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Jacob's enemy orchestrated the Time Flashes to manipulate John Locke
While at first the time periods visited seemed random. This is because we were learning about them primarily through the eyes of several different survivors. However, when focusing on John Locke's experiences only, and using current insight regarding the events of the Season 5 finale, a pattern begins to develop: John Locke's experiences during his time-traveling better serve to enhance his faith and his connection to the Island, and these experiences were a direct result of the manipulation of time traveling by an outside force; conceivably and specifically, Jacob's enemy. Let's look at John Locke's final moments on the Island:
- "Because You Left"
- The Beechcraft First time jump; 1990's-ish. A crucial moment in John Locke's history with the island was the discovery of this airplane and the events that transpired. Look it up. Huge impact on John to experience this crash firsthand. This would likely influence his faith that the Island is guiding him somehow. Then he is shot in the leg and left for dead. Until...
- Meeting with Richard. And guess who else? Jacob's enemy in John's body, and Ben listening in the distance. Jacob's enemy manipulated Richard to go over there. The words that Richard used to persuade John were the words of Jacob's enemy. He was minipulating all of them. John's mission is to leave the island, retrieve the Oceanic 6 and Ben and bring them to the island for some unknown purpose. This is also where we learn that John might have to die to accomplish this. So the flaw in logic is that the man impersonating John Locke after the return to the Island on Ajira 316 would have to know that John would die, and that the success of this plan would somehow lead to the events of "The Incident" for all parities involved. He would have to know the future. However, conceivably an enemy that had the ability to time travel might know a thing or two about the future or the past.
- The Beechcraft First time jump; 1990's-ish. A crucial moment in John Locke's history with the island was the discovery of this airplane and the events that transpired. Look it up. Huge impact on John to experience this crash firsthand. This would likely influence his faith that the Island is guiding him somehow. Then he is shot in the leg and left for dead. Until...
- "The Lie" and "Jughead"
- The Flaming Arrows. During "The Lie" the survivors, not including John Locke, are attacked on their camp by a mysterious group or archers. After they escape, They reunite with John, after he saves them from a group of people in U.S. Army fatigues. We learn in "Jughead" that these individuals were a group of people living on the island including Charles Widmore, Eloise Hawking, and...
- Meeting with Richard, part 2. Part 1, technically. John makes his way into camp and meets with a version of Richard who is meeting John Locke for the first time. We know that John has a history with Richard. We know that Richard visited him in the hospital the day he is born, and that it was this future/past John that suggested he do that. Richard visited him as a boy, and was always telling John how special he was on the Island. Richard has a ton of faith in John. I think that this is the direct result of this experience. My belief is that the individual who is causing the time travel is using this particular experience to manipulate Richard Alpert. He will listen to whatever John Locke says to him. John always speaks the truth, and Richard recognizes this through all of his experiences with John over the years. So when Jacob's enemy comes to town in John's body, no matter how outrageous his demands, Richard will always obey.
- The Flaming Arrows. During "The Lie" the survivors, not including John Locke, are attacked on their camp by a mysterious group or archers. After they escape, They reunite with John, after he saves them from a group of people in U.S. Army fatigues. We learn in "Jughead" that these individuals were a group of people living on the island including Charles Widmore, Eloise Hawking, and...
- "The Little Prince"
- The Hatch, dude. The Hatch! After another time switch, John Locke and his people are taken to a night that happened a few months prior during Season 1 of the show. The events of that night at the hatch, where John sees the light from the underground facility is one of the most important moments from John Locke's life. The moment his faith is solidified. John is calling out to God, and God answers. Of course, it's not God. It's Desmond. But that doesn't matter. For the character of John Locke, this seals the deal. He has total faith in the Island. Whatever happens, John is going to go full force. Now he knows what he has to do. He is going to follow the path set out for him by Jacob's enemy without question. He thinks he is doing what is best for the Island, for his friends, and for himself and his devotion, but he's not. We know now that it was a manipulation, and I believe that John had to come to this decision by no other means. The enemy knew that John would have to experience a string of miracles, as he always does, before he would be convinced to do his bidding.
- Back to the Future The survivors travel through time again. Probably to now. It is a time after Ajira 316 has crashed on the island. They are persued by unknown assailants. They travel again, out of harms way. It's 1988 and Danielle and her team of Scientists are living on the island. There are a series of jumps through time before John finally makes it to the Orchid station to complete his task of leaving the Island. These time jumps do appear to be more random in nature, but the rapid pace with which they occur begin to take their toll on the individuals involved. Charlotte, Miles, and Juliet could be dying. People everywhere are lost and alone. John is the only one who can stop the turmoil. While the current events of the time periods visitied may not have any direct impact on the storyline of John Locke, the well-being of everyone on the Island is his priority as leader. They arrive at a modern version of the Orchid Station, before quickly being transported to an earlier time where they find a well that John Locke enters. While John is going down the well, the group is taken to a time before a well even existed. The result of this is John ending up at the bottom of the well with a broken leg. Very similar to what happened during "Because You Left", John is injured (in the leg), and meets with an eerie individual who instructs him further on his path. This time it is Christian Shepard. We don't fully understand yet who Christian is working for, or the how or why. He has stated in the past to John that he represents Jacob and his desires. We don't know what's going on with that. But he has the information that John needs to return to the island after he has fulfilled his mission. He also tells him how to leave. John leaves with the assistance of a big wheel.
