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[opening Lost theme]

Kris White: Welcome to the Official Lost Podcast. While it's been a few weeks since our last new podcast, for the cast and crew of Lost, it's been no vacation because now we're moving into the final stretch of Season 2. That's right, the next three weeks are all new episodes leading up to the two hour season finale. All I can say is woo-hoo or yipee or whatever show of excitement you prefer. In any case, in this podcast we are once again joined by executive producers Damon Lindelof and Carlton Cuse. Though haggard from their last minute sprint to the finish line producing a stunning season finale, they took time out to sit down and once again take your questions. They'll also be shedding some light on the upcoming episode "Two for the Road," which airs Wednesday, May 3rd, from 9 to 10 pm on ABC, and maybe even waxing nostalgic on the last episode, "S.O.S." First up though we have an exclusive interview with actor Josh Holloway.

[soundtrack music]

[clip of Sawyer and Jack arguing over the medicine in "The Long Con"]

Kris White: Recently Sawyer once again became one of the most hated characters on the island, all thanks to a cute little tree frog. And it's not just his fellow castaways that have been hating on him. Everyone's getting in on the act, most notably the Royal Institution's Battalion for Indigenous Tree-Frogs, or RIBIT for short. However, as actor Josh Holloway reveals, Sawyer's return to his roots didn't surprise him.

Josh Holloway: It was shocking, and it made me nervous because suddenly, you know, Sawyer was actually getting along, the scenes were kinda comedic, he was getting, you know, still being his smart ass kind of isolated self but coexisting with the group a bit. And of course that felt kind of comfortable, and then when I got that script, I was like ohhh-kaaay...

Interviewer: [chuckles]

Josh Holloway: ...he's back, and what would make him do that. So I had to find that in me: Okay, what would make me do that to these people? And it really was just a reactionary, I think, kind of thing, showing them again: Hey, I'm not dead, and don't forget I'm still around.

[clip of Sawyer taunting Sayid in "The Long Con"]

Kris White: What did surprise Josh was which scene would be the most difficult to shoot.

Josh Holloway: The one that I thought would be the most difficult, and the one that I really was worried about and the execution of was of course when I come out and I tell them I have the guns and there's a new sheriff in town because I'm facing all of my peers, who I respect immensely, and all these actors, and I have to own the situation pretty much. So that of course was challenging and exciting and turned out to be really easy. But what was most difficult was more of the stuff with the... when I come in and tell her that I'm a con man, and I rush her out the door. That scene was like grueling 'cause it was like a big long quick dance.

Interviewer: Mm-hmm.

Josh Holloway: You know, I had to go here, here, turn her, da-da-da, do this whole thing. It was just all one big kind of violent dance. And she was supposed to slap me, and she wasn't actually hitting me, and the scene was (d???). So I was like, "Hit me." So after about 26 takes-

Interviewer: [laughs]

Josh Holloway: I was like, "Oh, my god-"

Interviewer: Did I really say that?

Josh Holloway: "What am I thinking?" Right? So that scene was grueling.

Kris White: Of course, as mentioned before, the seminal moment for Sawyer hating this season came when Sawyer crushed an innocent, if annoying, tree frog.

[clip of Sawyer crushing the tree frog in "One of Them"]

Josh Holloway: Oh god, the hate mail's pouring in. I'm an animal killer. It's official. Buddhists hate me. Hey, come on, we eat that in the South. That's sustenance, is it not? But, uh, no, it was funny because there again he has to do something mean and uh... but find a reason for him somehow, so I was like, well, I guess Jorge kind of busted him being all sensitive to the frog, so he had to-

Interviewer: [chuckles]

Josh Holloway: --you know, finish the job, but uh... But it was fun. That was a fun thing to do because that was a real frog. You know, they bring this frog out, and they're like, "This is an Amazonian poison dart frog." And I'm like, "Oh really? You mean the kind they dip the tip in?" You know, before they kill something. And they're like, "Oh yeah." So I'm like, "And I'm handling the-

Interviewer: [chuckles]

Josh Holloway: --poison dart frog?"

Interviewer: You need a body double-

Josh Holloway: And they're like, "No, we raised it here, so its diet is different than it is in the Amazon, so it doesn't create the same chemicals that make that potent deadly venom that secretes from it." So they said it makes some venom, but it's not anything what it does... So I put this (d???) stuff on my hands, and I hold the frog, but I could still feel a little tingle.

