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Kris White: Hello everyone, and welcome to another edition of the official Lost podcast, the audio-only edition, hosted by abc.com.

[opening Lost theme]

Kris White: Well, we're back. And for once, I don't have to do my hair or pretend that I actually like being in front of the camera. For that, you can check out our video podcast, also available at abc.com. But onto why we're really here today, which is executive producers Damon Lindelof and Carlton Cuse are back with us today. They are here to rehash our last episode, "The Economist," and take your fan questions about polar bear skulls and Hurley's dudes per episode, or d.p.e. They'll also find a little time in there to prehash our next episode, "Eggtown," which airs -- and here comes the plug -- Thursday, February 21 at 9 pm on ABC and is available the next day at -- yes, you guessed it -- abc.com. Here now are Damon and Carlton.

[podcast theme music]

Carlton Cuse: Well hello Damon.

Damon Lindelof: Hiii, Carlton

Carlton Cuse: My gosh, it has been a long time since our last podcast.

Damon Lindelof: Too long, I would say.

Carlton Cuse: You know, I have to say I really missed you. I mean, you know, normally we spend at least 12 hours a day together during the work week, and often times we're working on the weekends, and then all of a sudden due to the WGA strike, that all kind of went away.

Damon Lindelof: But I saw you almost every day during the WGA strike. So to say that I didn't miss you is not an accurate telling of my feelings for you, which are deep and, you know, unyielding, and that's why I got you those chocolates this mornings for Valentine's Day.

Carlton Cuse: Oh, thank you. That was nice of you.

Damon Lindelof: As I wrote on the card, "Be mine forever, Carlton." But I didn't miss you because I saw you all the time.

Carlton Cuse: Pretty much every day of the strike, I would go places, and I would think that I would see you. Like I'd be in line for pizza at Costco, and I would say, "Damon!" and like the guy would turn around, and it wouldn't be you. I mean, I can't tell you how many times I got kicked in the nuts

Damon Lindelof: [chuckles] Wow, can you say that on a podcast? I think you can.

Carlton Cuse: Well, we certainly can.

Damon Lindelof: But one of those times it was me kicking you in the nuts--

Carlton Cuse: [chuckles]

Damon Lindelof: --so, you know...

Carlton Cuse: That was that incident in the filling station.

Damon Lindelof: Right.

Carlton Cuse: And we don't need to go into that here.

Damon Lindelof: It's best not to.

Carlton Cuse: Anyway, yes, so we're actually sitting here back on the Disney lot, happy to be back on the Disney lot, and it is the day that "The Economist" is airing. You're going to--

Damon Lindelof: It's Valentine's Day.

Carlton Cuse: It's Valentine's Day. That's right.

Damon Lindelof: And nothing says Valentine's Day like Sayid.

Carlton Cuse: Heh. Well those chocolates you gave me did.

Damon Lindelof: Yeah, exactly. And they are shaped like Sayid, which is a little weird, but Naveen was kind enough to pose for us, and you know, that's the way it works.

Carlton Cuse: There are some good Lost spin-off products, and then there are some (???) Lost spin-off products.

Damon Lindelof: Yeah, I would say torturer-Sayid, you know--

Carlton Cuse: (???)

Damon Lindelof: --caramel flav- What's fun is until you bite his head off, you don't know what candy filling's inside. So, oh this one is mint, oh this one has cashews in it, I don't like that one so much.

Carlton Cuse: Yeah, well I try to stay away from the cherry ones.

Damon Lindelof: Yes, that somehow feels like inorganic to Sayid. In any case though, you guys will have already seen "The Economist" so we can rehash it--

Carlton Cuse: Yeah.

Damon Lindelof: --and then we can prehash "Eggtown" which is gonna be very exciting.

Carlton Cuse: So obviously now you know that Sayid is also one of the Oceanic 6, which--

Damon Lindelof: So that's four

Carlton Cuse: Which pretty much by my count leaves two left.

Damon Lindelof: That's four down.

