Disambiguation?[]
Should this articel be a disambiguation? More and more is comming out of the show in reference to cancer. We should organize a full article on the subject I will re-name it to a stub. Please vote if you agree. --Jasoncarubia 20:52, 29 October 2006 (PST)
- Yes IT should be a "stub"--Jasoncarubia 20:52, 29 October 2006 (PST)
- No I don't agree that cancer is a major theme of the story at this point. 1) Cancer is a leading cause of death in developed nations, and Lost is a story centering on loss and tragedy, so it's no more of a theme than "suicide" (which many of the minor characters die of); 2) Where are you getting that there are so many references? Diane Janssen and the x-ray are the two confirmed references; Rose is not specified as a case of cancer (though it likely is), and Sawyer's uncle is IMHO not noteworthy, as it was a plot device to show how worried he was but still didn't want to ask for help. I would say that cancer could develop into something more in the story, but that right now it isn't; what I would say is that "death and dying" are a major theme of the story. --PandoraX 19:37, 30 October 2006 (PST)
article summary[]
What do you think about the article summary?
- "In the television series Lost, cancer appears several times adding insight to character backgrounds and behaviors, and progressing plot and story-line. The mysterious "Healing properties" of the island have even been theorized to curing cancer. Some cast members of the show are survivors of cancer."--Jasoncarubia 17:11, 1 November 2006 (PST)
- Hi, Jason. The reason I deleted the extra lines was, firstly, some of it was extraneous, since all those points are mentioned in headings right below, and secondly, again, I just disagree with the amount of importance to some of the plot. I kind of try to use the KISS principle whenever possible; making the page any longer borders on making it a vanity page for a particular theory or branch of speculation. These pages should be more about recording canon than furthering theories (which are done on forums); thus, they should follow the NPOV wiki standard (neutral point of view), unless "(theory)" is specified. --PandoraX 17:18, 1 November 2006 (PST)
- How do you feel about the page electromagnetism? It is not the typical KISS format and dives into Theory from the first few. This article more than borders a theory or branch of speculation and has become AotW.--Jasoncarubia 17:24, 1 November 2006 (PST)
- I absolutely LOVE the page electromagnetism, and nominated it for AOTW. It is a very good example of KISS. There are numerous mentions of electromagnetism in Lost, but the page condenses it where necessary (it remains relatively long because it is not a forced theme, and one that people have consensus on). The theory section is delineated, and the main section doesn't contain baseless speculation. On Cancer, it is still a topic with scattered and noncoherant references, and I think you should step back from it and let it develop on its own on the show; don't take edits so personally. There are many other places to edit on lostpedia. --PandoraX 17:51, 1 November 2006 (PST)
- PS: I saw and liked your edit on that page about magnetic therapy. It's not that I don't think sickness and healing are themes of Lost; I do definitely believe that they are important. But I think Cancer is more just an branching of that general topic, and could be covered in the Healing properties page.
- I'm sorry. In no way did I intend to impress that I take edits personally. I just wanted to hear your opinion. I felt the electromagnetism page was a great article as well and agreed on the nomination. I enjoy the unique in-depth articles that distinguish lostpedia from other lost wikis. They add insight and enhance the television viewing experience, just as a commentary track would on a DVD. I think it is interesting that the producers and writers choose to use certian devices repetitivly. Death by cancer, for example, is a dramatic device used frequently in the Lost universe. Only second I am estimating to firearms (or turbine death. Poor Gary...;-)). Please keep up your edits PandoraX! Those of us like myself who can't take the time to edit more, appreciate them.--Jasoncarubia 18:13, 1 November 2006 (PST)
- Thanks, and thanks for being open minded and a good sport about it, didn't mean to make it like I was picking on you. I just didn't want to see it get out of control; I think it's a topic worth discussing personally (primarily regarding what we now know is Ben's illness), but not really as a 'theme' per se... but that's just my opinion. :) It's a great new development with Ben and Juliet's betrayel tonight, I liked this episode personally. Take care, --PandoraX 19:40, 1 November 2006 (PST)
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The part about Ben gets quite off-topic at one point: Juliet secretly betrayed Ben, by showing Jack a videotape in which she tries to convince him to purposely botch the surgery and kill him, and make it seem like an accident. She says this is because Ben is not a good man. This really has nothing to do with Ben's tumor itself. Do you agree that it should be deleted? --Limabeen 18:13, 22 January 2007 (PST)
It's gone now. It had nothing to do with cancer at all. --Blueeagleislander 21:03, 22 January 2007 (PST)
Thanks. --Limabeen 21:23, 22 January 2007 (PST)