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Shotgun[]

Can anyone confirm what type of sawed-off shotgun Caesar had?--Decepticon Rhinox 23:19, 10 August 2009 (UTC)

Spoke to?[]

Does it really matter which of the main characters Caesar (or any other character with this on their page, for that matter) has spoken to? It's really just a useless bit of trivia, and as Jimbo said, it's not really relevant. -- Sam McPherson  T  C  E  23:43, 21 February 2009 (UTC)

Nav?[]

Do we really need a Nav for Caesar? We don't even know how important a character he's going to be. Furthermore, Jack and Hurley are listed as his flashback characters, but he hasn't even appeared in a flashback, let alone had one centric to him. Also, shouldn't it be coded as a template rather than putting the code straight into the article? The same thing can be said for Ilana.  Jimbo the Tubby  talk  contributions  18:32, 22 February 2009 (UTC)

I thought exactly the same thing. He's had like, what? Two lines? For all we know he was killed in the "crash". Same goes for Ilana who hasn't even had a spoken line yet! We don't need navs for every character on the show, just the major ones. And yes, it should be a template not code on the article page.--Baker1000 18:46, 22 February 2009 (UTC)
He's likely to become a major character, though. I mean, the character got a grand one line in 316, but he also was credited as a guest star (instead of at the end as "Man #1" or something), has a name, and was revealed ahead of time in DSA. I could name other reasons, but they'd be spoilers. :P --Golden Monkey 18:59, 22 February 2009 (UTC)
That doesn't mean he'll become a major character, that's just how the casting is listed. There are many characters credited in such a way who don't have their own navs. As for other reasons, if they'd be spoilers to list then we can't make wiki decisions based on them. Wait until those factors are in play and *then* update Casear to be a major character (if that is what should come to pass).  Jimbo the Tubby  talk  contributions  03:00, 23 February 2009 (UTC)
Can we give him and Ilana navs yet? They're both alive after the crash and are obviously going to figure quite heavily in the rest of the season. LAnder 00:33, 9 March 2009 (UTC)
Just for comparison, non-main characters that get navs are characters with over 10 appearances (ex. Rousseau has 22, Christian has 17, Alpert has 16, Frank has 14, Charles Widmore) has 11 etc.). Caesar has only 4 appearances and a high possibility he is dead. Ilana has 5 and has the possibility that will be present in Season 6 too. Either way, it's too early for Ilana, and NO or too early for Caesar. --Orhan94 09:49, 10 April 2009 (UTC)

UQ[]

"Did he know Ilana prior to the flight?" - just curious, but what's the importance of this question?--Mistertrouble189 01:25, 27 February 2009 (UTC) It's like saying

  • It seems Ilana knew other passangers on the plane...--Badrobot23 22:36, 1 July 2009

Assuming that Frank landed the plane[]

I believe that it's likely that Frank also disappeared in the flash, so I don't think that any articles should claim that he fully landed the plane before it is confirmed in the show. --Hexhunter -- Deus X Machina 01:47, 1 March 2009 (UTC)

Except, we know otherwise from the last episode:
LOCKE: John. Are those your boats?
ILANA: No. They were already here. There used to be three, but the pilot and some woman took one. Didn't tell anyone, just ran off in the middle of the night.
Robert K S (talk) 05:16, 1 March 2009 (UTC)
Coulda been the copilot they thought was/were referring to as the pilot --  SacValleyDweller    talk    contribs   07:16, 1 March 2009 (UTC)

Caesar/Cesar[]

Do we know how to spell his name? The ABC release not withstanding, "Cesar" is common enough among Latin Americans (Think Cesar Chavez of migrant labor fame). We need to know his ethnicity. Is there any information from the call sheet?--Jim in Georgia Contribs Talk 14:25, 2 March 2009 (UTC)

I think the press release should be sufficient to show that it's "Caesar".  Jimbo the Tubby  talk  contributions  16:06, 2 March 2009 (UTC)

It turns out that Damon and Carlton referred to Caesar and Ilana in an email. Never mind!--Jim in Georgia Contribs Talk 04:09, 3 March 2009 (UTC)

I'm going with Caesar. Two weeks before airing, the press release says Caesar... THEN, when the episode airs... I record the captioning along with the HD. I look at closed captioning and it says Caesar ... so - when TPTB say - before - and during - the originally aired episode that the name is CAESAR... I take it as canon. –DocH my edits 05:11, 3 March 2009 (UTC)

Dead[]

Caesar is dead now, correct? --Integrated (User / Talk) 17:50, 10 April 2009 (UTC)

