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Why do we need so many pictures of the same thing? --skks 15:00, 27 March 2006 (PST)

I like pictures. I think 2 pictures are screencaps of the map, both showing only a part of it until somone uploaded a full map that is not a screenshot - I dont know where it is from. --aurora glacialis 15:10, 27 March 2006 (PST)

There's the map, the map with a hand, the map with two hands, the maker of the map etc. Just makes the page a bit heavy, I'd trim the 'fat' a little... then again I'm too lazy to do it myself. :) --skks 23:39, 27 March 2006 (PST)

The full page map is originally from ABCmedianet.com [1] Doesn't get much more reliable than that. I think that one and one screen capture of the map would be plenty. --BigSteve777 05:44, 28 March 2006 (PST)

I like having both maps - even though they're not the same map. But shouldn't the balloon shot go with a page for the balloon along with those shots of the basket?

I'm sure that there's partially rubbed out writing on Henry's map. At about the time Sayid is pointing at the map, the word 'One' is visible. I don't see this on the 'official' map, so it's probably not important. --Draic 06:53, 2 May 2006 (PDT)

I like the maps too, and they provide interesting comparisons to the blast door map, such as a river north of the Swan station on both maps --Nickb123 (Talk) 04:27, 12 July 2006 (PDT)


Here's an oddity- In the image where sayid holds the map, you can see part of the word "Karamazov", mirrored, on the other side of the paper. The A's and the O's are symmetrical, and Z turns into S when it's mirrored. These letters spell out Osama. --AlienChickenPie 12:04, 22 July 2006 (PDT)

Rename for capitalization[]

  • This is not a proper noun. Article title should be capitalized: Henry Gale's map. In support, see precedence of other articles in Lostpedia, as well as capitalization rules for article titles of any encyclopedia. -- Contrib¯ _Santa_ ¯  Talk 11:09, 8 October 2006 (PDT)
    • Agreed, but should it be renamed to Ben's map instead? I think all references to Fenry should be tied to Ben, not the pseudonym. --Jajasoon 12:05, 14 October 2006 (PDT)

Through the looking glass map[]

Hey can we have an article for the map that Ben had during "Through the looking glass"?--Lewis-Talk-Contribs 06:42, 25 May 2007 (PDT)

Rename to Ben's maps[]

  • If the article is going to be about multiple maps, the title should be changed accordingly. Roger Workman 08:48, 25 May 2007 (PDT)
  • Agree - Yep, logical, go for it.--Lewis-Talk-Contribs 10:43, 25 May 2007 (PDT)
  • Agree - I was about to ask the smae thing --   Dee4leeds  talk  contribs  all  02:21, 26 May 2007 (PDT)
  • Agree - Definitely.
  • Agree - Good idea. --Magnet 18:01, 27 May 2007 (PDT)
  • Agree - Why not? --Berethor222 18:10, 28 May 2007 (PDT)
  • How about renaming it to Ben's map to Henry Gail's Balloon. This would be more accurate.CastorPollock 23:25, 2 February 2008 (PST)

observations on the radio tower map[]

  • The Radio Tower map isn't consistant with Rousseau's map at all. The coastlines as shown don't match anything on Rousseau's map. The inclusion of the Barracks means the inconsistancy can't be fixed as a matter of scale


  • The distances on the Radio Tower map seem completely wrong.
    • The Pearl is closer to the Barracks than the beach somehow. That doesn't match the observed travel distances in the show at all.
    • If Pascal Flats is north of the Barracks, that means John Locke hauled his father's dead body a further distance than the multi-day journey across the Island to the Barracks.
    • It makes sense if Rousseau's map is set to a different scale to Ben's map. Notice that Ben's map only shows a small section of the island. It also only shows a few key locations that have to do with the episode itself. There is one place that fits pretty good for being the correct locataion of Rousseau's map, if you flip Rousseau's map 180 degrees so that the crater is "North". In fact there is a circle with a pyramid cross in it, in the location where the Tower would be. Biggest question is why is the pearl marked on the map and not the flame. The flame is the closest hatch to the Barracks according to the cabling map.CastorPollock 23:21, 2 February 2008 (PST)