Carlton Cuse: That's four down. To recap, that would be Jack, Kate, Hurley, and Sayid.

Damon Lindelof: I think a lot of people are kind of saying though: You're gonna pull something clever on us and say that Kate is not actually one of the Oceanic 6 because she's like living under an assumed identity or something like that. And we can confirm for you here that Hurley, Jack, Sayid, and Kate are all-- are four members of the Oceanic 6.

Carlton Cuse: That doesn't mean we're not gonna pull a trick on you though.

Damon Lindelof: Yeah, but not with those four.

Carlton Cuse: Not with those four.

Damon Lindelof: Those four-- The remaining two--

Carlton Cuse: No tricks.

Damon Lindelof: Yeah, the remaining two are gonna be...

Carlton Cuse: Very tricky.

Damon Lindelof: Very tricky.

Carlton Cuse: But anyway, we actually really love the idea that Sayid is in the future working for Ben and helping to fight off the kind of evil forces of badness.

Damon Lindelof: Yeah, you know, when we basically first started talking about what Sayid was gonna do in his post-island life, we all sort of gravitated towards this Jason Bourne idea that he was sort of traipsing around the world assassinating people. And it was kind of a cool idea to us because he'd have a certain degree of notoriety as a result of being one of the Oceanic 6, which would be the perfect cover for an assassin. It's a very sort of James Bond-ish idea where you can be a secret agent but also sort of come flouncing into a casino and make a big display of yourself.

Carlton Cuse: Yeah, we--

Damon Lindelof: Not that Sayid flounces.

Carlton Cuse: We'd also seen The Devil Wears Prada about the same time, but we could not make that into a future flash-forward.

Damon Lindelof: We're still working on that.

Carlton Cuse: You're gonna get the identity of the other members of the Oceanic 6 soon. That's not gonna be a sort of an end of the season sort of mystery.

Damon Lindelof: Yeah, and you know, we might have another flash-forward to be looking forward to in the very near future.

Carlton Cuse: Yes.

Damon Lindelof: Which may or may not reveal other members of the Oceanic 6.

Carlton Cuse: Let's just say it will.

Damon Lindelof: Well... Okay, let's say it will.

Carlton Cuse: Okay.

Damon Lindelof: It will.

Carlton Cuse: It will.

Damon Lindelof: Just one other thing, one other, you know, one other thing, just about "The Economist" that I found interesting and certainly conversationally, a lot of people are very activated by Faraday, the character that Jeremy Davies is playing. And, you know, we're really excited about all our new actors, you know, hopefully we'll be talking about them in some future podcasts, but we really love Rebecca Mader and Ken Leung and Jeremy Davies and uh--

Carlton Cuse: Jeff Fahey.

Damon Lindelof: Jeff Fahey. They're just doing awesome work. So Faraday was conducting some interesting experiments in "The Economist," and I was wondering, Carlton, if you'd like to explain to me at least because I found it very intriguing. What's up with all this sort of rocketry digital watch fiascos?

Carlton Cuse: Well there was kind of a time shift that obviously occurred. I mean this rocket was launched, and it was synchronized with Faraday's watch, but in fact when it arrived, the digital clock had a slightly different time, which would suggest that there was some sort of time fluctuation that occurred in that rocket's journey from the freighter to the island, and I think that's something which is pretty important.

Damon Lindelof: That's interesting.

Carlton Cuse: Yeah.

Damon Lindelof: I just-- that's why I was asking.

Carlton Cuse: Well thank you for asking--

Damon Lindelof: Because I found it engaging.

Carlton Cuse: --that was a good question. You picked up on something very important in that episode.

Damon Lindelof: That's good because we wrote future episodes about that very thing--

Carlton Cuse: [chuckles]

Damon Lindelof: --and if we hadn't picked up on it, that would have been a detriment to the show.

Carlton Cuse: So who would you go with, Locke or Jack?

Damon Lindelof: Oh, back in the premiere?

