Contents 1 The Real Author 2 Date Published 3 The Book Universe 4 Audio Sample Of Bad Twin 5 Hanso Foundation Newspaper Ad attacking "Bad Twin" 6 moved from top 7 Factual References 8 port crash date in book 9 Characters vs. Fictional Characters 10 Misc Name Information 11 Part of The Lost Experience? 12 The Most Horribly Written Book in the History of Bad Books 13 Harry Widmore 14 Where is the book summary 15 More Paul Artisan novels? 16 i'm curious. 17 Possible Parallel?

The Real Author Edit

I've read in the past that authors who hide behind their pen names have been discovered using Library of Congress records. Does anyone have any insight into how this process works so that we may discover the actual author of Bad Twin? There's no argument that the book is canon, at least in the way that the book exists in the Lost universe... But I wonder if the real author would shed some light on the book itself? --Carl

I don't know why we'd have to find a "actual" author....I'm sure it's just someone who wrote it that's attached to the show.--Bremerton 10:39, 3 May 2006 (PDT)

From the sounds of it, the writing of this book was farmed out. If it was done as a ghostwriting project or a straight payment for services, the name of the "author" would not have to be anywhere, since the show owns all rights to the book. --Litany42 08:33, 15 November 2007 (PST)

Date Published Edit

The article says the book WAS published in May 2006?

Well I guess you use the past tense because from June 2006 -> beyond, you'd say "was published".--Bremerton 10:39, 3 May 2006 (PDT)

Anything after publishing date is 'was'. LOSTonthisdarnisland 00:56, 11 May 2006 (PDT)

The Book Universe Edit

So here's something I don't really understand. If "Gary Troup" wrote the book and he is part of the Lost universe (Lostiverse?) and I am assuming the book is a fictional story...are we to just assume that he used "real life companies" (real to the Lost Universe) like Widmore and Hanso? Would it be the equivalent of, say, someone setting a detective story within the Proctor and Gamble company? Does this make sense? If it's a fictional book set in the Lost universe, then how can Hanso/Widmore/Paik be mentioned? If the book IS fiction, then could this lend weight to the theory that thoughts become real on the island, i.e. Gary Troup's fictional stories have come to life. Any thoughts?--Bremerton 10:39, 3 May 2006 (PDT)

Consider Jennifer Government by Max Barry - clearly a fection, but numerous real-life companies are mentioned. The main villains of the piece are Nike. There are other examples, but this s the most obvious to come to mind. There's no law stating that fictions can't include real companies or people. --Wintermute 13:07, 10 July 2006 (PDT)

I haven't read the book, but judging from the information I HAVE read on it and the information that's readily available, I wouldn't rule out the Bad Twin story to be a sort of parallel to what's happening on the island. But an exact "fiction-come-to-life"?? Doesn't seem so...

--Innocencewithonus 00:27, 5 January 2007 (PST)

Audio Sample Of Bad Twin Edit

I haven't seen this mentioned, but there is an audio sample of "Bad Twin" here http://www.audible.com/adbl/entry/offers/productPromo2.jsp?BV_SessionID=@@@@0651586068.1146754147@@@@&BV_EngineID=cccladdhjhdmkfkcefecekjdffidffm.0&productID=BK_TIME_000455 which can be found by following the link from http://www.garytroup.net/buy.php There is mention of a Sally Handler caught for insurance fraud. I'm posting it here because my wiki editing skills are minimal, but I wanted to give a heads up. -drizjr 08:24, 4 May 2006 (PDT)

It's an audio preview of Chapter 1 of Bad Twin. LOSTonthisdarnisland 00:54, 11 May 2006 (PDT)

Hanso Foundation Newspaper Ad attacking "Bad Twin" Edit

I have posted the ad that the Hanso Foundation Placed attacking "Bad Twin" here. I don't know if this is the right article to place it. It is attacking the Bad Twin, but it is not related to the Hanso Foundation site. Please feel free to move it if you think there is a better place to place it -- Chatake 13:58, 9 May 2006 (PDT)

Chatake, where is "here"? Thanks! Jengod 00:25, 11 May 2006 (PDT)

Sorry..."here" is this Article. -- Chatake 13:08, 12 May 2006 (PDT)

