Contents 1 Actor/Doctor 2 HE'S DEAD 3 Sara 4 Who's his Daughter? 5 did family #1 know about family #2? 6 Face in the polar bear cave? 7 Flashback Flashes 8 ha! 9 Seen in Exposé? 10 Timeline 11 Confirmed Dead 12 Definitely dead 13 Missing Pieces 14 The Beginning of the End 15 Question 16 Undead 17 white shoe 18 Kiddo 19 status battle 20 Name Symbolism 21 Is that Christian standing on the dock in "Some Like It Hoth"? 22 Merge After-death with Jacob's Enemy 23 How does he appear during the time shifts? 24 Christian's Body Missing from the Coffin 25 2 questions - An appearance by a young Christian, and shoes? 26 On Island sightings of Christian 27 Outlaws 28 Flash Sideways changes 29 Christian he is dead: guess who assumed his form?

Actor/Doctor Edit

The actor portraying the head doctor of Christian's peer review board is Mark Dillen Stitham, M.D., a board-certified psychiatrist and part-time actor in Honolulu. He not only is a doctor but has also been the head doctor of a peer review board.

HE'S DEADEdit

• Darlton have CONFIRMED that he is dead in the bodily sense. But he is one of three characters to be classified as "undead".

The Others brought him back as a zombie to lead them? Is there any basis on this theory? --skks 07:52, 3 April 2006 (PDT)

• There was a spoiler on the internet that said it would be revealed later this season that Christian is the leader of the others. I believe this turned out to be an April Fools prank. --Uth 12:59, 3 April 2006 (PDT)

I thought I told you guys that I was the leader of the others.    Jabberwock    talk    contribs    email   - Jabrwocky7 06:52, 14 April 2006 (PDT)

• I'm new to this (hi!) so i'm not sure what to do, but i have a theory that he might not actually be dead he could have faked his own dead for insurance money, like locke's father and thats why the coffin was empty. if he had lost his job prehaps he needed the money? also that could be why he wanted to see his daughter, before he "died". he could have had friends in austrila that were willing to con jack for a share of the money. --Bunnyclaw 08:47, 6 July 2006 (PDT)

• I'm not too sure that the flash-forward was a flash-forward... it could easily have been a flashback. Kate and Jack could have known each other before landing on the island this time, and could have been there already (perhaps as part of Dharma for example). This would explain why Jack's father is alive in the "flash-forward", and why oceanic airlines is still out of business - but would open interesting questions about why Jack and Kate wanted to go back and why they are so keen to get off this time (and without telling anyone). --Thehcd 05:44, 29 May 2007 (PDT)

• I recall Damon/Carlton mentioning in a podcast that there would be more flash-forwards. (I couldn't find the podcast where this happened, so it might just be my imagination.) Either way I think them being on the island before would make it unlikely. It would mean that the whole series Jack and Kate were lying to everyone. Not knowing where everything on the island was. Also, Oceanic Airlines is not out of business. Jack mentions getting a gold pass and using it and we see him on the plane coming home when he sees the obituary. (whoever that might be *cough cough* Michael *cough*) Conclusion: Though it might be possible, especially in the world of Lost, I think it's come to be accepted as a flash-forward. Jack was not sober when he asked to bring his father down.

• With Locke's dad, Anthony Cooper, he faked his death but his body was never shown, and Locke never saw a body. In the case of Christian, Jack saw the body in the morgue, so faking the death would have required the cooperation of that hospital, not to mention that he'd have to appear dead to his surgeon son. Seems incredibly unlikely. In the case of something like a TV show, if we see the dead body, it's usually safe to assume they're really dead; if we're told that someone died but it happened offscreen and we are never shown a body, it's safe to have doubts that the character is dead. Minderbinder 11:39, 19 September 2006 (PDT)

• He isn't dead. In the flash-forward Jack tells his boss to bring Christian Shepard down (to prove that he's drunker than Jack)). This indicates he's alive... Also, the producers said that he may only be dead in a metaphorical sense.