Kris White: As Josh was quick to point out, it was all the name of verisimilitude. In other words, you have to suffer for your art. The frog certainly did. Speaking of suffering, it's time once again to turn over the podcast to executive producers Damon Lindelof and Carlton Cuse... And no, the frog wasn't actually hurt.

[podcast theme music]

Carlton Cuse: Good morning, Damon.

Damon Lindelof: Hi, Carlton.

Carlton Cuse: How are you today?

Damon Lindelof: I'm awesome. How are you?

Carlton Cuse: I'm fantastic. Well, welcome to another podcast. We're glad to be back with you, and today we're going to be talking a little bit about, uh, rehashing "S.O.S." We'll talk a little about "Two for the Road," and then we'll get to your questions.

Damon Lindelof: Why do they call it rehashing?

Carlton Cuse: Um... Well, because it's not hashing. You're rehashing.

Damon Lindelof: But do you ever say, "Let's hash this"?

Carlton Cuse: Yeah.

Damon Lindelof: Like, "Let's hash this out"

Carlton Cuse: I say that all the time. I say, "Let's go hash something out. Let's go hash out the story for S.O.S."

Damon Lindelof: But we've never hashed it before. I mean, it's like-

Carlton Cuse: Well, it didn't just come into being all by itself, did it?

Damon Lindelof: All right, so if we're gonna rehash "S.O.S." then we should hash "Two for the Road."

Carlton Cuse: All right, well then we'll hash "Two for the Road," but in essence, we're sort of fake hashing because we had to hash it when we actually wrote it.

Damon Lindelof: Why isn't it called prehashing?

Carlton Cuse: Well... prehashing would be the idea of coming up with the episode, then you hash the episode out, then you rehash it after you've hashed it.

Damon Lindelof: And when do we do the post-hash?

Carlton Cuse: [snickers]

Damon Lindelof: Is that next week?

Carlton Cuse: That'll be next week-

Damon Lindelof: Okay-

Carlton Cuse: --we'll post-hash.

Damon Lindelof: --got it.

Carlton Cuse: So this is actually probably more of a post-hash, isn't it?

Damon Lindelof: It-

Carlton Cuse: On "S.O.S."

Damon Lindelof: 'Cause we haven't hashed it before. That's why when you rehash something-

Carlton Cuse: Yes, that's true-

Damon Lindelof: --you're hashing for the second time, so-

Carlton Cuse: --we've never ha- This is the first time we will have ever post-hashed or rehashed "S.O.S." ... ever.

Damon Lindelof: Okay, so let's just hash it.

Carlton Cuse: Okay.

Damon Lindelof: "S.O.S."

Carlton Cuse: So-

Damon Lindelof: Rose and Bernard

Carlton Cuse: Why did they finally get a flashback, Damon?

Damon Lindelof: Well I... That's a flashback that was long overdue. We feel, you know, one of the things on the show that we often talk about and want to do is bring up members of the chorus, you know, and the idea that there are these other people on the Island, other than sort of our main group, and Rose and Bernard are the more prominent members of that sort of community of other people, and we brought them back together from different sides of the Island, and people were really curious and interested in, you know, what their back story was. And we had always sort of talked about at least who Rose was and how she and Bernard met, and, you know-

Carlton Cuse: Let's just cut to the chase. I mean, people think Bernard is hot, and they wanted to see more of him.

Damon Lindelof: That's true.

Carlton Cuse: And that was basically the bottom line. People came up and said, "Man, Bernard is a hottie! Let's find out what his story is."

Damon Lindelof: We always hear there's not enough romance on the Island-

Carlton Cuse: That's true.

Damon Lindelof: --and not enough people making out, and we said, "Well, I know who I want to see making out."

Carlton Cuse: Oh my god, on the DVD, there is a love scene with Rose and Bernard that-

Damon Lindelof: It was too hot for TV.

Carlton Cuse: It was way too hot for TV. They won't even show it in Scandinavia. It's that hot.

Damon Lindelof: We'll be rehashing that one for years to come.

Carlton Cuse: Exactly... Exactly, some Hungarian rhapsody music. That's fantastic.

Damon Lindelof: All right, let's do some *rehatching*, which is: Let's talk about Locke leaving the hatch. Will we see his crisis of faith come to a head?

Carlton Cuse: I think we will. I mean, I think Locke has really had his world kind of, um, kind of flipped upside down. I mean, he doesn't really know what to believe at this point, does he?