Carlton Cuse: Yeah.

Damon Lindelof: Well, it's interesting. If I were just on the island in the moment that it was going on, I'd go with Locke because he sort of has the more salient argument, but if I--

Carlton Cuse: Never mind that he, you know, threw a knife into Naomi's back.

Damon Lindelof: Yeah, but the fact is Charlie died and said that these people are liars and not-- It wouldn't be that I was so much going with Locke that I was going away from Jack. But what's interesting is when you watch the show and you see the flash-forwards, you know that Jack is right because Jack is gonna end up getting off the island as a result of his decision making process.

Carlton Cuse: That's why I'd go with Jack.

Damon Lindelof: But what if you didn't know he was gonna get off the island, and you were just there?

Carlton Cuse: I'd still probably go with Jack anyway because, you know, I kind of like Jack.

Damon Lindelof: No, Carlton, because you went on record as saying whatever Rose and Bernard are doing is what I'm doing, and Rose and Bernard stayed with Jack.

Carlton Cuse: That's true.

Damon Lindelof: And that's--

Carlton Cuse: Well--

Damon Lindelof: Let's-- You can be honest.

Carlton Cuse: It's pretty much just Rose.

Damon Lindelof: You've got a little crush on Rose.

Carlton Cuse: I like, you know-- I mean Bernard's fine, but Rose, she's got it all happening.

Damon Lindelof: This is why you've been trying to kill Bernard off for the better part of three seasons so more Rose for you.

Carlton Cuse: Well, I won't deny that.

Damon Lindelof: Carlton, look at me. She's fictional.

Carlton Cuse: [chuckles]

Damon Lindelof: She's not a real person, and it's time to move on.

Carlton Cuse: You're gonna tell me that on Valentine's Day?

Damon Lindelof: I'm just saying it's time to let go. That's why-- Just go eat more of your Sayid-shaped candies and get over it.

Carlton Cuse: Oh god. All right.

Damon Lindelof: There's some sort of Rose Valentine's Day joke to be made here, but I'm just way too tired to think.

Carlton Cuse: Okay, all right. Yeah, we are going to try to do weekly podcasts, but there may be a few hiccups down stream, particularly as we actually-- Right now it's a little better because we're just writing, but once production gears up, it's going to get a little crazy.

Damon Lindelof: Sometimes the tireder we get though, the better the podcast is.

Carlton Cuse: Always.

Damon Lindelof: It gets (???)

Carlton Cuse: They really are, yeah.

Damon Lindelof: We start laughing, hallucinating...

Carlton Cuse: I'm sure people are really dying for more maniacal laughter from me.

Damon Lindelof: Like one time I was convinced we were doing the podcast and you had a parrot sitting on your head. Did you?

Carlton Cuse: That was not a fiction. That really was-- I sold that parrot on Ebay during the strike.

Damon Lindelof: Um...

Carlton Cuse: Can I ask you a few questions?

Damon Lindelof: Yes.

Carlton Cuse: All right.

[questions fanfare]

Carlton Cuse: Excellent, let's rock. I am really happy to be back, and I'm really happy to see your questions, so you guys feel free to write some in, and we'll be addressing more next week. This question is about Hurley from IDontLikeLocke.

Damon Lindelof: Heh.

Carlton Cuse: "Dear Damon Carlton, first of all, love the podcast," blah blah blah, all that usual stuff.

Damon Lindelof: That's my favorite part.

Carlton Cuse: [chuckles]

Damon Lindelof: Okay...

Carlton Cuse: "I have several questions regarding Hurley." I like this part. "In Season 1, Hurley says dude 73 times, occurring in all 24 episodes."

Damon Lindelof: Wow.

Carlton Cuse: "In Season 2, he only says it--"

Damon Lindelof: So that's 3 d.p.e.s, as just... mathematically extrapolated.

Carlton Cuse: Heh. Don't interrupt. "In Season 2, he only says it 44 times while appearing on all but one episode." How many episodes is that then?

