Contents 1 Source of Nickname? 2 Location on the Island? 3 Renaming 4 Renaming 5 Too Many Nicknames? 6 Two Islands 7 List of nicknames... 8 The Pine Tree... or Araucaria 9 "Ben calls it Home" 10 Merging with Barracks 11 Territory 12 Round 2: Merging with Barracks

Source of Nickname?Edit

I like Otherville, it will do fine until we know the REAL name of the town. -- Iron Man  Send a message  View contributions  12:33, 13 October 2006 (PDT)

Seems to me that this might be the Barracks reachable from the Pala Ferry. --User:Awiggins 13:30 Oct 13, 2006 (EST)

I think it should be called Jain Green. Or is that too clever? ;) --User:Joeymac 15:00, October 7th 2006 (GMT)

who gave it this nickname? Why not Lostyria Lane?--Turniphead Danny 22:58, 4 October 2006 (PDT)

I nominate "Otherville" instead...

Let's please not have 300 pages for everyone's separate names for them. Someone already has a page called Others' Suburb (which, while nice, is also a little inaccurate, since a suburb is defined by proximity and development next to a true city). I do like Utopiaville personally, but I want to go with the one people agree on, and merge from there. --PandoraX 22:51, 4 October 2006 (PDT)

Oh, and please sign your comments on discussion pages, Chris & Turniphead. Three ~'s --PandoraX 22:51, 4 October 2006 (PDT)

Utopiaville seems the most apt to me, considering Dharma and Hanso's Utopian stuff that we know has been refered to. I think.--NotARedHerring 23:03, 4 October 2006 (PDT)

I like Utopiaville. I say keep it. --CrystalSkull 23:05, 4 October 2006 (PDT)

• I think I should mention that, across a lot of the fandom it is already referred to as "Otherville"....just saying....--Sauron18 23:29, 4 October 2006 (PDT)

• • I like Otherville better too Utopiaville sounds silly. Bastionkane

Otherville sounds silly.... you know the Others don't refer to themselves as the others ;) --CorrosionX 07:45, 5 October 2006 (PDT)

Otherville, because I'm sure someone said "we'll be visiting otherville in Season 3", and we might as well use the same nickname as the producers, eh. -Chris^[dt7] 09:39, 5 October 2006 (PDT)

• Chris, if you are fairly certain of the producer reference, then I swing my vote to Otherville. --PandoraX 19:17, 5 October 2006 (PDT)

I heard Utopiaville too.--CaptainInsano 19:23, 5 October 2006 (PDT)

I suggested "Others' Suburb". On the odd chance it matters, if Otherville is the name the producers use, fine by me. Name reminds me of Who-ville a bit, so, all in all it works. Much better than utopiaville--Bernini 10:39, 5 October 2006 (PDT)

• We could call it "Pleasantville" --Doc 11:06, 5 October 2006 (PDT)

• Or Village --Hi5
• I'm not crazy about the nickname, it just seems like it ended up with the name from whoever created a page first. If a common nickname emerges in the fan community or in the podcast, I say go with it, but in the meantime I'd recommend going with something descriptive like Others Village (and point any nicknames to it, there will likely be several). The point of Lostpedia is to provide information, not create it. --Minderbinder 12:37, 5 October 2006 (PDT)

• We usually don't go by the "first to name it rule"... we often change names here (see Ben or Rachel Blake for instances of huge debates and eventual change) based on community consensus. But yeah, I agree on not creating too many fan names whenever possible, and that's been the overall consensus in the past as well. --PandoraX 19:19, 5 October 2006 (PDT)

• Let's just call it "Other Village", which is what it technically is. That way we can spare ourselves nicknames and have something that, despite being unofficial, is a real term. --Sauron18 14:37, 5 October 2006 (PDT)
  • So, anyone think we should change it to "Other Village" or some other clearly arbitrary term that is, by dissociation, not uncanon like nicknames such as "Utopiaville" and "Otherville"?--Sauron18 19:10, 5 October 2006 (PDT)
    • I'd vote for that. If a producer has publically used a nickname for it, we should probably have a link/reference before changing to it. --Minderbinder 06:52, 6 October 2006 (PDT)
    • I vote for Other Village (or Settlement). If the producers have come up with a nickname then let's use that but only if we're sure--Tricksterson 09:30, 6 October 2006 (PDT)
    • Other Village sounds like the best option instead of a nickname, until the settlement gets a real name (if it does). --Señor Eko 06:24, 7 October 2006 (PDT)

