted on TV Guide's web page and at Dark UFO, D & C:
    • Say that Jeremy Davies is history.
    • Praise his work, particularly in "The Variable."
    • Do not say that Faraday died in "The Variable."
      • “It was an incredibly painful thing to kill this beloved character," Cuse adds, "but we feel that’s what this show has to do. His death is kind of the culminating event in the entire season." ShadowUltra 03:02, 1 May 2009 (UTC)
  • Carlton Cuse said Davies "was personally saddened that his full-time (emphasis added) status on Lost was coming to an end."
  • It may be a little early to call Hoffs/Drawler
--Jim in Georgia Contribs Talk 01:14, 1 May 2009 (UTC)
I can't see how that could be construed in any other way but that he died in "The Variable." -- Sam McPherson  T  C  E  01:25, 1 May 2009 (UTC)
  • It kills me to say this cuz he was great but hes dead, if you watch the end his eyes stiffen out like ekos, charlottes, boones all did when they died, i wish he didnt die but hes 100% dead. --Czygan84 03:22, 1 May 2009 (UTC)
  • THE POINT IS...it has not been CONFIRMED in the show whether he is dead! Until we get a confirmation, it should not be CANON! Perhaps he dies in the next episode and saves the Island/detonates the H-bomb in his final moments. Just because Davies is no longer on the cast doesn't mean that his character died in THE VARIABLE! Keep in mind that they had already completed the season when Cuse made the statement. He could be refering to a later episode. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Mrmagic522 (talkcontribs) 2009-05-01T10:25:25.
    • Guys are you serious? The interview was posted on April 30, one day after The Variable aired. It talks about a "surprising death". And the only death in the Variable was that of Dan. Just face it, Faraday is dead. D-E-A-D. QuiGonJinnBe mindful of the Living Force... 09:54, 2 May 2009 (UTC)
      • Yeah, I really can't see them telling us he is dead, before he actually dies. That would be a bit of a spoiler, don't you think? Sadly, he is dead. They killed Charlotte, so it seems like the freighter crew are being picked off one by one. Miles should watch his back!--Baker1000 13:59, 2 May 2009 (UTC)
        • In todays's LOST Official Audio Podcast they confirmed that Faraday is infact dead. I found this sad because I loved Faraday as a character on the show. Marko14126 22:54, 4 May 2009 (UTC)

His Accent

I don't understand why a lot of people cares about his American accent. Born to British parents, and raised in England, so he had to have British accent. Daniel Faraday already had British accent, but Jeremy Davies not. It's all that simple. Questioning even his brown eyes rather than his accent sounds more sense, since his parents have blue eyes. --Paintbox 17:20, 02 May 2009 (UTC)

  • He DIDN'T have a 'British accent' and he should have done. It's all that simple. I can assure you that Daniel Faraday spoke in a thoroughly American accent. It is possible for two parents with blue eyes to have a child with brown eyes, just uncommon, so I have no issue with that. The accent thing, in my opinion, is a big issue, as is the name. I wouldn't mind if they offered ANY explanation, however implausible. But no, they just ignored it. As it is, I can't buy the whole 'Faraday's parents' storyline at all. He doesn't look remotely like either of them, he's American, and his name's Faraday. They clearly made it up after they'd cast Davies and just decided to ignore all the glaring issues it created. Chester Kilburn Talk | Contributions 12:09, 5 May 2009 (UTC)
    • I'm not a native English speaker, so i'm unsure about how difficult to speak in an other accent. I think the actor Jeremy Davies who portrayed Daniel Faraday simply couldn't be able to speak in a British accent. You're right, Daniel Faraday should have been speaking in a British accent, but anyway instead of a fake and inaccurate accent, the actor's original accent was much more preferable. It'd be an interesting discussion topic if it was Jeremy Davies' failure not to be able to speak in a British accent. --Paintbox 22:34, 05 May 2009 (UTC)
      • I'm a little more confused as to how in the world Dan was teaching at Oxford at 18, if the timeline is correct. --Gibbeynator 15:42, 7 May 2009 (UTC)

One's accent has less to do with one's parents or where one lives than the peers of one's own age that one associates with around the age of 7. Daniel's accent might be accounted for in ways not shown on-screen; much more perplexing is the older young Charlotte's accent, as she has not been shown to have Britons as peers in what appears to be a fairly exclusively American DHARMA Initiative.  Robert K S   tell me  22:57, 5 May 2009 (UTC)