Damon Lindelof: It's slightly 2 dpes. It's like 1.9 dpes.

Carlton Cuse: "And then in Season 3, he says it 72 times when he wasn't in seven episodes."

Damon Lindelof: Wow.

Carlton Cuse: Please can you explain the reason for this fluctuation. I just can't understand it.

Damon Lindelof: In the dpes?

Carlton Cuse: Yes.

Damon Lindelof: Well, this is very astute, and this is one of those-- We should almost play like a dun-duh-duh-dun! Like some sort of fanfare, pulling back the curtain moment. In Jorge Garcia's contract, we are only allowed to do 80 dudes per season.

Carlton Cuse: I think technically actually he gets a bonus if he... more than 80.

Damon Lindelof: Right.

Carlton Cuse: It's like, you know, in baseball, like plate appearances or innings pitched.

Damon Lindelof: Right. There were, um, complex renegotiations going on with the entire cast in Season 2, and basically Jorge would not go above his allotted 44 dudes per season, so we had to be creative in the writers' room and have him say things like man and (???), and then we realized he was sort of stepping on Sawyer's toes a little, but fortunately we were able to resolve and get it back up to the 77 number and--

Carlton Cuse: This season we're going for 200.

Damon Lindelof: Yeah.

Carlton Cuse: Pretty much all he's going to say in any circumstance is duuude.

Damon Lindelof: All right, well, there's the answer to your question.

Carlton Cuse: Um, I have two more-- There's two more parts to this question.

Damon Lindelof: Oh, great.

Carlton Cuse: They will serve as quick answers.

Damon Lindelof: Okay.

Carlton Cuse: "Will we ever actually see what happened when the deck collapsed? Is there more to be told about the deck collapse?"

Damon Lindelof: Uh, in Hurley's backstory, for those of you who sort of need to be refreshed, part of the reason that he's institutionalized in Santa Rosa is he has this tremendous amount of guilt because he was at a party, and he stepped out onto this deck, and the deck collapsed. And he feels it's a result of his unhealthy relationship with food and his horrible bad luck.

Carlton Cuse: And I think we can confirm now that Season 5 will be all about the deck collapse.

Damon Lindelof: Yeah, I think it's actually--

Carlton Cuse: That's pretty much the focus of Season 5.

Damon Lindelof: It's actually just called Season 5, colon, deck collapse, exclamation point.

Carlton Cuse: That's right.

Damon Lindelof: So you heard it here first.

Carlton Cuse: One more part of this question.

Damon Lindelof: Yes.

Carlton Cuse: "What's up with Libby?"

Damon Lindelof: This part I'm gonna take seriously.

Carlton Cuse: "Will we ever find out why she was in a mental institute? And are we going to see her again this season?"

Damon Lindelof: Now, there's something-- The difference between a mental institute and a mental institution--

Carlton Cuse: [chuckles]

Damon Lindelof: --is that in a mental institute, you learn how to become mental. So I just want to make sure--

Carlton Cuse: Is Harvard a mental institute?

Damon Lindelof: Yeah, I want to make sure that we--

Carlton Cuse: And Atascadero is a mental institution.

Damon Lindelof: Yes, exactly. You and I both did three-year programs in mental institutes. Libby, however, was in a mental institution. All we can say is you will be seeing Libby again soon at some point this season.

Carlton Cuse: Yes.

Damon Lindelof: And as far how she ended up in the mental institution, that's a question for another day. I get to ask you a question, Carlton--

Carlton Cuse: Thank you.

Damon Lindelof: --on behalf of DoubleDealer. I like questions that come in at 11:54 pm because you find like, you know, when you're dancing around the midnight hour, that's when you get some really interesting questions. So DoubleDealer has posted 126 times, and the question is as follows, Carlton, "Is the smoke monster a security system that was made to resemble the Hindu god Vishnu? And is Hurley's bird supposed to be like Garuda? Vishnu is described as being the color of clouds. Vishnu is also described in the Bhagavad Gita as having a universal form otherwise known as the Vishvarupa, which is beyond the ordinary limits of human sense perception. You've also mentioned that Hurley's bird has a wingspan of 16 feet, and Garuda is known for having a large wingspan. So are they based on them or did you have them in mind when designing them?"