Location on the Island?Edit

While Ben told Ethen and Goodwin to "run" to the crash sites, that might have been just a figure of speech (like "I'm going to run to the store"). Didn't he say though that one or both of them could be there in 2 hours (not sure if I remember it right)? Considering that it took the Losties days to cross the island, then that would imply some other method of transportation. --Doc 07:05, 5 October 2006 (PDT)

• "During the single wide shot establishing the location of village, it is revealed to be located inside the crater that Rousseau had noted on her map."

I don't know if that can be stated as fact just yet , the image is debatable.

• I agree. I will move it to the theory section. Chaos pudding 11:32, 5 October 2006 (PDT)

• I agree, it looks like Otherville is in a crater, and there is a crater on the southern side of the Maps Sayid has, but this runs completely counter to island maps posted on the Blackrock fan page. http://www.blackrock.nl/content/view/12/33/ Not that those maps are definitively correct. It is just interesting to me that no one seems sure where on the island anything actually is. A better view of the maps Sayid is writing on may clear some of it up, but I'm guessing we will not be getting that for quite a while.--ASEO 12:23, 16 October 2006 (PDT)

Goodwin could be there in one hour.--CaptainInsano 11:33, 5 October 2006 (PDT)

The blast door map talks about subterranean conduits. One can only assume this would be Goodwin and Ethan's mode of transportation to get to the flight survivors. After looking at the large scale shot of the island and the crash, it doesn't seem possible to get to the Tail section on foot in one hour.

• Ethan and Goodwin obviously know the island far better than the Losties, they would know how to reach the destinations much much quicker than anyone else, maybe they were trained for these situations? --Scorpiusdiamond 03:03, 7 October 2006 (PDT)

During a lengthy debate on The Fuselage forum, it was generally concluded that despite initial appearances, Otherville cannot be in the crater. For one, the Others' area of operations are located in the North of the island from multiple references, including The Hunting Party. Secondly, there are no tall mountains such as those encircling Otherville in that part of the island. The crater just seems to be sitting there by itself, perhaps in forested terrain or a sandy area near the beach. Finally, the crater is pretty close to the fuselage crash site, but the Others are located much more closely where the Tailies crashed (you can see the tail section crashing into the water near Othersville, whilst the fuselage goes down right on the other side of the island. This makes is more likely that Othersville is located in an elevated, plateau-like area amidst the mountains at the northern end of the island. The bay seen on the right hand side in the longshot is the bay seen at the north-western end of the island on the maps, and in that longshow we are looking south-west towards the tail section crash area. This also makes more sense since the plane had turned around from its south-to-north flight path towards LA before it crashed, and this supports the idea of the plane coming from north of the island.--Werthead 08:46, 26 October 2006 (PDT)

Renaming Edit

It seems that Otherville is the current name being used for the community. Is a name change in order? -- Plkrtn  talk  contribs  email  18:30, 6 October 2006 (PDT)

• I say yes. That seems to be the name that Michael Emerson used for it in his TV Guide interview.JoserKyind 18:52, 6 October 2006 (PDT)
• Yes. Otherville is the right name to use here. --Aero*Zeppelin 18:56, 6 October 2006 (PDT)
• Yes. most succinct and identifiable name for the community. lostyeria lane is witty but not as prevalent --kaini. 19:04, 6 October 2006 (PDT)
• Yes agree with above. --Jajasoon 19:41, 6 October 2006 (PDT)
• Yes I joined Lostpedia to vote Yes on this motion. Brother 19:53, 6 October 2006 (PDT)
• Yes - Go for it ohmyn0
• Yes Emerson definitely used it...the Lost community uses it...lets use it! --Kivipat
• Yes Do it! --TimDM85 (Talk) 22:40, 6 October 2006 (PDT)
• Yes Stick with what the community uses Paladine 23:54, 6 October 2006 (PDT)
• Yes Keep it until we know more about it seeing as it's been called that by fans and creators, it's probably the best solution --Scorpiusdiamond 03:01, 7 October 2006 (PDT)