His Last Name

Is it possible, as of ("Follow the Leader"), that Ellie may now know Daniel's full name to be Daniel Faraday? In now knowing this (perhaps having been told outside of the time we see her on screen), and knowing that he is her son, would she then - granting she'll have full knowledge of time travel and Daniel's purpose by the time of his birth - give him the name Daniel Faraday? This could then ramify the continuity error between Ellie and Widmore's last names being different from Daniel's. --Atomic Mystro 17:28, 7 May 2009 (UTC)

  • The computers at Oxford didn't have anyone listed under the name Faraday, it could just be a fake name. --Gibbeynator 17:42, 7 May 2009 (UTC)
    • It's also possible that, after what Daniel did to Theresa, Oxford would want to eliminate him from the system to avoid tarnishing the Oxford name with Daniel's mistake. --Atomic Mystro 19:01, 7 May 2009 (UTC)

How old is Faraday?

When was Daniel born? Was he already alive when Eloise killed his adult self in 1977? If not, this poses quite a few problems: Assuming Daniel was born in 1977, he needs to graduate from Oxford, gain an academic title, start teaching at Oxford and conduct experiments at the age of 19, because in "The Constant", Desmond meets him in 1996. I know he said he was the youngest graduate ever, but... "Professor with 19" is a little tough. And then we have to take into consideration that Charlotte was born in 1970, so 27-year-old Faraday falls in love with 34-year-old Charlotte on the Kahana. Sounds a little poorly thought-out to me.--Nevermore 11:22, 11 May 2009 (UTC)

Already discussed on Talk:Follow the Leader (I think)... he was born in 1977 or 1978, given that Eloise is pregnant with him at the tome of Template:Ep:5x15...  Robert K S   tell me  19:52, 11 May 2009 (UTC)
  • Yeah, given that Sawyer said it is July 1977 and Eloise's pregnancy doesn't even show yet, most likely January-March 1978, I think...which would make him about 30 when he died? (early 1978- early 2005; 1974-1977) -Kaisle 16:01, 14 May 2009 (UTC)
  • Look at the argument I made in the below section. --Crash815 Talk 03:26, 29 May 2009 (UTC)

1978?

I don't think the page should list a year Daniel was born. We have no way of knowing if he's the one Ellie was pregnant with in 1978. It might have been another child. Also, the casting call for Daniel's character called for someone in his late 30's, leading one to believe TPTB were planning on his character being that old. So I think the year of his birth should be listed as unknown until we actually have something in the way of evidence. Lindsaynickel 00:10, 15 May 2009 (UTC)


Agree - I also heard something based on the use of actors/actresses in "The Variable" that went something like this (note that in this timeline, I'll be assuming Eloise is pregnant with Daniel in 1977):

1978: Daniel is born. Eloise would be 41-years-old and played by Alice Evans.
1988: Scene from "The Variable". Daniel is 10-years-old and it played by Spencer Allyn. Eloise is 51-years-old and played by Alice Evans.
1994: Daniel graduates from Oxford, as seen in "The Variable". Daniel is 16-years-old and is played by Jeremy Davies. Eloise is 57-years-old and is played by Fionnula Flanagan.

Now, we I even need to explain what this means, as far as Daniel's birth? --Crash815 Talk 03:24, 29 May 2009 (UTC)

I know this sound weard but what if Daniel is alive. Because Desmond is his constant. Why would he not need the help from Desmond when he was walking to The Others? Any idea? --Station7 18:00, 2 July 2009 (UTC)

Daniel is the only Kahana-member who has so far a flash-forward, also it's a briefly flash-forward. Am I right?--Station7 20:36, September 3, 2009 (UTC)

  • You're referring to the opening scene of "Because You Left" right? Most people are ruling that as a Pierre Chang flashback, actually. --Crash815 Talk 21:51, September 3, 2009 (UTC)

You're right. It begins with Pierre Changs flashback, then his going to the Orchid, he's walking to the dead man(Alvarez), walks back, his flashback is over, his bumped in to Faraday, Faraday walks to the location where Chang was, sees Alvarez and then said Tony about time travelers that it's crazy or something. I think a Pierre Chang flashback and then we get a Faraday brief flash-forward. Is that a good idea.--Station7 06:33, September 4, 2009 (UTC)

No, it begins with a Daniel flashforward. All of it. How the hell can a character who isn't even present in the rest of the episode have a damn flashback? I don't care if most people regard it as such, that is not possible and it has to be classed as a Daniel flashforward. Personally, I also regard it as Daniel centric; given that we only know the centricity of The Lie-The Little Prince through the opening flashes I find it utterly silly that we can't apply the same goddamn rules to Daniel and call it Daniel-centric. --Golden Monkey 12:29, September 4, 2009 (UTC)