• "Bring him down" doesn't have to mean that he is upstairs in the Hospital. Jack could very well be just ironic and ask that the doctor bring his father down from heaven, saying he'd still be drinking up there. It would fit Jack's character very well, as well as the producer's goal to let the audience believe it's actually a flashback. Anamon 12:58, 16 July 2007 (PDT)

• I'm sorry, Anamon, but that's an incredibly stupid theory. My belief is that he said to bring his father down because he was completely intoxicated, on both booze and pills, and his father's death is quite possibly still something that haunts him. Mix those together and there's your solution; he said something pretty out there while under the influence. Christian Shepard should still be listed as deceased until concrete evidence of anything otherwise is given. Tabula rasa 09:10, 26 July 2007 (PDT)

• Also let's not forget that Jack see's his father on the Island, so it could be that he is so depressed that he's not sure what to believe any more. Most likely he is just letting off steam. Sevenupcan 10:40, February 9, 2010 (UTC)Sevenupcan

• Immediately after the episode, I was thinking along the same lines as Anamon, it's not a stupid theory. If Jack was talking metaphorically, it would make perfect sense. Especially considering the doctor's head tilt to his this comment, effectively saying, "Jack, you know I can't do that". However, since that time I've had another thought. What if all this Bad Twin business is for Christian? What if the body Jack identified in Sydney was an unknown twin uncle? He doesn't know (yet) about his half-sister, maybe his father kept a twin uncle secret too. Remember, we see Christian in the bar with Sawyer, then we see Jack ID the body in the morgue. We haven't actually seen Christian die. I also agree with Tabula Rasa, he should still be listed as dead until there is concrete proof otherwise.--Hurley's Dad 18:44, 9 August 2007 (PDT)

• Bit of a long shot, but I like it. --Sam McPherson 12:35, 25 January 2008 (PST)

Sara Edit

The fact that when giving Ana-Lucia an anonymous name he chose "Sara" seemingly out of the blue, supports the theory that he had been sleeping with his son Jack's wife prior to their divorce, and may have even fathered her aborted child. ...Or it could just be a coincidence that he named Ana-Lucia his son's ex-wife's name. What significance "Tom" might have to Ana-Lucia will probably never be known. ZachsMind 09:19, 4 May 2006 (PDT)

Aborted child? Has the show made any mention of Sara having an abortion, or even being pregnant? --Minderbinder 11:58, 19 September 2006 (PDT)

Hey guys how could u assume that he had an affair with his son's ex-wife.. You have to forget about it and "JUST LET IT GO".

Who's his Daughter? Edit

With everything else that happened in Two for the Road, it seems that this point got, well lost. While confronting Lindsey, he demanded to see his daughter. I immediately think Claire, but that seems too obvious. Any other ideas?

I tend to think the daughter he is refering to is young enough to live with her. If it really was Claire he'd try to find her as she lives on her own, it seems or at least he'd be asking Lindsey where he could fine her. Plus Lindsey looks too young to be Claire's mother. --LostCat 04:44, 10 May 2006 (PDT)

In real life, the actress who plays Lindsey, Gabrielle Fitzpatrick, is 15 years older than Emilie de Ravin. That's not out of the realm of possibility, and the show may intend to stretch that age difference even more. Minderbinder 11:56, 19 September 2006 (PDT)

What other australian female could it be? Certainly not Cindy...she and Lindsey didn't seem that far apart in age. It's not Charlotte Malkin because we've already seen her mother. Even when factoring in non australians females we know it isn't Kate, Sun, Shannon, Danielle, Rose, Libby, Ana Lucia, Ms Klugh or Alex. Claire is the only logical contender at this point.—The preceding unsigned comment was added by Ksofen666 (talk • contribs) .

There aren't any other likely candidates within the characters on the show (although we still can't completely rule out people like Kate or Shannon, as unlikely as they may seem). But it could simply be a new character we've never met. Claire is a likely possibility but we can't say for sure. --Minderbinder 12:08, 5 October 2006 (PDT)

Well, now that we know it is Claire & that he's been keeping tabs on her & her mother, I think it's likely that he hired Richard Malkin (the psychic) to try to convince Claire to keep her baby. When that didn't work, I think he got Malkin to convince her to go to Los Angeles to give the baby to a fake couple (also hired by Christian). Even tho it seemed that he was foreseeing that the plane would go down, it was just happenstance. That's why Malkin told Eko that he (Malkin) was really a fraud. --Pableaux 08:34, 18 March 2007 (PDT)

did family #1 know about family #2? Edit

Is there any indication that jack and his mom know or don't know that christian has a daughter and babymama in australia? --Ernest 10:16, 12 May 2006 (PDT)

Possibly. Jack's mom did look a little worried that her husband was in Australia... --[[User:Aero Zeppelin|Aero*Zeppelin]] 18:49, 20 July 2006 (PDT)

Of course she was her husband ran off to Austraila because his son got him fired, and oh yeah he has a drinking problem.--

Presumably Jack didn't know. Margo Shepard probably knows Christian isn't faithful but probably has no clue about Christian's other family.