- The Hatch, dude. The Hatch! After another time switch, John Locke and his people are taken to a night that happened a few months prior during Season 1 of the show. The events of that night at the hatch, where John sees the light from the underground facility is one of the most important moments from John Locke's life. The moment his faith is solidified. John is calling out to God, and God answers. Of course, it's not God. It's Desmond. But that doesn't matter. For the character of John Locke, this seals the deal. He has total faith in the Island. Whatever happens, John is going to go full force. Now he knows what he has to do. He is going to follow the path set out for him by Jacob's enemy without question. He thinks he is doing what is best for the Island, for his friends, and for himself and his devotion, but he's not. We know now that it was a manipulation, and I believe that John had to come to this decision by no other means. The enemy knew that John would have to experience a string of miracles, as he always does, before he would be convinced to do his bidding.
- "The Life and Death of Jeremy Bentham"
- John travels to the modern day in our dimension to reunite the Oceanic 6 and return them to the Island. John is a failure in his mission and is filled with self doubt. He discovers that maybe Richard was right. We know what happens after that. John dies. This new guy takes over John's identity. For what greater purpose, we cannot know, yet. Part of that plan involves manipulating Benjamin Linus to kill Jacob, with some assistance from Richard Alpert. Things that have been set in motion for some time, but at least begining with the time traveling.
The men who are "after" Sayid and Hurley are hired by Ben
We hear that Ben "has a few ideas" about how to get the O6 back together to return to the Island. His idea for Kate: hire the lawyer to demand a blood sample and pressure her to return. For Hurley, Ben keeps a man outside the mental facility and waits for a moment when Hurley is vulnerable (facing arrest for murder) to make the pitch. For Sayid, who is the most dangerous and least likely to be persuaded by Ben, Ben has to hire men to tranquilize Sayid. It's clear that the men don't want to kill Sayid, just subdue him. We also know that Ben has plenty of agents off of the Island; these are either some of them or perhaps just people he's hired to assist with his quest to return the Island. Ben has been told by Ms. Hawking that he has limited time to get the O6 back together, and so Ben is using all of the tactics he can muster to pressure them into it.
The Image of the Wheel
- The image is a view from above, like a cross-section view, similar to an ultrasound showing a baby in a womb.
- The image was taken from above; Ben had to go down two ladders to from the chamber to the wheel.
- Dr. Chang said if they drilled "even one more centimeter into the wall" they could release the energy so the "time shifting matter" is directly on the other side of the wall. Since they were still building the Orchid they just moved to another spot to construct the vault from a safe distance
- The wheel, which already existed before DHARMA built the Orchid Station. The wheel acted as a "lock of a door" or "lid of a bottle" that energy saved inside would be explosively released in case it was turned on.
- The numbers along the sides of the image represent distance, giving a scale of sorts. Having see the Wheel in There's No Place Like Home, and judging Ben's height at a bit under 6', the Wheel would seem to be approx 8' across (makes sense - an eight spoked wheel being 8 feet wide). Comparing the size of the Wheel to the numbers in the image, it would seem these numbers are metric meters (8' is about 2.4m). It also indicates the the Wheel is 14m away from wherever the image was shot.
- Tony, the construction manager with Chang says, "There's an open chamber about 20 meters in", so they are using metric.
- and of course, Chang uses the word "centimeter"
- The use of metric would indicate a more European flavor to DHARMA, though scientists have long used metric.
- Scientists have used metric for a long time, but English Units are still more common in U. S. construction than metric, and certainly would have been more common during Dharma's active years.
- SI was developed in 1960 and was based on the older metric system. The US never officially adopted SI. However, this (DHARMA Initiative) being an international effort, it would make sense that they would use a system common to all. Also, it is not a construction instrument that produced this image, but a scientific one.
- Even though most of the scientists in US and in Europe would use metrics, it is unlikely that a labour worker from US would be comfortable using it. This indicates that DHARMA is not US based. Thinking back to the cast of characters "The Economist" would be a very likely person to be connected to DHARMA.
- Dharma is in fact based in the US, in Ann Arbor, Michigan. It would not be that difficult for a "labor" worker to learn metric. In the same way, it would not be that difficult to learn a non-American spelling to words like "labour."
- Tony, the construction manager with Chang says, "There's an open chamber about 20 meters in", so they are using metric.
- In the first view of the scan there are some horizontal lines from the tips of the wheel, leading out to the right, and shown in the image circled in red is a number which seems to be a size estimate of the wheel - it is not clear but could say 2.5m or 3.5m.
scan view showing wheel being measured
- Chang is making orientation films for DHARMA Stations, although this one is not finished. Or is being expanded. Either way, this seems to indicate the flashback is in the early days of establishing DHARMA on the Island.