In the most recent official Lost podcast, the producers go out of thier way to point out about the Hanso Foundation. Stating how they wanted to tie a bit of real life with this story, but now they are getting letters and phone calls from this "real" group in Sweeden, asking to cease thier use of Hanso. Quite interesting to see how the PodCast is also being used as part of the mis-information craze like the newspaper ad. --Phil 09:54, 22 May 2006 (PDT)

moved from topEdit

I used www.acronymfinder.com to look up HELIOS. All of the results contain a link to Amazon.com. I suspect that the fact that the original editor found Lost DVDs in their results is due to the fact that that's what they've recently searched for or purchased there. I think it's more than "tenuous". -unsigned-

I've cleaned this article up a bit, including the removal of the acronym information that is, indeed, tenuous. -- LOSTonthisdarnisland 11:11, 14 May 2006 (PDT)

Factual ReferencesEdit

Any references in this book to entities that are a part of Lost and not to the real world are not factual or real. I've reworded this section to put them back into the world of fiction... --Xsg 16:34, 21 May 2006 (PDT)

I think eventually we need to have a subsection for 'real' characters as well. While characters such as Alexander Widmore and Clifford Widmore have not yet been mentioned on the show, and are thus presumed fictional, there are a handful of 'real' characters mentioned in the book. Thomas Mittlewerk and Alvar Hanso are both mentioned in the book, as well as the TV Show. Additionally, there's some speculation that some of the fictional characters may refer to other 'real' Lost characters. That may become an issue in the future. For now though, how would everyone like to categorize those characters which are 'real' in the Lost universe, but also mentioned in the 'fictional' book? Gatekeeper 07:35, 22 May 2006 (PDT)

Indeed, we can't be sure that they are in fact metafictional. We've already seen some Widmores in the show and we might see the ones from Bad Twin as well. Ausir 07:13, 25 May 2006 (PDT)

Well, for now I think they need to be categorized as metafictional until proven otherwise. My bigger concern is how will we handle it if certains aspects of their character are derived from real-life Widmores, even if they themselves are not 100% real? I'm starting to get a headache with some of the multiple name issues in the show and the possibility that these metafictional characters reference other characters... GateKeeper 07:16, 25 May 2006 (PDT)

Okay, I took a stab at re-arranging the lost-related corps/characters and meta-fictional characters sections. Hopefully this will make this a bit clear. We may end up having to move some of the meta-fictional characters if they make an appearance in the TV show, but for now this seems like the best way to handle it. I'm open to other suggestions of course! GateKeeper 07:21, 25 May 2006 (PDT)

Got some idea that the fact of that the book exist and it's name was mentioned during the show may be some hint to Nemesis. Can he be Jacob's twin? And if he is and he wanted to kill Jacob we can assume that this twin is pretty bad!--Dimonium 11:25, September 18, 2009 (UTC)

port crash date in book Edit

I don't know who else has real the book but about 50 or 6 pages from the end there is a reference to the date (the auther may have made this up off te top of his head) November somthing, 2004. after the crash, it's kinda funny.        talk contribs                   13:04, 22 May 2006 (PDT)

Characters vs. Fictional Characters Edit

The page now has two sections with a good deal of overlap. It seems we should have a 'Characters' section for characters who appear elsewhere in the Lost universe, and 'metafictional characters' for those appearing only in Bad Twin. Opinions? Gatekeeper 13:33, 22 May 2006 (PDT)

Misc Name Information Edit

Some interesing info for the name "Thomas" THOMAS

Gender: Masculine

Usage: English, French, German, Dutch, Scandinavian, Biblical

Pronounced: TAHM-as (English), TOM-as (English), to-MA (French), TOM-ahs (German) [key] Greek form of the Aramaic name Te'oma which meant "twin". In the New Testament he was the apostle who doubted the resurrected Jesus. According to tradition he was martyred in India. Famous bearers of this name include philosopher and theologian Saint Thomas Aquinas, philosopher Thomas Hobbes, inventor Thomas Edison, American president Thomas Jefferson, and novelist Thomas Hardy. Rxhector 22:44, 28 May 2006 (PDT)

Part of The Lost Experience? Edit

Is this novel truly part of The Lost Experience? I can see the answer to this question going both ways, so I'd like to hear other peoples' takes on the issue. —XSG 00:50, 30 May 2006 (PDT)