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Face in the polar bear cave? Edit

Any proof of that? Say a screencap? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Waux Trident (talk • contribs) .

Flashback Flashes Edit

• Can he just have one, like just {{Nav-JackFlash}}. I just think that having three of them makes the page looks untidy. Maybe we could make a Nav template for recurring flashback characters: Christian, Anthony Cooper, Kelvin, etc? --   Lost Soul   talk  contribs  12:10, 6 February 2007 (PST)

ha! Edit

watch him blink :P Emuka 11:25, 24 March 2007 (PDT)

Seen in Exposé? Edit

Somebody has added on the main page that "Christian was also seen in Expose. He was seen in the beach when Nikki was looking for Paulo." This does not appear to be true. Can anybody provide any evidence or support this? Otherwise it should be deleted.--TechNic 20:42, 30 March 2007 (PDT)

Timeline Edit

I figured that Christain went to Jack's wedding after he visited Claire when he mom was in a coma, and thats why he was almost late to the wedding. Is there anything to confirm or deny this?

Confirmed Dead Edit

Confirmed dead on the 4.20 podcast --Presariocompaq 09:16, 23 April 2007 (PDT)

Removed the 'Unanswered Question' relating to whether he is still alive or not, as he is confirmed to be dead. Liquidcow 06:37, 9 May 2007 (PDT)

Definitely dead Edit

The most recent podcast confirmed him as dead. Damon said whilst in a call to a fan something along the lines of "Well it can't be Christian, because he's dead" I can't remember the exact line, if someone can, please do say.

• "Carlton Cuse: I mean, the man... no, Mikhail's dead. He is. But of course you know, in Lost, being dead does not mean you don't work on the show; I mean, look at Christian Shephard - that dude's done ten episodes, and he's been dead."  Liveweak  15:57, 4 January 2008 (PST)

Christian faked his death using the spider venom that caused the couple to be buried alive. This could be a parrallel to the resurrection of Jesus Christ.--Ouidybird 22:18, 26 September 2007 (PDT)Ouidybird

• Hmm...that's an interesting theory. I think that he was in that coffin for a while though so I'm not entirely sure he could live after that. And there have been repeated podcasts of the producers saying he's dead.  Liveweak  15:57, 4 January 2008 (PST)

• Here is some more confirmation that Christian is dead. From the Season 3 Blu-ray feature Access: Granted: "Carlton Cuse: Jack’s father Christian Sheppard is dead but still manages to show up in the show. So, but in terms of actually physically corporally in existence though, he’s dead." As for Jack's dialog in "Through the Looking Glass, Part 1", Matthew Fox gave an interview explaining it: "MATTHEW FOX: He was so loaded and emotionally distraught that he talks about his father as if he's still alive. I called Damon on it, and he gave me a couple stories — actual accounts of people whose very close relative [died], and in a moment of being really f---ed up, talked about them as if they did not know they were not alive. In that moment, Jack is losing track of any concept of time. I knew that there was a way to look at it and go, Well, that's kind of manipulative. But when you [realize], Oh, it's in the future, you can believe that the man — years after his father has actually passed away — says that about his father in that moment. I totally buy it." -- Graft   talk   contributions  20:48, 25 January 2008 (PST)

Missing PiecesEdit

Should his appearence in the first mobisode be added to appearences? --Gluphokquen Gunih ▲ 11:20, 8 November 2007 (PST) Yes, because mobisodes are part of the story. Also, this kind of confirms that Christian is/was alive at some point on the island? Why was he on the plane? omg, LOST! --Avindratalkcontribs email  12:57, 29 January 2008 (PST) Taking this episode and the Season Four premiere into consideration, maybe Christian really is alive and well? Hell, maybe hes in on the whole Oceanic 6 conspiracy thing --Avindratalkcontribs email  20:01, 31 January 2008 (PST)

