Contents 1 Number of stations? 2 Possible Station Locations 3 Screencaps for that secret code? 4 wth 5 fanmade video 6 Theory validity 7 Merging 8 Idea 9 Station names themed around the god Apollo. 10 Looking Glass 11 Dharma Station Numbers 12 Merge 13 Blast Door Map geography and stations 14 Station numbers 15 Looking Glass 16 The -----!? 17 The Temple Station 18 Dharma Logos 19 Arrow = #1? Why?? 20 The DSA Station logo

Number of stations?Edit

Ok it looks like we have counted 9 when their are only supposed to be six stations. I'm assuming six stations were dedicated to actual research projects. The remaining stations provided another service. The Arrow was used for supply storage. The Staff was just a medical station for dharma workers...research wasn't the goal of this station...the health of the Dharma members was all this station was intended for. The Looking Glass simply maintained the island's invisibility and allowed dharma friendly vessels to reach the island if they were sending out the right signal. The other six dealt with the actual research.

• Not necessarily. It is only implied by the films that there are only six stations. In the movies, the total amount of the stations is not told, only station 3, etc. The number in the movie (for example 5 of 6) possibly indicates the number of parts for this particular station. Furthermore, this number could either the number of edition for this film or different versions for the diffent persons operating the station. This is likly, because it was already confirmed that every station has an orientation film. Additionally, the credits at the end of the Swan Orientation Film state the year 1980. Since it is proved by various sources that the DHARMA Initiative operated before 1980, it would make no sense to produce orientation films for already existing station. This strongly implies that there have been more than one edition.

Possible Station Locations Edit

This is highly theoretical ofcourse.

• Orion's Belt -- Underwater
  • What is carried in a cantine?
  • Where does a shark live?
  • Where does the cable go?
  • Janelle's Diary mentioned something emerging from the water
  • Mystery Island

• Crater -- The crater depicted in Rousseau's maps and notes

• Corvus -- The highest peak of the mountain (just a guess)

--skks 08:35, 12 March 2006 (PST)

Screencaps for that secret code?Edit

Anyone? --aurora glacialis 15:24, 23 March 2006 (PST)

I guess the best chance would be in One of Them when Sawyer goes through Hurley's sack of food. The cereal box's number is shown in two parts, the antiseptic fluid code is shown only partially and the few frames where it could be seen totally were conveniently removed in editing, which leaves me to believe the code holds some significance atleast. --skks 23:16, 23 March 2006 (PST)

wthEdit

Does anyone have any idea what "The code in Swan items is the access code for the Swan station." means? If it's talking about a code that appears on certain items in The Swan, then it should be clear as to what items, I've only seen a code on the cereal box in The Whole Truth. It also doesn't explain what "access code" means.ArgentiumOutlaw 02:37, 26 March 2006 (PST)

fanmade videoEdit

I removed the video reference from the main screen since it was fairly obvious from the logos this was fanmade (and done after the first few eps of season 2 aired)--Isotope23 11:27, 22 May 2006 (PDT)

Theory validityEdit

This point from the theories section:

• In one of the Lost podcasts, Damon and Carlton insinuated that the Arrow "station" might not be a station at all but rather just a supply bunker, and that many other "Arrows" might be on the Island.

I don't remember this insinuation, and a specific date should really be given anyway. Does anyone remember the exact Podcast date of this? --Nickb123 09:44, 5 June 2006 (PDT)

Well, gone --Nickb123 12:26, 9 June 2006 (PDT)