Damon Lindelof: What's up with him draw- What is he drawing on that piece of paper?

Carlton Cuse: Um, well, you know, in uh- just going back to post-hash the rehash of "Lockdown"-

Damon Lindelof: I have to be honest with you. All of these- This is very confusing me because all the reruns and all that stuff-

Carlton Cuse: Oh my god, the reruns. By the way, we're out of that now, you know, by the time you get to this podcast.

Damon Lindelof: That's right. We're into new episodes all the way home now.

Carlton Cuse: Five new hours all the way home. No more repeats, no more clip shows, no more preemptions. You got four weeks, all new episodes with a two hour season finale which-

Damon Lindelof: All Lost all the time.

Carlton Cuse: --which we are shooting as we speak.

Damon Lindelof: Very exciting.

Carlton Cuse: It's pretty- Actually it's tough to actually shoot it while doing the podcast.

Damon Lindelof: So- I interrupted. You were talking about the lockdown, and I assume getting to-

Carlton Cuse: Oh yeah, there was a big map on the back of the door.

Damon Lindelof: Right.

Carlton Cuse: And, um, Locke- In the center of the map, there was a question mark, and that question mark was, you know- Obviously, whoever drew the map was unclear as to what any details of this particular hatch were.

Damon Lindelof: Well, you're never gonna tell us who drew the map though, so why even bother getting invested in it? I mean-

Carlton Cuse: Well, then forget it- why not- bo- then just watch Criminal Minds, forget it.

Damon Lindelof: All right, well, if you're gonna be like that. Let's talk about "Two for the Road" which is-

Carlton Cuse: Oh, I like this episode.

Damon Lindelof: Let's prehash it.

Carlton Cuse: I like that.

Damon Lindelof: This is a good one. Um, this is the first new episode in a while. And whose flashbacks is it, Carlton?

Carlton Cuse: It would be Ana Lucia's flashbacks.

Damon Lindelof: Good old Ana Lucia.

Carlton Cuse: Yes.

Damon Lindelof: Well, she's a really sort of a... you know, misunderstood character on the show. Are these flashbacks going to shed some more light on who she is and why she came to Australia perhaps?

Carlton Cuse: By the way, how do you shed light. I mean, speaking about hashing and rehashing, where does shedding light come- I mean what d- How would telling us more details about Ana Lucia be in any way shedding light?

Damon Lindelof: Shedding light is a term that was actually sort of originated back in the original colonial settling days in which there'd be these sheds outside people's houses, somewhere where they kept their tools between their outhouse and the main house, and what would happen is you would actually open up the door of the main house for the light, which was candle light, to illuminate your way to the outhouse, and what would happen is that residual light would spill out onto your shed, so that is where the term came from.

Carlton Cuse: Wow, that is fantastic.

Damon Lindelof: Isn't it amazing how I knew that?

Carlton Cuse: I don't know why I bothered to go to college. I should have just gone over to your house and hung out.

Damon Lindelof: All you really have to do is watch Jeopardy.

Carlton Cuse: [chuckles] That's true. I feel that. Um...

Damon Lindelof: Now that we've dealt with that-

Carlton Cuse: Okay.

Damon Lindelof: So, Ana Lucia-

Carlton Cuse: Ana Lucia-

Damon Lindelof: We're gonna find out why she went to Australia.

Carlton Cuse: Yes.

Damon Lindelof: That should be very interesting.

Carlton Cuse: That should very cool, and, um, you know, maybe a few more details about her career in the LAPD.

Damon Lindelof: I saw in the promo, um, for the coming attractions this week, that she's got a gun-

Carlton Cuse: Yeah.

Damon Lindelof: --and she's pointing it at Henry Gale. So what's gonna happen there?

Carlton Cuse: I think she's not too happy with Henry Gale.

Damon Lindelof: Yeah, he's been sort of a thorn in the collective side of our people, and maybe it's time to do something about it.

Carlton Cuse: And the Others, you know, I mean, kinda got off on the wrong foot with her shooting Shannon and that- that is something that she blames pretty much on Others.

Damon Lindelof: She's also killed a couple of the Others herself, you know-

Carlton Cuse: Yeah.

Damon Lindelof: I mean, she hit that woman with a rock, and she killed Goodwin.

Carlton Cuse: Yeah, on that spear. That was cool.

Damon Lindelof: Yeah, that was cool. So maybe she's not as misunderstood as we seem to think she is.