Christian's physical body is dead, thats confirmed. However, there is something about Christian and his connection to the different characters on the Island, and the Island himself that makes him different to everyone who has either died there (Boone, Shannon, Ana-Lucia) or whose body has arrived there and then appeared to people Yemi. He's appeared in front of multiple people now Jack, Hurley and as far as I'm aware we've not been told of Hurley having any pre-Island connection to him. -- Plkrtn  talk  contribs  email  12:30, 2 February 2008 (PST)

Is there a reason why Jack put his father's shoes on Locke other than to re-create the original flight conditions? Will this have some significance for Christian or for the shapeshifter/Jacob's Enemy? Why did Christian say he could not help Locke get to the wheel? He does have physical form because he has touched other things and people (Aaron).--AllanJack 01:34, 15 May 2009 (UTC)

The Beginning of the End Edit

Christian sits in the rocking chair in the cabin... We cut away and come back to see a more heavily shadowed figure... Jack? Cbstrul 20:03, 31 January 2008 (PST)

Its Jacob. The eye is the same as last time as far as I can tell. And we don't actually cut away. Somebody moves in front of Christian and looks out the window at Hurley. Dharmatel4 20:06, 31 January 2008 (PST)

The person who moves in front of Christian is John Locke. It looked a lot like his eye, and the eye from Season 3. Also makes sense that John would return to Jacob's cabin and how he was by Hurley's side so quickly.

It cuts to Hurley, then what was Christian is now heavily shadowed... not Chrisitan... Then Lock's eye.

Can anyone get an image of the "shadowed Christian" on here?

That's still Christian... my bad.

Question Edit

Obviously with the mobisode and "The Beginning of the End" new questions about Christian are brought up. One that i have is if he IS alive (including his appearances on the island in season 1) why was he acting so strange? appearing only to jack, appearing with his back turned, not saying anything, disappearing, etc. and why would he speak to Vincent (mobisode 13) and not his own son if that really is the real Christian not just a force of the island using his body or Jacob or some other unexplained thing? there has to be more to it than he is just alive. --TheOrchid 17:43, 1 February 2008 (PST)

Undead Edit

In the latest Lost podcast Darlton discussed what certain things were and said that Christian Shephard, along with Yemi and Kate's horse was on their "Undead" board. Is this information worthy of putting in the article, or is it too spoilery?--J-- 14:45, 31 March 2008 (PDT)

He's "Undead" as much as Locke is now "Undead". Think about the similarities. Both fligh 815 and 316 went down when there was an energy/flash whatever on the island. Both were in coffins...dead in their respective coffins. Locke was resurrected on the beach, why can't Christian be resurrected by the caves? If that's the case, Christian must be one of the original "hostiles" on the island with Widmore and Hawkings. --Scribble72 15:29, 19 March 2009 (UTC)

white shoe Edit

Should this be mentioned in this article as well (forgive me if I missed it) -- LOSTonthisdarnisland 20:58, 1 April 2008 (PDT)

• In that he was wearing them in So It Begins you mean?--J-- 07:10, 2 April 2008 (PDT)

Kiddo Edit

I may be the only one, but I've always found it really funny that Christian refers to Jack, Ana-Lucia, and Claire as "kiddo" constantly. It just reminds me of my grandfather. Evil-pineapples 18:21, 5 May 2008 (PDT)

status battle Edit

The status keeps changing... I invite everyone to discuss making the status policy more clear on the policy talk page Template_talk:Infobox_Island_Character#Status, --Jackdavinci 15:16, 12 May 2008 (PDT)

Given that he is confirmed deceased by the producers, I'm failing to see why this is an issue. --Xbenlinusx 23:17, 15 May 2008 (PDT)

I agree, but some users keep changing Claire and Christian's statuses to unknown, because Christian is appearing as an island vision or whatever he is, and because they think Claire died and is now whatever Christian is. The infobox doesn't give clear guidelines, so it would be nice to have a definitive guideline there to point to. --Jackdavinci 02:07, 16 May 2008 (PDT)

I'm not sure that makes it a "Battle" per se, more ignorance on peoples part to read the talk page. --Xbenlinusx 11:19, 16 May 2008 (PDT)

Claire should be Unknown and Christian Deceased. --TheEyeland 01:35, 3 December 2008 (PST)

Name Symbolism Edit

Shouldn't this whole section be moved to the Theory tab? Agree, disagree? moss ryder 08:28, 12 February 2009 (UTC)

Is that Christian standing on the dock in "Some Like It Hoth"? Edit

It really looks like him. He'd be the fellow standing directly behind Miles in this screencap. Saukkomies 17:57, 17 April 2009 (UTC)

Merge After-death with Jacob's Enemy Edit

Now we know that post-death Locke is Jacob's Enemy, I think there should be at least discussion on whether to merge Christian's actions post-death with Jacob's Enemy since they are the same person.