- This indicates that Chang is either very senior or the designated specialist to manage the Orchid Station issue.
- Looking at the mass below and to the left of the wheel in the high-resolution version of the sonar image, there seems to be the outline of a face with facial features - at the 14 ft. line there are eyes, at the 13 ft. line there are ears on the side and a nose in the center, at the 12 ft. line and slightly below is a frowning and agape mouth and at the 11 ft. line is a chin.
- Also, looking at the other image with the full scan - if you flip the sonar image vertically, there also seems to be something like another face which is black in the lower-right corner (upper-right when rightside-up): eyebrows, nose, chin and lips which look like they're blowing out a gust of cold air.
Desmond and Faraday
- We did not see their meeting in Desmond's original time line because at that time, Desmond did not remember it. Faraday disappeared into thin air after confusing Desmond. It's possible Desmond dismissed the entire encounter and then only remembered it after his dream.
- Desmond heard Sawyer knocking but had to put on his HAZMAT suit. By the time Desmond got to the door, Sawyer was gone and Desmond assumed that it was Daniel who had been knocking from the beginning.
- Plus Faraday would care a lot about Desmond if he thought that because Desmond was special he could somehow undo Charlotte's death.
Moving and not moving through time
- The Others do not travel through time because they have an affinity with the Island. "Others" does not include Juliet because she has no affinity with the Island and/or because she has been marked following her trial.
- There are two types of time travel occurring in Lost, and it is important to keep them separate.
- Desmond moves through his own time line, to places he has already been, even if he did not remember having done so before becoming unstuck. When he does this, he leaves his current body behind, sometimes in an unconscious state. Desmond has never traveled somewhere (or "somewhen") new as a result of being unstuck.
- Locke (later Sawyer) and party are traveling to different time periods, but not to when they had previously been. They take their bodies with their consciousness.
The Compass
Charlotte's Memory
- Charlotte not being able to remember her mother's maiden name is caused by the same thing that was causing Daniel's memory problems mentioned briefly in Season 4. Presumably, this is a side effect of time travel, something that Daniel has apparently done a lot of.
- Probably Daniel does not have memory problem, he just started to lose the consciousness in time and he got confused with where and when he "is" after lots of time travel.
- How does this explain the memory loss Daniel clearly experienced (and subsequently commented on) with the deck of cards in "Eggtown"?
- Probably Daniel does not have memory problem, he just started to lose the consciousness in time and he got confused with where and when he "is" after lots of time travel.
- Charlotte doesn't remember her mother's maiden name because the time they skipped to little Charlotte wouldn't have know that information. She was too young to concern herself with that. So although she remembers what is going on right now, she is reverting to some memories or lack of memories of that time period.
- Charlotte's memory problem, and her nosebleeds, are due to alterations in the past caused by the time-shifting Losties. Charlotte alluded to having been born on the Island in the Season 4 finale. As the characters still on the Island time-shift closer to a point when Charlotte was a child there, they grow closer to potentially altering her past. She's the only one in the group suffering these symptoms as she's the only one present on the Island in the distant past. This may fly in the face of what Daniel claims is possible, but her nosebleeds begin after he explains to Sawyer that they can't change the past. When he checks his notebook for clues to her problem, he looks uncharacteristically worried.
- Considering Daniel stays behind to contact Desmond, it seems that Daniel doesn't his notebook to look for 'clues to her problem', but rather to reaffirm that "If anything goes wrong, Desmond Hume will be my constant."
- Charlotte's mother is Alex, who was not supposed to die, but Widmore broke the "rules" (that you cannot change the past or future). Had Alex survived, Ben would've sent her to another place/time to save her from the fate of pregnant women on the island. Because she died, Charlotte's memory of her is fading, and Charlotte is fading out of existence as well.
- If Alex was her mother, then it would seem that she would have vanished from existence at the moment Alex died (assuming she wasn't supposed to). It seems odd that she only starts feeling the effects after the time skipping starts. It could be though that her mother dies during one of the skips back in time, but instead of vanishing immediately, she deteriorates in time with each skip. It would also explain why she couldn't remember her mother's maiden name...she no longer had a mother.
Who's able to affect the past and who isn't?
- Based on what Daniel Faraday claims, no one change the past no matter how hard one tries. And one can not meet someone if they have not met yet. Faraday is able to meet with Desmond and influence him because they had already met earlier in 1996 at Oxford.
- I think your missing the point, the statement that no one can meet someone if they have not already met is not meant to be taken in that sense, it means that if that meeting never happened in the first place it cant happen when you time travel back. what your suggesting is that Sawyer, Juliet, jin and Miles who meet all the Dharma people when they travelled back in time, what had they already met them before, No they always had met them in 1974.
- While the past can be influenced, it will not change the ultimate flow of events. Ms. Hawking indicates that the "universe...has a way of course correcting". Just as Desmond is not able to stop Charlie from dying, no one can ultimately change the course of the universe, even if they are able to affect individual events - like the soldiers interacting with Sawyer and Juliet, it changed an individual event, but not the course of the universe.
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