Carlton Cuse: No, maybe in fact she really is- Maybe she's just a badass.

Damon Lindelof: Maybe she is.

Carlton Cuse: Yeah.

Damon Lindelof: All right, moving on.

Carlton Cuse: Okay.

Damon Lindelof: So we have some questions.


Carlton Cuse: We do.

Damon Lindelof: Our favorite part of the uh... adventure here.

Carlton Cuse: Let's hash through some questions today, Damon.

Damon Lindelof: Yeah, okay, Carlton. Let's prehash.

Carlton Cuse: Hey, can I ask you a question, Damon?

Damon Lindelof: I really wish you would.

Carlton Cuse: "Pod question about the French woman" "It seems weird that she was on the Island for 16 years." This is by ILoveLost2.

Damon Lindelof: Okay.

Carlton Cuse: Which we like. That's a good name.

Damon Lindelof: I thought it was much better than ILoveLost1.

Carlton Cuse: Exactly.

Damon Lindelof: Very rare instance of the sequel being better than the original.

Carlton Cuse: That's definitely true. And I can't wait for ILoveLost3.

Damon Lindelof: [snickers] It's a trilogy.

Carlton Cuse: Uh, "She was on the Island for 16 years, and has never seen an Other or found the hatch. I mean, how do you explain this? The Lost people have been on there for about 30 days, and they've seen Others and found two hatches."

Damon Lindelof: Well, I guess it's all relative in terms of, you know, A) Where Rousseau has been sort of holing up and B) More importantly, whether or not she's telling the truth."

Carlton Cuse: Oh my god, she could be lying.

Damon Lindelof: She could be lying. And-

Carlton Cuse: Or she could be a nut.

Damon Lindelof: And-

Carlton Cuse: Couldn't she be a nutter?

Damon Lindelof: I would say that's it's safe to say that her history on the Island would lean towards some degree of instability, you know, with the baby stealing and the fire burning.

Carlton Cuse: What do you think she really meant when she said, [funny accent] "(???) where will you hide them?"

Damon Lindelof: [funny accent] Where will you hide them?

Carlton Cuse: What was that all about?

Damon Lindelof: I don't know, but it's one of the mysteries that we ourselves don't know the answers to.

Carlton Cuse: There's a certain Yugoslavian cast to her French also that's very-

Damon Lindelof: There is.

Carlton Cuse: That's another mystery that (???)

Damon Lindelof: She does speak fluent French.

Carlton Cuse: Yes.

Damon Lindelof: But they only call her the French woman because she speaks French but-

Carlton Cuse: Right.

Damon Lindelof: And her name is Rousseau, which is sort of a traditionally French name.

Carlton Cuse: Definitely French, yes.

Damon Lindelof: But that doesn't mean- And wouldn't that be great if her secret was that she wasn't really French at all?

Carlton Cuse: That's true. Is there gonna be more about the French woman this year?

Damon Lindelof: Umm... I think that we will probably not be seeing Rousseau any more this year, but that doesn't mean that she isn't out there.

Carlton Cuse: Right.

Damon Lindelof: Um, but that doesn't mean that we won't be seeing more about her story.

Carlton Cuse: That's true.

Damon Lindelof: And I'll just sort of leave it at that.

Carlton Cuse: Yes, that'd be a good place to leave it.

Damon Lindelof: I'm gonna leave it right there.

Carlton Cuse: Okay.

Damon Lindelof: And then I'm gonna ask you a question.

Carlton Cuse: Yes.

Damon Lindelof: In fact, it's a Sun pregnancy question by mondamyer, "Hey Damon and Carlton. Just started listening to your podcast and been enjoying them a lot. Hey, I thought of something that might support the theory that Carlton is in Damon's mind. There's no way that Carlton would ever let Damon go first in the introductions. So there you have it guys. Anyway, here's my question."

Carlton Cuse: Oh man!

Damon Lindelof: Well, it's true Carlton. "In the montage at the end of S.O.S. last week, Sun and Jin were in their tent. Jin was caressing Sun's pregnant tum-tum." Her words, not mine. "And Sun was looking away. That made me think that perhaps the baby isn't his. Is there any credence to that theory, my friends? I know you're not my friends. I'm just being polite."

Carlton Cuse: [chuckles] Well, we actually are your friends, and if you have any troubles or issues-

Damon Lindelof: You're obviously Carlton's friend.

Carlton Cuse: Yes. Well, Damon doesn't exist, so you can't really be his friend.