I'd definitely say yes. The Hanso Foundation website has had several references to Bad Twin, instructing us not the believe it's 'lies.' Similarly, there were ads in many major newspapers nation wide purchased by the Hanso Foundation decrying the slander within the pages of Bad Twin. There's enough info to link it to the experience, but how it fits it remains part of the mystery for the time being. GateKeeper 07:28, 30 May 2006 (PDT)

The only snippet I read that seemed related to the game was the conversation between Sr. Widmore and his "good" son, indicating that they respected Alvar Hanso a great deal more than Thomas Mittelwerk, who seemed to be running the show now. I do hope they don't make us read anymore books like this. Half the book was references to other, much better, pieces of literature; including a better detective novel!!--Beardog4314

The Most Horribly Written Book in the History of Bad Books Edit

Can anyone say 'Jonathan Livingston Seagull'? Bejeebus this book is the most malignant putrid piece of shite I've had the unfortunate occurance of reading. However I think there are a lot of clues in the book that our detective misconstrued due to the fact that HE WAS DISTRACTED BY THE THOUGHT OF FUCKING EVERY FEMALE CHARACTER, and the other major factor being that he could not piece together any sort of hypothesis without his good friend. * End Rant* Would anyone like to join with me in collecting all of the different occurances with the Widmore brothers (separate of the detectives assumpotions) to make our own theory?

Cheers! --Jess angell 19:35, 3 June 2006 (PDT)

I just finished this book and i have to agree with jess angell, the book is terribly written but i do think this was conscious. I think is is meant to be having a go off of “The Da Vinci Code” and how mindless the writing is in that. If you took time out to read that and the other book “Demons and Angels” you'd understand how formulaic Dan Brown's style is. My Feeling is that the producers of Lost, tongue in cheek, are trying to have a go off the “Da Vinci Code” with all the nonsense about how this book is true given that absolutely none of “Bad Twin” is, Dan Brown prefaced his book with something similar but neglected to go out of his way to point out where the truth stopped and fiction begun. As Leonard Nimoy once said (during one of his simpson gigs) this story is true, And by true I mean false. It's all lies. But they're entertaining lies. And in the end, isn't that the truth? The answer is "no". Temple 00:36, 17 June 2006 (PDT)

Bought it today -bit late I know but after reading this not looking forward to reading the actual thing. Gracielou01

Harry WidmoreEdit

There's an article on a Harry Widmore but no-one has heard of him, and we are debating its existence at all. Having not read the book yet, I ask if there is any reference to this character at all??? --Nickb123 12:09, 17 June 2006 (PDT)

Where is the book summaryEdit

Is there any reason why there isn't a decent summary of the book yet. Usually within a few days of a TV episode release there would be a write up but yet there is nothing here of substance after what a month, have i missed something? Temple 04:47, 22 June 2006 (PDT)

More Paul Artisan novels? Edit

I don't know about you guys, but I sure would like to read more Artisan novels, if they'd ever consider printing them. Mysteriously find a bunch of unpublished novels locked away somewhere in Troup's house, or something. I'd definetly buy those.

i'm curious. Edit

this is a real book, right? i mean, i can go to amazon or something and pick it up? dposse 09:23, 4 July 2006 (PDT)

Yep. Here. --Wintermute 13:12, 10 July 2006 (PDT)

thanks. dposse 16:31, 10 July 2006 (PDT)

Possible Parallel? Edit

Alright... so, I haven't read the book, but I HAVE been reading up on the characters and the story. And the question I pose is this: is it possible that the book parallels [at least] certain characters on the island? Granted, not all the relationships between the characters in the book and the show MUST be the same, but I see VERY similar characters happening. So am I just crazy?? Because [and I said this earlier in the page] I think Sawyer and Jack make good matches for the two twins, while Christian seems a fair gamble for the father of the twins. Haven't read other character synopses, but I'm planning to. Anyway, let me know if my theory is bunk. Thanks! --Innocencewithonus 00:32, 5 January 2007 (PST)

• This is a good question. Having read it and thinking about this, I really can't see it at all, sorry. There are mild similarities I guess, like Zander (Alexander W.) is more of a wild, devil-may care type, vs. the more straight-laced Clifford (--Sawyer vs. Jack?), however, this would be a stretch, because the storylines and roles are otherwise totally different. It was a good thought, though. --PandoraX 05:18, 5 January 2007 (PST)