Why could it not be both? Lost has major twists, this could be one of the twists. Daniel flash-forward after Pierre's flashback. Is that not normal in LOST? I think both. Or was Daniel looking when Chang came out his bed etc.? That's what i think. --Station7 13:00, September 4, 2009 (UTC)

No I mean a Chang flashback, stops when he bumped into Faraday, Faraday flash-forward. Chang(FB)->Faraday and Chang(stops for Chang)->Faraday(FF).--Station7 13:04, September 4, 2009 (UTC)

Don't be angry, I know it's a Daniel-centric.--Station7 13:06, September 4, 2009 (UTC)

Daniel and The Lamp Post. Since we know that Eloise Hawking is Faraday's mother is there a high chance that Daniel visited The Lamp Post. OK, we never seen him in the lamp post, but he could visited this station off-screen also if we not see it in season 6. Who knows?--Station7 13:13, September 5, 2009 (UTC)

Not yet a professor in Constant flashback? Timeline mix-up?

Are we certain that Daniel is already a professor at Oxford when Desmond visits him in 1996? I believe that he may be pre-doctorate.

We know Daniel is pretty careless when it comes to experiments, but I would really hate to think he was testing his machine on Theresa before he was testing on rats. Besides, how is he able to warp Theresa's mind if he didn't yet recieve the correct numbers from Desmond? It seems like Daniel was witnessing his beam machine's success for the first time when he was doing the maze experiment with his rat, Eloise. If the machine is something that Oxford "frowns upon" then why would Oxford even grant him a research assistant? I think after the Eloise experiment he has some justification for his research, and then Theresa comes along.

"He was also the sixth character to die in his own centric episode."

I take it the other five are Shannon, Eko, Charlie, Nikki and Paolo, but what about Locke in The Life and Death of Jeremy Bentham? ESachs 18:05, November 24, 2009 (UTC)

  • Charlie didn't die in his centric, he died in Jack's centric. But anyway, Locke's a weird case because we already knew he was dead, we just saw why. --Golden Monkey 18:50, November 24, 2009 (UTC)
  • Yes, Locke is a weird case since he died in what is technically a flashback. He was already dead during the present time off-island in Season 5. Does it still count as dying in his centric if it's only in flashback? And I assume the person who wrote that statement, wrote it before "The Incident, Part 1" so as far we knew at that point, Locke was alive.--Baker1000 20:54, November 24, 2009 (UTC)

Eye Colour

Should the different eye colour in the scene from "The Variable" be in the trivia section, cause I swear I saw that?(Metroid101 03:20, January 11, 2010 (UTC))

Jughead?????

Why is jughead listed under centric episodes???? It's Desmond centric! I dont understand... WaltVincent10797 20:23, May 14, 2010 (UTC)

John 3:16

Daniel is the Christ figure. The sideways time is his 6 weeks between Easter and Pentecost (the night of the finale). He comes to realize that he needs another martyr. He failed. And between Ben's discourse on St. Thomas and Hugo's grasping his true nature, Jack is converted. Faraday gives Jack peace: David represents the son he will never have but also proves he would have been a good father. jack is able to make John walk; it would have worked. Daniel (through Desmond) warns Ben not stop the sacrifice. Desmond also gives Hugo a glimpse of his power. Desmond's final words to Eli are a death sentence. As in the scene when Jacob is awed by Hugo's ability.The constant will take over; the variable will return to heaven. The finale up until the horrible church scene is Daniel putting creation back on the right track.--Past recaptured 21:22, August 11, 2010 (UTC)--Past recaptured 21:22, August 11, 2010 (UTC)

Flash Sideways changes

Why are some people changing Flash Sideways to Post Death /Afterlife? I am under the impression, we are using the creators terminology Flash Sideways unless there is specific clarification from Cuse/Lindelof, perhaps in the LOST Encyclopedia that is coming out soon. If there is no clarification, I thought we were to continue using the creators terminology. I got this impression from Plkrtn's comments on the Flash Sideways World talk page. Is this correct? --Just Sayin' JSTalk LBC LBCTalk eMail 20:18, August 27, 2010 (UTC)

Flash in "Because You Left"?

Wasn't that Pierre's flash, if anything? Just as "Man of Science, Man of Faith"'s opening was Desmond's flash, not Locke's, and "A Tale of Two Cities"'s was Juliet's, not Ben's? --- Balk Of Fametalk 18:45, September 19, 2010 (UTC)

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