Carlton Cuse: I've only been to like yoga once.

Damon Lindelof: Heh, this is not a yoga question.

Carlton Cuse: Um, isn't it?

Damon Lindelof: Those are actually Indian gods, I believe.

Carlton Cuse: The answer is yes.

[pause]

[somebody (Kris or Jeff?) chuckles in the background]

Damon Lindelof: Wow. There you go. You heard it here first, folks.

Carlton Cuse: I think that's actually very-- Those are very interesting observations. I wish that we could say that we were as influenced by, you know, sort of Hindu culture, but I think perhaps some of that is coincidental.

Damon Lindelof: Carlton and I, we were musing over lunch with our producers here, of the Lost podcast--

Carlton Cuse: That's Kris and Jeff.

Damon Lindelof: Kris and Jeff. That basically--

Carlton Cuse: Jeff, you can't wave and be heard.

[Kris and Jeff can be heard laughing]

Damon Lindelof: But essentially we were saying that if we were just one-tenth of as smart as you guys are, the show would be amazing and make no sense whatsoever.

Carlton Cuse: [snickers] (???) indecipherable.

Damon Lindelof: Yeah, exactly.

Carlton Cuse: But we learn more from your questions than you actually learn from the show. So that's good.

Damon Lindelof: And I learn more about you, Carlton.

Carlton Cuse: Uh, this is from BenNeverLies, who's been posting 19 times and wrote this at 1:21 pm, probably while at work. "Damon, how does a polar bear--" Well, it doesn't say Damon. I'm just asking you.

Damon Lindelof: Okay.

Carlton Cuse: It just says, "How does a polar bear with a Dharma collar get in the middle of the desert?"

Damon Lindelof: Is this a trick question?

Carlton Cuse: [chuckles]

Damon Lindelof: How does a polar bear-- Well, I guess there are a couple of possible explanations. One is that...

Carlton Cuse: I'd like to know what the couple are.

Damon Lindelof: Yeah, okay, one is that he got on a boat, and the boat went uh...

Carlton Cuse: To Tunisia?

Damon Lindelof: Sailed to Tunisia--

Carlton Cuse: Does he have to buy a ticket?

Damon Lindelof: --which I believe is landlocked. No, he just-- He could have just stowed away, or, you know, and then hitchhiked his way into the desert and then realized, "I'm a polar bear, and this is probably a bad idea." But by then...

Carlton Cuse: He was dead.

Damon Lindelof: He was dead. So that's one way. Another way is that there are, you know, that there are properties of the island, shall we say. Let's just call them properties for now--

Carlton Cuse: Okay.

Damon Lindelof: --that are potentially--

Carlton Cuse: (???)

Damon Lindelof: That are potentially capable of, shall we say, transporting, you know, things from the island off the island.

Carlton Cuse: It might be helpful actually for those viewers who are interested in this question to go online and find the training film for the Orchid station.

Damon Lindelof: Yeah, that would be a very good place to start.

Carlton Cuse: Which, you know, is something which-- rarely do we have actually have things that aren't in the show that actually are important to the show, but in this case, it is important, yet if you don't see the Orchid trailer, you can actually-- when we get to it later in the show, you'll be (???)

Damon Lindelof: But it's good to say if you're curious how a polar bear with a Dharma collar ends up in Tunisia, watch that film. Because that polar bear has certain things in common with say, bunnies with 8's on their backs.

Carlton Cuse: That's right.

Damon Lindelof: Carlton, this is a question from JackIsMyShepherd.

Carlton Cuse: Nice.