  • I think so... actually, I hope so. --Orhan94 18:00, 10 April 2009 (UTC)
  • Yeah I don't think anyone could survive such blast to the chest by a shotgun. Dead/Unknown.--Mistertrouble189 18:10, 10 April 2009 (UTC)
  • I hope so, too. Of course, "If the Island wants..." (sigh) If it's a question of a label, put a "red 'X'".--Jim in Georgia Contribs Talk 18:18, 10 April 2009 (UTC)

We need to remove the question "Is Caesar dead?". We saw him take a shotgun blast to the chest, without the episode presenting us with any reason to suspect he survived. Without something in the episode to suggest it, this question is speculation. jimbo_the_tubby 18:36, 10 April 2009 (UTC)

  • Good stuff. I kinda liked the character. But I also liked him dying. So.. he's dead. --Integrated (User / Talk) 18:46, 10 April 2009 (UTC)
  • What's the rush? Lost typically apparently kills people near or at the end of one episode and then the next time we might find out if it's true. Ben got shot square in the chest himself just two episodes ago lol. Probably dead though we can wait for confirmation. --Jackdavinci 19:27, 10 April 2009 (UTC)
    I don't think it's a rush so much as he appears to have been killed in this episode. If he is shown to recover next episode, we can change the article. -- Graft   talk   contributions  19:42, 10 April 2009 (UTC)
  • I think having a UQ "Is he dead?" is pretty sloppy. If he's not in the next episode I think we should assume he's a corpse. --Integrated (User / Talk) 14:03, 11 April 2009 (UTC)
  • I don' know, why would they kill him off so quickly? Remember Locke? Plus his casting call said something about a dark past and nothing like that has been shown, although it is just a casting call--Rod|talk 00:07, 13 April 2009 (UTC)

I'm actually very sceptical that Caesar has been killed off so early after being introduced. For one thing, him and Ilana were originally going to be members of the main cast, which i wish they were... I don't remember seeing blood either, not only that but we've seen elements of his character, such as his secrecy emerge, which makes me think he's survived. I think he'll probably be in the same boat as Frank, being dragged along by the other 316ers. 01lander 20:08, 13 April 2009 (UTC)

Caesar was the red herring, the suspicious one that you were meant from the outset to believe had the hidden agenda and the secret knowledge--who was either an Other or a DHARMA-ite or one of Widmore's people, or something. He was the only one who had, even up until his demise, no backstory and no stated purpose for being on the plane. He had the suspicious interaction with Jack and the suspicious-looking mug. But surprise! Caesar was just a clueless nobody, caught up in a game he wasn't equipped to play, while it was Ilana who was the one to watch out for all along.  Robert K S   tell me  02:16, 14 April 2009 (UTC)
  • As much as I love Said Taghmaoui (he was fantastic in Vantage Point, it's nothing more than speculation to say that he's anything other than dead. I'm sort of leaning toward agreement with Robert on this one. -- Sam McPherson  T  C  E  02:22, 14 April 2009 (UTC)
  • Yeah I agree with Rob there was all that pre season talk of how much Caesar and Ilana fould fit into the show and every one is weary of Caesar and all he was, was a guy trying to be a hero on the wrong island, then boom Caesars gone still a bit surprised though that and actor like Said Taghmaoui would take such a crappy role short lived role. --Czygan84 03:48, 26 April 2009 (UTC)
  • I don't know, Said Taghmaoui has had quite a few strong supporting rolls in feature films. I don't think he's dead, just on account that he's a recognizable actor and probably wouldn't sign on for such a short term role. The only way I'd say he's dead "now" is if we get a significant back story out of him in the coming episodes. Somethings definitely going on with him though, I'm pretty certain we've been duped.-- Roobydo  talk  contribs  04:28, 26 April 2009 (UTC)
  • D & C sent one email to the new Dharma recruits about Caesar and Ilana. I don't remember there being a lot of talk. D & C referred to Caesar's dark past. His being dead doesn't mean there isn't a back story about what he did for whomever. He could still influence the story.--Jim in Georgia Contribs Talk 14:57, 26 April 2009 (UTC)
  • I think the reason they killed him was to emphasise that even if a character is very cool, very interesting, with a dark past, they are still just as vulnerable as everyone else. I liked the way they did it, just to remind us that stakes are very high, anyone can die at any time. And by killing a character we all expected to be in the show for much longer it emphasises that even more - we find it shocking. --Integrated (User / Talk) 22:14, 12 May 2009 (UTC)

Spoiler[]

Isn't the "season six" note in trivia sort of a spoiler? --Orhan94 08:56, 31 August 2009 (UTC)

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