Renaming Edit

It should be called Othersville. --SilvaStorm

Yes or Redirect : It does seem to be the name people are using now. -- Plkrtn  talk  contribs  email  03:02, 13 October 2006 (PDT)

No At least not yet. This page was just renamed, I think it makes sense to wait a bit and see if a consensus develops or if the show or creators provide an "official" name. I added a redirect from Othersville since it is getting some use now (mention in EW magazine article). --Minderbinder 06:28, 13 October 2006 (PDT)

Yes : Othersville is grammatically correct and sounds better. Otherville does not make sense as there is more than one "other" and they are known as "others". It should be the plural Othersville.

Yes : Othersville sounds better and is gramatically correct.-- Zaratrusta

No We call it "Otherville" because it is the name the community uses for it. If we were to rename just for correctness then it would be called by something that is not a nickname (Other Village, etc..) --Sauron18 13:10, 13 October 2006 (PDT)

No I don't think Othersville is grammatically better, and sounds worse too. --Jajasoon 20:28, 13 October 2006 (PDT)

Yes: Sounds worse? Are you kidding? --SilvaStorm

No I think that Otherville sounds much better --MitchellA

RESULT: I'm creating a redirect for Othersville to Otherville. -- Plkrtn  talk  contribs  email  04:46, 14 October 2006 (PDT)

• Decision's been made (that I agree with, but I just wanted to correct the above... Othersville would NOT be grammatically correct anyway. You do not pluralize descriptive prefixes in proper names. --PandoraX 14:59, 11 February 2007 (PST)

Too Many Nicknames?Edit

Am I the only one who feels there are too many nicknames listed, most of them I don't even think are used by anyone. --Sauron18 12:31, 22 October 2006 (PDT)

I most definately agree. There are only several nicknames I hear bouncing around--mostly the same 3 or 4. Not 17. Stevemarks 00:07, 4 November 2006 (PST)

Two Islands Edit

So now we know there are two islands...interestingly, someone theorized a couple weeks ago that otherville was on a separate island. The two islands part turned out to be right...but Otherville is on the main island, right? I assume the second island is smaller and probably doesn't have much more than the Hydra? --Minderbinder 06:17, 26 October 2006 (PDT)

I don't think it's certain yet that Otherville is in the same general location as the Hydra. The Hydra is certainly on a separate island though. --Doc 06:25, 26 October 2006 (PDT)

The Hydra Island is quite small if it's only twice the size of Alcatraz. The longshot in 301 showing Otherville and the tail section crash site would swallow up an island twice the size of Alcatraz several times over, so Otherville is definitely on the main island itself.--Werthead 08:48, 26 October 2006 (PDT)

Now that I've seen an aerial photo of Alcatraz [[1]] it seems certain to me that Otherville is on the main island. --Minderbinder 09:00, 26 October 2006 (PDT)

But maybe the Others were on Hydra island, in Otherville, watching the plane crash onto the main island... (ie, we saw a great distance between Otherville and the plane and assumed that the distance was land, but that distance may be the channel between the two islands)... --Andyroo316 00:21, 31 October 2006 (PST)

I don't see how Otherville could be on the smaller island since the wide shot shows it's on an island WAY bigger than Alcatraz. --Minderbinder 06:23, 31 October 2006 (PST)

Confirmation from the producers that Otherville isn't on the Hydra Island: "That island isn't necessarily where [the Others] live. It's not necessarily the same place where we saw those guys in the beginning of the teaser of the season premiere this year. I think that would be a very reasonable explanation as to how Goodwin and Ethan could run from the Others' home camp to the crash site [in about one hour." - Ask Ausellio@ TVGuide.com--Werthead 04:12, 9 November 2006 (PST)

Besides, Ben tells Ethan and Goodwin to run to the crash sites. Not likely if they were on the seperate island.--Tricksterson 09:01, 9 November 2006 (PST)

List of nicknames... Edit

I have never heard of nearly all of these nicknames. Clever names people made up just for the article should not be there. The list contributes no info to the article. It makes it look longer, but contentless. I think the "Other nicknames" should be deleted, possibly leaving 3 or so. But I am for deleting the whole section. --Sloths 17:33, 19 November 2006 (PST)