MergingEdit

• I think we should merge this article with the DHARMA Initiative article. The content isn't really going to expand that much and I think it would fit alot better over there.--Peephole 04:29, 31 July 2006 (PDT)
• Merge: They are part of the Dharma Initiative.--CaptainInsano
• Keep. Wikipedia has its own page for this, so why can't the Wiki that specialises in Lost have one? --SilvaStorm
  • We already have specific pages for each station. This is just a small list with a small description. I think it would improve the DHARMA Initiative article if we'd put it in there. --Peephole 07:32, 3 August 2006 (PDT)
• Merge: --Phmall 10:28, 3 August 2006 (PDT)
• Merge: Since when did we start going Wikipedia's way? --Gateboy42 16:37, 15 August 2006 (PDT)
• Strong keep: It should have its own page - we're a Lost encyclopedia, so why not have it here? Putting it on the DI article would just make it even more clumped. --SilvaStorm
• Keep: its nice to have a page that summaries the stations and gives an overview. Considering there's gonna be like 8 stations judging from the blast door map, this article is a good idea, with you clicking the one you want for more details etc --Nickb123 (Talk) 06:01, 23 August 2006 (PDT)
• Keep: We don't want pages getting too big, eh.

--Chris 07:28, 24 August 2006 (PDT)

• Comment: Actually the only thing left to merge are the theories. --Peephole 08:26, 24 August 2006

Idea Edit

Does anyone think we should redirect the Hatch disambiguation page to here, and add The Hatch (Swan Exterior) and The ? (Pearl Exterior)? It makes sense, because 'hatches' are DI stations. --SilvaStorm

Definitly not! This page should be redirected and merged the DHARMA Initiative article. All the information here is just a copy of the individual stations! --Peephole 05:15, 23 August 2006 (PDT)

I like this page as you've got a summary of each station on the island, and then for more details you go into each one. Its nice to have a station overview --Nickb123 (Talk) 05:28, 23 August 2006 (PDT)

Station names themed around the god Apollo. Edit

This should be mentioned somewhere.

• What does that mean? There's already some mention about them having a Greek myth theme, is that what you meant? That's on the theories page. --Jackdavinci 09:28, 30 March 2007 (PDT)

Yeah, thanks. I've only just seen the "Theories" tab up there...--Occono 07:11, 3 April 2007 (PDT)

After thinking about it, I think its alot more than a greek myth theme:

• (Swan) Swans are sacred to Apollo
• (Arrow) Apollo's most common attribute is the bow and arrow
• (Hydra) There is a story of Apollo and the Hydra involving Apollo's raven.
• (Flame) Apollo is the sun god
• (Staff) Apollo is a god of religious healing

The only one that doesn't fit so far is the Pearl. The closest I can come to an apollo reference is that the pearl represents the sun or that it represents the moon and thus Apollo's sister Artemis. Dharmatel4 07:45, 3 April 2007 (PDT)

Yeah, that was the stuff I was thinking about. --Occono 07:24, 20 April 2007 (PDT)

Looking GlassEdit

Is the logo for the Station a Rabbit? I think so from Sayid's map, but I'm not sure. --Gluphokquen Gunih ▲ 20:50, 16 May 2007 (PDT)

Dharma Station Numbers Edit

There are 7 or more stations on the island, but only 6 numbers. Some stations may not have numbers, only those pursuing active research. The Arrow would not be numbered since it is a support facility, unless it studies mathematics, as hinted in the man behind the curtain. The Hydra would have a number, since it studies zoology. The Swan has a number (obviously) and the Pearl too (psychology) and the Flame and Staff are Major, non-research stations. The looking glass is questionable. This puts at least 3+ stations undiscovered on the island (a theory).

--DharmaMan 15:17, 18 May 2007 (PDT)

It was my understanding from the Lost Experience that the six numbered stations were just the ones doing experiments on the 6 variables in the Valenzeti (sp?) equation. One station per experiment per variable (each variable of which was stuck at the value of respectively 4, 8, 15, 16, 23, and 42). The point of the station experiments was to somehow alter the value of any or all of the variables. The stations that had purposes other than Valenzeti experiments were secondary and unnumbered. --Jackdavinci 20:03, 26 May 2007 (PDT)

MergeEdit

• Merge: The Article of the DHARMA Initiative would look more interesting with the list of the stations, off course keeping the table of the logoes in the article. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by CharlesBrigman (talk • contribs), 16:44, 26 May 2007 (UTC).