Damon Lindelof: 4 posts, 11:47 am. It's a nice reasonable time in the morning to be posting. "I am sure that it is simply a network decision or something because I find it impossible that you guys would do something so careless on a--" They actually say carless.

Carlton Cuse: Carless.

Damon Lindelof: But since there are no cars on the show, I assume they mean careless. "--on a show based on mystery. Here's my question. Why in the world do you list the stars and guest stars during the scene right after the title sequence? It gives away a lot. For example, it gave away Boone was gonna be in Locke's episode last year, as well as Walt being in the finale. Granted, we don't know in what manner, but it still ruins some of the shock value. But the main problem is this: During 'Confirmed Dead,' Jeremy Davies, Rebecca Mader, and Ken Leung are all listed as starring, and Jeff Fahey is listed as guest starring, which means the possibility of him dying is great and given away even if Internet spoilers are avoided."

Carlton Cuse: You know, there's another game you could play, and it involves getting out old pictures of like the Politburo in Russia and seeing who's standing next to each other too. There's a lot of clues about who's in power and who's not in power based on those types of pictures.

Damon Lindelof: Is that one of the games your family played on a Sunday night? [Carlton giggles]

Carlton Cuse: We do, we just--

Damon Lindelof: My family, we played Monopoly. But I guess at the Cuse house, it was like, it's time to play--

Carlton Cuse: [laughing] Who's (???) Politburo

Damon Lindelof: --who's in power at the Politburo!

Carlton Cuse: Well, that's (???)

Damon Lindelof: This explains a lot, Carlton. This explains at least the first two years of the mental institute.

Carlton Cuse: You know, the thing is that these actors have contracts, and their contracts require them to have credits, and those credits are required to be at the front of the show. So, you know, um, yeah, those names have to appear there. I is a network contractual obligation to credit the actors at the beginning of the show, so um-

Damon Lindelof: So you're saying that Jeff Fahey is not in any more danger than anybody else because he is just guest starring?

Carlton Cuse: Well, yeah, I think that's an incorrect assumption to assume that because he's listed as a guest star that he is in more danger. By the way, Harold Perrineau has been listed in the credits. And have you seen Harold Perrineau in the show?

Damon Lindelof: Not unless he's hiding.

Carlton Cuse: [chuckles]

Damon Lindelof: I mean it's possible.

Carlton Cuse: You know, maybe it's an easter egg. You gotta go frame by frame, oh, there's Harold!

Damon Lindelof: Well that's good because it's like by the time-- I never know when he's gonna pop up. That's exciting.

Carlton Cuse: That's exactly right. So, you know, it can work different ways. So yes, you see Harold Perrineau's name, but you haven't seen Harold Perrineau. Various actors are credited in episodes in which they might not even appear. So, you know, you can intuit things, like in a Politburo photo, but that doesn't mean that they're actually correct. I have another animal question for you, Damon.

Damon Lindelof: Couldn't be any more-

Carlton Cuse: Because you killed with the polar bear question.

Damon Lindelof: Couldn't be any more interesting than the Politburo.

Carlton Cuse: This is by-- [giggles]

Damon Lindelof: [chuckles]

Carlton Cuse: Maybe on the show we could have a polar bureau. [giggles]

Damon Lindelof: Oh, yeah, okay.

Carlton Cuse: This is from Centro57.

Damon Lindelof: Yes.

Carlton Cuse: He has posted 50 times. Posted at 2:34 pm.

Damon Lindelof: Okay.

Carlton Cuse: "Damon, where did all the cows come from? Was this Patchy's cow? Does this cow have a name? Are clues to the mysteries of this island found with the history of this cow? And I would like to see a backstory on this cow."

Damon Lindelof: Uh, wow, great question. I think we can confirm here that this is in fact Patchy's cow.

Carlton Cuse: Yeah.

Damon Lindelof: Because, you know, one of the things when Patchy's station, The Flame, blows up, there were a lot people I think who were concerned, you know, what happened to the cow?

Carlton Cuse: Svetlana.