The Pine Tree... or Araucaria Edit

The tree in the first episode of third season (in Otherville) could be [Araucaria] a coniferous plant endemic in Australia, New Guinea and other tropical regions. I suggest to change the Trivia on the article page. --Digicon 10:29, 12 December 2006 (PST)

"Ben calls it Home"Edit

After watching "Stranger in a Strange Land", and thinking about Juliet's line, I'm thinking this is the most official name we're going to get for this place, and the only one used on the show by the people who live there, so I propose that we rename the article as "Home" or something of the sort. --Sauron18 23:22, 21 February 2007 (PST)

Too nonspecific, i think. Home can mean a lot of things. Otherville describes it sufficiently until they actually name it, or until it turns out that HOME is an acronym for Heuristic Organismic Medical Education, or something.--Ex-Pope Cardinal Richard Corey 23:45, 21 February 2007 (PST)

Well "Otherville" is a fan nickname, and so far "Home" is the only name we've seen for it, and it's been said quite a few times. Still, I do understand what you mean, but I still feel that we need to take the closest official names when we get them since most names here are conjectural. It may be vague in some ways, but "Home (Others)" seems better to me than "Otherville". --Sauron18 23:48, 21 February 2007 (PST)

Merging with Barracks Edit

While I think it's very likely that Otherville and the Barracks are one and the same, we should wait until next week to do this merge since it's based on an assumption that Sayid is right.    Jabberwock    talk    contribs    email   - 20:17, 7 March 2007 (PST)

• Agreed, Jabr. I was just about to see if this was a theory under Barracks yet, when I read this :) Best to stay on the safe side until confirmed, but it certainly sounds like it. --PandoraX 20:20, 7 March 2007 (PST)

• I'm not 100% convinced that the Barracks and Otherville are the same. The Pearl Orientation video mentions that a boat was to be taken from the Pala Ferry to the Barracks. If the Barracks really are Otherville, what is the point of taking a boat there? Or moreover, how would you take a boat there, seeing as how it's in a crater? --Fezir 20:21, 7 March 2007 (PST)
  • Maybe the boat takes you around the alarm/fence/security system seen in the preview for the next episode? --Pedxing 20:28, 7 March 2007 (PST)

Yea maybe we should merge now.--Nokia (Talk) (Email) (Contribs) 20:23, 7 March 2007 (PST)

Don't merge it until we are completley sure it is the barracks, people will get confused if we did it at a point where we arn't surtain...--Jabadibah 02:40, 8 March 2007 (PST)

I agree with wyhat the person above me says. - until we are certain tyen lets not be too hasty

What's to lose waiting a few days? No point blindly rushing ahead. Princess Dharma (banned)

No: Wait until "Par Avion" to merge (if it answers questions about it). Until then I think the merging should be put on hold for reasons stated above. -- Iron Man  Send a message  View contributions  11:08, 8 March 2007 (PST)

Not yet till we find out is it really barracks. User:Jakovexc0

Not Yet I'm 100 percent sure that it's the same thing, but we must not assume things. --Mr. Crabby (Talk) 14:00, 9 March 2007 (PST)

Not Yet They Are they same but wait till we see them or Jack there.—The preceding unsigned comment was added by Project X 23 (talk • contribs) 21:33, March 9, 2007.

Merge Mikhail referred to it as the barracks. They are obviously one in the same.--KeriCanFly 20:12, 14 March 2007 (PDT)

Merge Tongight's episode confirmed that they are the same. ShadowUltra 20:28, 14 March 2007 (PDT)

Territory Edit

During Enter 77, in a conversation among the themselves the others use the term "the territory" (We will not let them...get into the territory). I dont think its mentioned anywhere currently in the articles but it would seem related to Otherville. Dharmatel4 08:38, 9 March 2007 (PST)

Round 2: Merging with Barracks Edit

Now, after "Par Avion", can we merge the two articles?  ODK Talk   Sandbox 20:36, 14 March 2007 (PDT)

Yes this definitely needs to happen. I'll copy the material, but someone then the community can update the article.    Jabberwock    talk    contribs    email   - 20:58, 14 March 2007 (PDT)