• Disagree: The Dharma Initiative Page already has links to all of the articles and merging the two would be pointless. This is a IMO needed article that does not need merging. -Mr.Leaf 09:56, 27 May 2007 (PDT)
• Disagree: Simply, keep this seperate. --Magnet 21:06, 28 May 2007 (PDT)

No: Please note this article survived a previous merge nomination. Speedy keep unles you've got something new to add --Nickb123 (Talk) 04:34, 29 May 2007 (PDT)

• Disagree: As others have stated above. --Doc 10:14, 29 May 2007 (PDT)

Blast Door Map geography and stations Edit

I've removed the geographical directions from the article derived from the blast door map and replaced them with the position of the station (top, bottom, top right) on the map. There are no directional markers on the blast door map as far as I can see and assuming that the top of the map is "north" is inconsistant with every physical map in the show. Dharmatel4 14:39, 9 December 2007 (PST)

Station numbersEdit

There seems to be confusion about why there has been more than 6 dharma stations found, yet the orientations videos and the blast door map imply there are only six. There are only six stations on the main island: The Swan, The Pearl, The Flame, The Staff, The Arrow, and The Orchid (as confirmed by Carlton Cuse.) The stations Hydra and Looking Glass are not on the main island, hence do not count toward the 6. I have edited the page to make this distinction clearer. User:hyeok

See the season 3 DVD extras. You are wrong. Dharmatel4 13:48, 20 December 2007 (PST)

Please be more specific about what is wrong. It is true that the orientation videos say there are 6 stations. It is true that The Swan, Pearl, Flame, Staff, Arrow, and Orchid are on the main island. It is also true that the Hydra is on a separate island. Furthermore, it is also true that the Looking Glass is underwater and hence not on the main island. What information from Season 3 DVD extras are you referring to?

Finally, I don't see why information about The Orchid is season 4 spoiler, if all the information is taken from the already-released Orchid orientation video? None of the information was based on any season 4 spoilers. User:hyeok

- The logo for the Orchid wasn't in the orientation film. Its been derived from screencaps from season 4.

- We do not know that the orchid's function is biological or cloning. That is a theory

As far as the six stations, see the answers on dharma orientation films in the blu-ray dvd extras. Beyond that, your ideas that Hydra and Looking Glass don't get numbers because they are not on the island is a theory. Dharmatel4 14:16, 20 December 2007 (PST)

Ok, so the Orchid logo and its function should not belong in the article. However, anything taken from the orientation film itself should be there.

Also,the part about Looking Glass and Hydra not getting numbers because they are not on the island is indeed a theory, which is why I mentioned it here on the discussion page. However, that theory was never on the main article itself. I merely put the Hydra and the Looking Glass on a different section of the article based merely on the fact that they are indeed not on the main island. And I understand that the Blu-ray extra features say there might be more stations. But this fact is not relevant to the issue at hand? We are debating whether the Orchid should get a separate section in the article or not .

My main objection is that the Orchid is under the "Possible Stations" section currently. This is misleading and incorrect as the Orchid is no longer a "possible station." Perhaps the name of that section should be changed to "Station not shown in the TV show". But this is also not correct because "The Door" would no longer belong in that section. I think the best way to avoid this problem is to simply give all officially confirmed stations its own section, without any spoilers from unaired episodes, of course. This would mean that The Orchid would get its own section, along with all the other official stations.

Finally, my changes to the station numbers in the article were also all based on legitimate sources. For example, having the station number to the Arrow as "1 (?)" is confusing. This is why I fixed it to "1 (According to the Season 2 DVD)", which makes clearer where the possibly unreliable information comes from.

For now, I have held off on the most controversial change (adding the Orchid as a section). However, I have added sources for where the station numbers come from. (In particular, the station number for the Arrow comes from the Season 2 DVDs, while the station numbers for Pearl and Swan come from their respective orientation videos. Finally the station number for the Flame come from the blast door map.)