• I disagree. It's useful to keep this information in one place for people who are interested in seeing which episodes ghost/possessed Christian appeared in. It's also not clear if MIB was every single manifestation of Christian. (Mirth23 19:42, April 23, 2010 (UTC))

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I completely agree to that.

He does say to Locke that he's been chosen... And remember Eko's brother, who clearly was Jacob's enemy (he admits it to Eko just before to kill him)

And Eko's brother body did disappear just before he took his appearance.

Why it didn't do this with Locke sure is a mistery, but that will certainly be explained in the show.

Jacob's enemy has a physical presence, and proved several times he could interact with the real world, so he maybe just moved the corpses to mess with some minds (like Jack's).

But what is sure, is that it's not Christian, so it's kind of silly to attributes Jacob's enemy story to Christian's.

At least, let people choose what they want before we have the writers' explainations, but don't let such a thing : "He said he can talk in Jacob's behalf" ... --Atarada 23:30, 29 June 2009 (UTC)

He is the father of two main characters: Jack and Claire. Has this to be by trvia?--Station7 09:32, 7 July 2009 (UTC)

How does he appear during the time shifts? Edit

He appears during the fourteenth time shift near the FDW when he tells Locke all those things. Now, this is an unknown time, but it's surely long before the 815 crashed, meaning that he appears to Locke before his body was ever there. You could say his body time traveled with other Losties, but then how could Jacob or his nemesis possess him then if they didn't even know about him at that stage? This was way before the fifties. I put it as an unanswered question on Christian's article.--Bwanar ^talk|contrib 00:13, 29 July 2009 (UTC)

Christian's Body Missing from the Coffin Edit

In the alternative timeline when Jack gets off the plane he is told by the airport agent that they do not know where his father's body is. Could this signify that in the orginal timeline that his father's body was never on the plane? Or could it simply be that in the alternate timeline the circumstances changed prior to being on the flight which lead to Christian's body never reaching the plane. I find this interesting because when Jack found his father's coffin near the cave it was empty. Perhaps we were lead to believe his body landed on the Island via the Oceanic 815 crash when in actual fact it was never in the cofin. Sevenupcan 11:28, February 9, 2010 (UTC)Sevenupcan

• Considering John Locke's body was not in the coffin but in the box (I'm assuming), it causes me to wonder if airlines don't store bodies in coffins in the cargo holds, or if Ilana &Co. dumped the coffin to carry Locke around in the box.--Aradran 18:28, February 9, 2010 (UTC)Aradran, aka MrBMusicMan

2 questions - An appearance by a young Christian, and shoes? Edit

Did I make this up, sorry if so - I feel I might have done as I can't find reference to it, but I'm sure that Christian was on the island, was one of the early expedition with the young Charles Wigmore, and Eloise. (Putting it sometime around The Variable, and, Jughead). He was a bit of a surly character, one of their crew, and am sure he was called Christian. If so, it must increase his role in all the subsequent manipulations.

A second question - why did Jack have to take something of his fathers - his shoes as it turned out, back to the island. Didn't get that at all. Cheers. --Jollytea 03:48, April 8, 2010 (UTC)

On Island sightings of ChristianEdit

I just had my additional information on the sightings of Christian on the Island beyond what MIB and Claire confirmed. I do not state that all of those sitings were MIB. I think it is perfectly appropriate to outline all of the sitings of Christian Shephard on the island because while it may or may not be him literally in spirit his image had an influence on the island, and he could had been there in spirit given some of the sightings that contradicts the Man In Black statements (with Michael on the Kahana for example). I don't see why the reports of his spectre on the island cannot be reported on his page. His image was probably second only to John Locke's image in influence on the Island. In that way I think it is justified to list how his image was used on the island in key aspects of the events of the island and the possibility that he was actually there:

"Following the crash of Oceanic 815, Christian-or a impersonator-has interacted with various survivors. His body was apparently dumped out of the plane as it broke up in flight since one of his white tennis shoes that his son Jack dressed him in for burial was seen hanging from a bamboo grove the first day of the crash ("Pilot, Part 1") It would be seen again old, dirty and weathered over three years later in the same spot as his son lay dying nearby. ("The End") His apparition was later seen by his son on the island. It would be later revealed that it was a manifestation of the The Man in Black. In December 2007 when confronted by Jack, The Man in Black would claim having used Christian's form to appear to Jack several days after the crash of Oceanic 815 ("White Rabbit"), stating that he was trying to help the survivors find water. ("The Last Recruit") He also appeared in Jacob's Cabin, first seen by Hugo sitting in a rocking chair with a Mysterious Figure. ("The Man Behind the Curtain") He would later appear to Claire in the jungle, calling himself her and Jack's father which would lead to her abandoning Aaron in Sawyer's and ultimately Kate Austin's care and following him. ("Something Nice Back Home") Later Locke would see Christian with Claire by his side in Jacob's Cabin telling him he represented Jacob and that he must move the Island and get everyone back to the island, and he must sacrifice himself to do it ("Something Nice Back Home"). Claire would later confirm that this "Christian" was The Man in Black. ("Lighthouse")

It was either The Man In Black or the actual spirit of Christian Shephard that Michael Dawson saw on the Kahana seconds before it blew up. ("There's No Place Like Home, Parts 2 & 3") Later the Man in Black would claim he cannot cross bodies of water in his smoke form and he wasn't known to have traveled to the ship in human form, making this manifestation problematic vis a vis he being The Man In Black-if he was telling the truth.("The Package"). The Spectre of Christian would later appear to Locke under the Orchid station when to tell Locke to reset the Donkey wheel on its axis to stop the island from randomly moving in time. Locke who was injured at the time asked for his help to reset the wheel, but Christian said he could not help him. Christian also confirmed Richard telling Locke that he had to die as a sacrifice to get the Castaways back on the island-and to say hello to his son for him. ("This Place Is Death")

Later after the return of the castaways to the Island about Ajira flight 316 a manifestation of Christian would greet Sun and Frank Lapidus at the Island processing Center telling them her husband Jin and her friends were in the year 1977 and also instructed her to wait for John Locke, who by that time was dead and was, unknown to everyone at the time, begin impersonated by The Man in Black ("Namaste"). This was the last time the spectre of Christian Shephard would be seen on the Island."

Either the actual spirit of Christian Shephard and/or his image used by The Man In Black was a principle and moving factor on the island. I think on that how his image was used should be accounted for on his page.--Hunter2005 15:07, June 16, 2010 (UTC)

OutlawsEdit

In the season one episode Outlaws, during the bar scene with Sawyer and Christian, I noticed that Sawyer called the bartender Slim. I was wondering if this was a reference to Of Mice and Men as John Terry (who plays Christian) plays the character of Slim in the film version, and if it would be worth mentioning in the 'Trivia' section of the article. HufflepuffJedi 16:22, July 2, 2010 (UTC)

• Indeed it would be worth mentioning in trivia. --D Toccs 11:53, July 5, 2010 (UTC)

Flash Sideways changes Edit

Why are some people changing Flash Sideways to Post Death /Afterlife? I am under the impression, we are using the creators terminology Flash Sideways unless there is specific clarification from Cuse/Lindelof, perhaps in the LOST Encyclopedia that is coming out soon. If there is no clarification, I thought we were to continue using the creators terminology. I got this impression from Plkrtn's comments on the Flash Sideways World talk page. Is this correct? --Just Sayin' JSTalk LBC LBCTalk eMail 20:19, August 27, 2010 (UTC)

Christian he is dead: guess who assumed his form? Edit

Once again faraday. It is the mirror of Locke. Faraday uses Christian as his body. That's why he keeps showing up. The scene in the Church is his last moment. He has handed his wand to WALT. The last scene in The End comes after the events of the epilogue. Recall that Ben and Hugo use the past tense. --Past recaptured 18:10, October 2, 2010 (UTC)

They didn't happen after the events of the epilogue because it wasn't real. As soon as Charlie died he would've gone straight to the flash-sideways and experienced it. They all just experienced it when they died, but together. If that makes sense. Julietfan2626 Talk Blogs 18:19, October 2, 2010 (UTC)