Damon Lindelof: That's true. But if I didn't exist, then I'm sort of going first and second in the introductions.

Carlton Cuse: Yeah, he's throwing, you know...

Damon Lindelof: Let's not get into that.

Carlton Cuse: No, this is (???)

Damon Lindelof: The rehashing was enough.

Carlton Cuse: (???) a hall of mirrors. Exactly. Um... I think looking away while rubbing someone's stomach-

Damon Lindelof: [snickers]

Carlton Cuse: --has many different cultural implications-

Damon Lindelof: In fact, Carlton's doing it right now.

Carlton Cuse: [giggles] I actually-

Damon Lindelof: Try doing it tapping the top of your head, looking away, and rubbing your stomach all at the same time, while making a cultural implication.

Carlton Cuse: Um, but- No, seriously, the mystery of who impregnated Sun is- it's a good thing to be asking questions about, and I think it's something that in Year 3 of the show, we will definitely be dealing with more, you know, we don't-

Damon Lindelof: If it's even a baby in the first place.

Carlton Cuse: That's true.

Damon Lindelof: Maybe it's not... I- It is.

Carlton Cuse: It- Well, maybe.

Damon Lindelof: But if it's not-

Carlton Cuse: If it's not-

Damon Lindelof: What would it be?

Carlton Cuse: Okay. All right.

Damon Lindelof: Going on.

Carlton Cuse: Okay. All right, so a little "ha-ha read this and tell me what you know," Damon.

Damon Lindelof: All right.

Carlton Cuse: From LostSB.

Damon Lindelof: Okay.

Carlton Cuse: Maybe that's Lost Santa Barbara.

Damon Lindelof: I hope so.

Carlton Cuse: "Okay, so in the beginning when the Losties first found out about the Others, the Others were those monsters and smoke creatures and all the loud noises, but now the Others are the people who have Michael and Walt. I'm confused."

Damon Lindelof: I'm confused too.

Carlton Cuse: [chuckles] (???)

Damon Lindelof: I'm not entirely su- yeah, black smoke, all right. Uh, I'm not entirely sure that uh... that the Losties ever referred to the Monster as anything other than the Monster or the creature or the thing out in the jungle.

Carlton Cuse: Right.

Damon Lindelof: Umm... there's been some whispering that's been attributed to the Others.

Carlton Cuse: Right.

Damon Lindelof: And there have been the Others, you know, who as soon as we introduced Ethan fairly early in Season 1, we've known that they were people, um, who may or may not have a relationship with the thing that looks like black smoke and moves around in the trees, but-

Carlton Cuse: Right.

Damon Lindelof: --you know-

Carlton Cuse: They are separate.

Damon Lindelof: They are two separate but equal entities.

Carlton Cuse: Exactly. Well, thank you, that was a good answer.

Damon Lindelof: I just don't want to discriminate.

Carlton Cuse: Thank you.

Damon Lindelof: Uh, I got one more question for you Carlton, and then I think it's time to go hash somewhere. "Food on the Island." This is by MrEkoTheHulk.

Carlton Cuse: Wow, fantastic-

Damon Lindelof: Carlton-

Carlton Cuse: (???) combination of our show and your comic book.

Damon Lindelof: "Is there any significance to the type of food that DHARMA is dropping for their stations? Whenever we see a food label for the DHARMA food, it is something of junk food or kid's food. Examples: chocolate creme cookies, most obviously Oreos, fish crackers, peanut butter, ranch, candy, macaroni and cheese. Why does the DHARMA menu seem like the kid's menu at a restaurant?"

Carlton Cuse: [chuckles]

Damon Lindelof: "Did the Losties actually stumble on a random resort, and the Swan station is actually the kid's club?"

Carlton Cuse: Wow, that is the greatest question ever.

Damon Lindelof: That's why I chose to ask it.

Carlton Cuse: It's fantastic. Um... you know, I think that the DHARMA Initiative, I think it's fair to say that they aren't really up on all the current nutritional trends, and, um, that, you know, whether that became a factor in the demise of the DHARMA Initiative or not, well, that's something that maybe we should be exploring in Season 3, the nutritional demise of the DHARMA Initiative.

Damon Lindelof: My guess, for what it's worth, is that although we've seen some of the junkier foods that the DHARMA Initiative supplies, that, you know, that that's comfort food. I mean, if you're gonna be down there pushing a button every 108 minutes, they might as well give you cookies.