I would suggest disregarding the position of Barracks on the map and treating it as an error. Dharmatel4 21:07, 2 June 2007 (PDT)

Why is South to the top? Also, why does Ben think a straightedge will give him an adequate measure where he will meet the Losties? The island is far from flat and even. - GoodRom 16:03, 7 June 2007 (PDT)

Did you see south to the top on the map? Or is this based on Ben's comments?
Using a straightedge will kind-of work if both routes are equally hilly or uneven. There is another question about why he is using such an old low-quality map given that we have seen modern full countour maps done by DHARMA. Dharmatel4 13:50, 9 June 2007 (PDT)
Combining Ben's map with the Dharma Cabling map strongly suggests that the top of Ben's map (the camp) is North and the Barracks/Pascal Flats is to the south. Looking again, I think Ben's map is consistant with Rousseau's. The distances still make no sense though. Dharmatel4 14:23, 10 November 2007 (PST)

I was under the impression that the radio tower was to the east or north east of the beach camp. Considering the blast door map's notation on the location of the black rock is correct. I also thought the Barracks was on the western side of the island near the coast. I believe this because of the season 3 premiere which showed the relative distances and locations of the barracks, tail, and middle section crash sites. In the premiere it show the Barracks in a valley very close to that large cove on the western coast. Although it could be on the eastern range and those hills we saw blocking the way to the coast could be a lower area of the western range, but I doubt it. Some of you would say the survivors landed to the north not the south side of the island. But if you look at rousseau's map you would have to flip the map over to get the plane's crash trajectory to line up right with the what is on the ben's map, and even then it would 't make sense to what we've seen. In summary, I believe the radio tower to be to the east not the west side of the island, the Barracks to the west but on the eastern side of those mountains, and Ben's map to be, flawed in several ways, and not as trustworthy as some of the other maps by other characters and/or DHARMA's. --The Cartographer 12:50, 13 March 2008 (PDT)

That doesn't work for any number of reasons. First, we have no reason to trust the blast door map over any other map. Second, we have the DHARMA cabling map which shows a) the barracks, b) the flame and c) where north is. The Dharma cabling map can be overlayed on the radio tower map consistantly. We also know where north is on Rousseau's map and trajectory of the plane is exactly correct. Barracks to the west of the plane moving north. Tail section falling to the east and plane continuing on to the north. Everything lines up correctly except for some terrain features in the upper right of the radio tower map which do not match rousseau's map. The season three opener can't be taken as geographically authoratative because the constructed shot matches the geography of the island no more than the inserted long shorts of the barracks match the layout of the barracks. Dharmatel4




The Barracks is North/North-West of the camp, so on Ben's map that makes the top pointing towards the South. --Hugo815 13:48, 13 March 2008 (PDT)
The Barracks is sometimes said to be north of the camp and other times said to be south of the camp. The show has been repeatedly inconsistant on this point. Dharmatel4 20:23, 20 March 2008 (PDT)

The Barracks is to the north, and it's as simple as that. --The Cartographer 20:46, 20 March 2008 (PDT)

How is it that simple? How do you explain the apparent contradictions? --Jackdavinci 04:14, 21 March 2008 (PDT)

The Temple map?[]

Should Ben's map to the Temple be added here as well?--The Cartographer 19:36, 20 March 2008 (PDT)

Yep. What's interesting is that his Temple map bears a striking similarity to Daniel's map to the Tempest. Robert K S (talk) 19:43, 20 March 2008 (PDT)
I noticed that too. Very Lord of the Ringsish. --The Cartographer 20:14, 20 March 2008 (PDT)
I'm willing to bet the same crew member draws all the map props. --Xbenlinusx 20:25, 20 March 2008 (PDT)
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