Damon Lindelof: (???) cow. Svetlana, yeah, I was gonna get to that next. And now we know she is wandering the island.

Carlton Cuse: Looking very lonely.

Damon Lindelof: Yeah, looking lonely, looking up at the stars, occasionally grazing, hanging out with the Monster. There's a whole show going on. That's Season 6. Season 6 is the adventures of Svetlana. You know, because we are gonna be completely-- After we do Season 5, the deck collapse, I don't know what's gonna be left. So, you know, that's what I would say.

Carlton Cuse: So, in Season 6- [laughs]

Damon Lindelof: Let me ask you a question, Carlton. [laughing] When you looked at pictures of the Politburo--

Carlton Cuse: [laughing]

Damon Lindelof: --how close is the cow standing to the premiere?

[they settle down]

Damon Lindelof: All right, this is a fastball down the Carlton Cuse strike zone. My final question by James Murray Hernandez, 8 in the morning, 99 posts.

Carlton Cuse: Wow.

Damon Lindelof: Carlton.

Carlton Cuse: Yes.

Damon Lindelof: "So Charlotte Staples Lewis is one of the helicopter crew. If I'm not mistaken, the famous philosopher Christian apologist C.S. Lewis, his middle was Staples. Coincidence? I think not! I'm just waiting to find out that DHARMA had a lion named Aslan, and the name of the biggest backer of DHARMA was Alvar Caspian Hanso. Also, wasn't Lewis working with J.R.R. Tolkien on a story connecting Tolkien's middle earth with today's earth? I think it was called The Lost Road or some such thing."

Carlton Cuse: Well, let's just say that yes, the homage to Clive Staples Lewis is very intentional, and there definitely are themes in the Narnia Chronicles that are very relevant for Lost.

Damon Lindelof: Chronicles are very hot right now. You've got the Spiderwick Chronicles, the Sarah Connor Chronicles, you know. What makes something a chronicle?

Carlton Cuse: Uh, lots of it.

Damon Lindelof: Heh.

Carlton Cuse: Lots of episodes.

Damon Lindelof: Lots of them.

Carlton Cuse: Yes. I think, you know, a reading of the Narnia books is not only enjoyable, but probably somewhat instructive.

Damon Lindelof: Yeah, in the same way I think that Alice in Wonderland is something that we refer to and Oz are sort of other-- What's great about those worlds is they're worlds on the other side of Earth. That is to say they're not fantasy realms like in Star Wars. Narnia is actually connected to the world that we know.

Carlton Cuse: Right.

Damon Lindelof: And so is Oz, as is Wonderland.

Carlton Cuse: As is our island.

Damon Lindelof: As is our island.

Carlton Cuse: I think that's a pretty good place to stop.

Damon Lindelof: Heh.

Carlton Cuse: There's nowhere to go from here.

Damon Lindelof: It ain't a good place to start.

Carlton Cuse: [chuckles]

Damon Lindelof: Guys, it's obviously great to be back.

Carlton Cuse: Yes.

Damon Lindelof: Thank you so much for listening to us crack each other up.

Carlton Cuse: Yes, and we look forward to seeing you next week after uh...

Damon Lindelof: "Eggtown"

Carlton Cuse: "Eggtown"

Damon Lindelof: Which has got a killer ending.

Carlton Cuse: From us to you, happy Valentines.

Damon Lindelof: Happy Valentines Day, Carlton.

Carlton Cuse: Happy Valentines Day, Damon.

Damon Lindelof: Why is your hand on my thigh?

Carlton Cuse: Stop it!

Damon Lindelof: Heh, okay.

Carlton Cuse: Bye.

Damon Lindelof: Bye.

Kris White: That's it for our podcast today. As the guys said between fits of laughter, we hope to be back again next week. But fear not. If we're not, we shall return shortly. In the mean time, don't forget that you can submit your questions for Damon and Carlton at lost.abc.com. "Eggtown" airs February 21 at 9 pm on ABC and is available the next day at abc.com.

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