Carlton Cuse: Besides, you know, Sawyer has probably horded all the canned porterhouse steaks and shrimp scampi.

Damon Lindelof: That would be delicious.

Carlton Cuse: And the fresh canned vegetables.

Damon Lindelof: There's peas and stuff.

Carlton Cuse: Yeah.

Damon Lindelof: But who wants to see people eating peas?

Carlton Cuse: Yeah, you can't really like, you know, if someone's gonna be casually snacking, they're not gonna be opening up, you know, a container of canned lima beans.

Damon Lindelof: [snickers] That is like the most profound thing you've ever said on a podcast.

Carlton Cuse: [giggles]

Damon Lindelof: All right-

Carlton Cuse: I hope so.

Damon Lindelof: Well, we're not gonna top that one!

Carlton Cuse: Oh, we are- Don't I have one more for you before we go?

Damon Lindelof: I guess.

Carlton Cuse: Oh, come on.

Damon Lindelof: Go for it.

Carlton Cuse: Okay, this is a real simple one.

Damon Lindelof: Please.

Carlton Cuse: Um...

Damon Lindelof: Can I answer it before you ask it?

Carlton Cuse: Yes.

Damon Lindelof: Four.

Carlton Cuse: Four? Okay.

Damon Lindelof: Is my answer.

Carlton Cuse: All right, um, "It sure looked like Libby in the background of the restaurant scene where Rose and Bernard. It's hard to tell since she was dressed up, but it was obvious the show wanted you to notice her since nothing else stood out in the background of the restaurant scene except for maybe Niagara Falls." But, hey, whatever.

Damon Lindelof: Yeah.

Carlton Cuse: "Has anyone confirmed this? Will you confirm: Was that Libby in that restaurant in Buffalo or Niagara Falls?"

Damon Lindelof: I will do what is actually the opposite of confirm, and I will deny it. In fact-

Carlton Cuse: Yes.

Damon Lindelof: --that is not Libby.

Carlton Cuse: Not Libby.

Damon Lindelof: It is absolutely not Libby. I don't know who it is. This actually brings up an interesting thing that was brought to our attention. Apparently, there was a janitor in the "Numbers" episode of um- screwing in a light bulb last year-

Carlton Cuse: Right.

Damon Lindelof: --in Hurley's flashback.

Carlton Cuse: When Hurley says, "Don't do that. Get off that ladder."

Damon Lindelof: And he bears like a striking resemblance to Michael Emerson, who plays Henry Gale. So the fan community thought, "Oh, that's Henry Gale changing the light bulb as a janitor in a mental institution."

Carlton Cuse: Right.

Damon Lindelof: And again we will go and say no.

Carlton Cuse: No.

Damon Lindelof: That's a different actor, and we are going to officially deny that.

Carlton Cuse: That was not a-

Damon Lindelof: You're barking up the wrong tree.

Carlton Cuse: An unofficial cross.

Damon Lindelof: Yes.

Carlton Cuse: Exactly. Well, I think that was good today, Damon.

Damon Lindelof: I feel really good about it.

Carlton Cuse: I enjoyed- I learned something really good. You shed some light on a subject that I knew nothing about, and that was really helpful for me.

Damon Lindelof: [chuckles] I uh... I made up that thing about the shed. Could you tell?

Carlton Cuse: [fakes crying]

Damon Lindelof: I know, it's- but I was telling the truth about Libby not being in Bernard and- When am I telling the truth? And when am I lying? That's the- But it sounds like a good reason for why that phrase would exist.

Carlton Cuse: Yeah, it does. I would buy it if I was on one of those, you know, like NPR shows.

Damon Lindelof: Yeah (???) tell me.

Carlton Cuse: Yeah.

Damon Lindelof: Don't go listen to their podcast.

Carlton Cuse: No.

Damon Lindelof: They're not talking about interesting things at all.

Carlton Cuse: Exactly.

Damon Lindelof: All right, well-

Carlton Cuse: Thank you.

Damon Lindelof: --thank you guys.

Carlton Cuse: And we'll see you next time.

Damon Lindelof: Bye.

Kris White: That wraps up this podcast. Next week, we'll return with more podcast goodness as Damon and Carlton prehash, rehash, and post-hash this week's episode. Remember, we're always looking for a few good fan questions. Just go to "Two for the Road" airs Wednesday, May 3rd, from 9 to 10 pm only on ABC.

[closing soundtrack music]

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