User:hyeok

- The situation with the Arrow has come up multiple times before. The material your talking about says that it was the first staiton not station number one. We don't know what they meant by first station and therefore the word "unconfirmed" appears next to the suggestion that its station 1.

- I don't care where you put the Orchid. But you have to put information that is confirmed and you can't put season 4 spoilers in the information. That means the logo has to stay out and unconfirmed speculation about the function of the Orchid also has has to stay out. I removed it previously because those two things represented nearly all the content. Dharmatel4 22:42, 20 December 2007 (PST)

Looking Glass Edit

On the blast door map, the station marked with "c4?" looks like it might be in the ocean. Does it seem to anyone else that "c4?" is Looking Glass? Also maybe "c3?" is the Hydra? Just musing. --Doc 12:08, 21 December 2007 (PST)

The commentary on the S3 blue-rays makes it clear that the looking glass is not on the map. Dharmatel4 14:01, 22 December 2007 (PST)

The -----!? Edit

What the hell man! I was just reading this wiki page, and look at the other possible stations.. And I see a damn spoiler in the article! The Other Woman hasn't even aired yet and its already in the article? God damn. --Apollo Candy 18:13, 3 March 2008 (PST)

WHOA! Thank you, thank you, thank you! Glad to see you're watching out for spoilers. BETTYFIZZW (Talk) 18:25, 3 March 2008 (PST) Bold text

The Temple Station Edit

As revealed on Ben's map in Meet Kevin Johnson, The Temple is apparently a DHARMA station. So, shouldn't it be added to this page, and all DHARMA-related indexes and stuff ? Bookhouse88 09:15, 21 March 2008 (PDT)

• Agreed It seems very obvious that it is a certifiable DHARMA station.--KirkaFordis Rex 22:47, 19 December 2008 (UTC)

Dharma Logos Edit

Who makes these Dharma Initiative logos on lostpedia? They seem to be very well fan made logos, but where do they get the same fonts to make the DHARMA word inside the logo?

If you click on one of the logos it will tell you who uploaded it. I don't think they found the DHARMA font, they just found the best quality "DHARMA" that was available and traced it. --Jackdavinci 09:23, 24 March 2008 (PDT)

Arrow = #1? Why??Edit

• Why is The Arrow listed as Station 1?? It says unconfirmed - there are other unknown stations - I see no reason why The Arrow has precedence.--Overworkedirish 01:23, 30 April 2008 (PDT)
  • It's implied in one of the DVD special features, but the wording is unclear. See the main Arror article for more info. --Jackdavinci 07:12, 30 April 2008 (PDT)
  • It isn't #1, 1 of 6, first, etc. Within the context of the show, the Arrow's number designation is still unknown. Please refer to the Arrow's trivia section for a detailed explanation.  Kevrock   talk  contribs   11:42, 24 June 2008 (PDT)

The DSA Station logoEdit

So the content from the DSA is not considered a spoiler so it's okay to upload the image. But why can't we post the image of the station when in the e-mail from abc for the DSA it says that it is a new station. Here's a quote from the e-mail "What's this? Why, it looks like a first-look at an as-yet-unseen Dharma station logo. Hmmmmmmm... I wonder what the name of the station is?" People who are not part of the DSA should be able to log on and look at the picture of the station without having to watch all 2 minutes of video from the DSA. Just because we know nothing about the station shouldn't mean that we can't show a picture of it. --KirkaFordis Rex 16:31, 16 December 2008 (PST)

• You can add a bullet point mentioning the logo, but it doesn't need an entire table like this. -- CTS  Talk   Contribs 17:54, 16 December 2008 (PST)

• I agree with CTS. Until the actual station is revealed, the logo itself doesn't need a box. -- Sam McPherson  T  C  E  18:45, 16 December 2008 (PST)

Done, and done. But without sounding like a divisive schmuck, what harm would it be to have it in a box?--KirkaFordis Rex 23:10, 19 December 2008 (UTC)